best reasonably priced nutrients?

MikeGanja

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Yara kristalon, powerfull, cheap, effective, long lasting, usefull in coco, soil, very good result outdoors and indoors. Not suitable in hydro, cause very problems don't try.
Kristalon series from Yara is very cheap so I asked the retailer if I can use it in my hydro grow. They told me it was perfect for hydro so I'm surprised to hear that. I did however told them that i grow tomatoes. :) What kind of problems can I expect if I use the product in hydro?

http://yara.co.uk/crop-nutrition/products/yara-fertigation/
 
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Olive Drab Green

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Good shit. Look into the Nature's Care line, if you grow organic, and at least try an experiment with it. I think there's something to it. Not the regular MG stuff, the Nature's Care organic line in the lime green bags.
 
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since1991

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Kristalon can very much "work" in "hydro". Iam not sure if its a complete diet containing all the elements...it might need a few other things....not sure. If its works in a hydroponic medium ( very large percentage of growers are using a hydroponic medium) like coco coir or peat based soilless mixes like Sunshine or Promix. These are all technically hydroponic mediums....not matter how similar to true soil they may look like.
 

Chunky Stool

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Man i told you not to argue piss with me...and what do you do? Your obviosly a complete moron, noob, shitty grower, but id guess all three. Urea is a main component in lots of fertilizers but its processed. Its not in the form of your piss dumb ass. Its dehydrated if its still in its natural form in plant food. People dont piss on their plants for a reason. Its gross. Its fucking nasty. I mean in the appocolypse do whatever the fuck you want to stay alive, but id kick someones ass if i smoked their piss fertilized weed. Its an unstable blend of potentially harmful and un measured fertilizer. And did i mention its disgusting? Dumb ass.

And as for calcium, and magnesium...i did say cal mag and not just calcium. Unless hes running a well over a calmag deposit hes going to need to supplement. Both calcium and mag are almost macro nute status and 98% of guys i know run it, the others ammend, kinda like how you run your mouth. Pppffff, calcium levels in water, everyone i know runs 100-200 ppm cal mag and even if your base ppm from the tap is 200....how much of that is calcium? Are you gonna go to a lab and pay to get it tested? Nope, just add calmag, and no piss. I bet your grow room of two plants smells real good after you piss in the plants huh? Nasty.
Urine is one of the few things in our bodies that is sterile.
 
Kristalon series from Yara is very cheap so I asked the retailer if I can use it in my hydro grow. They told me it was perfect for hydro so I'm surprised to hear that. I did however told them that i grow tomatoes. :) What kind of problems can I expect if I use the product in hydro?

http://yara.co.uk/crop-nutrition/products/yara-fertigation/
Not realy sure, friend of main have told me: "The plants has started good" , 2 weeks later :"The plants were down and death" . Its possible his own mistakes(he is very experienced) , but what he told me was: "Never use it in hydro". Other way Yara Kristalon is one of my top ferts. I use Yellow and Brown bags at my own formula for flowering. I have complete schedule for coco and soil. Includes Yellow, Brown and Blue + epsom(?)salt MgSO4(?), I can give it to you.
Your retailer will ALWYS said :It's perfect buy it, imo.
 

since1991

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Sorry about the posts on the politic side of the industry....it was way off topic of the thread. Iam really stoned and my mind can get off on tangents sometimes. Carry on my fellow growers.....carry on.
 

since1991

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Is there calcium in the Yara Kristalon bags? To be honest i just recently heard of Kristalon. I left thier website. It looks interesting. If anyone knows how to make a complete fertilizer....they would. Iam kinda interested in giving this line a shot.
 

MikeGanja

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Not realy sure, friend of main have told me: "The plants has started good" , 2 weeks later :"The plants were down and death" . Its possible his own mistakes(he is very experienced) , but what he told me was: "Never use it in hydro". Other way Yara Kristalon is one of my top ferts. I use Yellow and Brown bags at my own formula for flowering. I have complete schedule for coco and soil. Includes Yellow, Brown and Blue + epsom(?)salt MgSO4(?), I can give it to you.
Your retailer will ALWYS said :It's perfect buy it, imo.
I would appreciate that, please post your feeding schedule.
 
There is: in grams per 10litre of water!!!!!
Yellow-Brown-Blue
1 week of vege. 1+ 0.8 + 1.6
2 week of vege. 1.9 +1.5 +3.2
3 week of vege. 2.5+ 2 +4.2
Flipping to 12/12 2.64 + 2.2+ 5.1
Start of intense grow 2.64+ 2.2+ 5.1
First pistyls 2.8 +2.7 +5.6
Start of flowering. 3.5+ 2+ 5.6
Climax of flowering. 3.7 +2+ 5
Flowering. 3.6 +3.7+ 2.1
Peak of flowering 4.4+ 5.5+ 0.1
Ripening 6.1 +1.3 +6.8
Once a week spraying Mg or Epsom Salt!!!!!!!!!!
 

