rastadred22
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hey riddle i cant find the post i looked bac for a while and couldnt find u kno what page?
Balls to the Wall grow, Riddleme Gets Serious