MikeGanja

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Is there calcium in the Yara Kristalon bags? To be honest i just recently heard of Kristalon. I left thier website. It looks interesting. If anyone knows how to make a complete fertilizer....they would. Iam kinda interested in giving this line a shot.
I can't find calcium in the data sheet but Yara sells Ca as a separate product.
There is: in grams per 10litre of water!!!!!
Yellow-Brown-Blue
1 week of vege. 1+ 0.8 + 1.6
2 week of vege. 1.9 +1.5 +3.2
3 week of vege. 2.5+ 2 +4.2
Flipping to 12/12 2.64 + 2.2+ 5.1
Start of intense grow 2.64+ 2.2+ 5.1
First pistyls 2.8 +2.7 +5.6
Start of flowering. 3.5+ 2+ 5.6
Climax of flowering. 3.7 +2+ 5
Flowering. 3.6 +3.7+ 2.1
Peak of flowering 4.4+ 5.5+ 0.1
Ripening 6.1 +1.3 +6.8
Once a week spraying Mg or Epsom Salt!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks!
 
This schedule should NOT be used by newbies!!! Using kristalon is not neccessary to use calcium, only in defficient. Using calcium causes stretch and more stemps and fybers, it's so wrong to use it in soil, something you(Westers) use pointless and affect in yield.
 

lonzo212

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There all relatively cheap until your setup and system gets bigger. The cheapest bottle bases your going to find are Botanicare CNS17 Ionic Grow and Bloom and Dynagro. The cheapest after that is going to be your powders. Maxi and Jack Peters is the cheapest short of mixing your own salts from big bags from actual Ag companies. Which is what all these other brands do really. Except they buy huge amounts by the pallet and truckloads full and get the salts for extremely cheap. The markup on ,for example, General Hydroponics products is extremely obscene. Look into the mark up on there pH adjusters if you really wanna be nauseated. Its like 40000% or some shit.
sir all I use is floranova grow/bloom gh.....your saying better off with dyna grow??
 

since1991

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sir all I use is floranova grow/bloom gh.....your saying better off with dyna grow??
Iam saying if you use any of the popular hydroponic hobby shop brands your results will be similar or exactly the same if you ise them correctly with the aid of a quality digital EC AND pH meter.That being the case...use the most cost efficient that is the easiest and most comortable for you in your particular system and methods. Once your system starts to become one of the larger setups..filling mutiple reservoirs....feeding alot of plants...those expensive brands....all of them start to become a significant cost factor. It would then be wise to start to look towards mixing up your own salt fertilizer blends and saving hundreds if not thousands of dollars in plant food costs.
 
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lonzo212

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Iam saying if you use any of the popular hydroponic hobby shop brands your results will be similar or exactly the same if you ise them correctly with the aid of a quality digital EC AND pH meter.That being the case...use the most cost efficient that is the easiest and most comortable for you in your particular system and methods. Once your system starts to become one of the larger setups..filling mutiple reservoirs....feeding alot of plants...those expensive brands....all of them start to become a significant cost factor. It would then be wise to start to look towards mixing up your own salt fertilizer blends and saving hundreds if not thousands of dollars in plant food costs.
k....have small set up...as far as one part nutes,,easy....im thinkin gh flora better quality nute then say dyna,ff
 

Alienwidow

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Urine is one of the few things in our bodies that is sterile.
Ya i know. Have you ever expirienced how bad it starts to smell if left for a couple days? And can you honestly say that you never splash any nutrient solution on your plants? Piss is gross. Period. If anyone told me i just smoked piss weed id punch them in the face. Hard. If its composted its different because its broken down and not totally foul, but you can keep your piss on your weed and ill use canna products i bought with dank, non pee weed money ;) theres one piss freak in every crowd of growers and they love to tell you about how they save their own pee. Id laugh so hard if you pee lovers got busted and they found jugs of pee. That would probably get you an extra year, and a trip in for a psychiatric evaluation. Pee on obewan.
 
Ya i know. Have you ever expirienced how bad it starts to smell if left for a couple days? And can you honestly say that you never splash any nutrient solution on your plants? Piss is gross. Period. If anyone told me i just smoked piss weed id punch them in the face. Hard. If its composted its different because its broken down and not totally foul, but you can keep your piss on your weed and ill use canna products i bought with dank, non pee weed money ;) theres one piss freak in every crowd of growers and they love to tell you about how they save their own pee. Id laugh so hard if you pee lovers got busted and they found jugs of pee. That would probably get you an extra year, and a trip in for a psychiatric evaluation. Pee on obewan.
Hahah so you will smoke weed from sheep's and horse's shit, but nit from piss hahah. I've used piss for vegetation nutrien and i can tell you it's good and much better than nasty chemicals in most of the products. Human idiotism has no limits
 
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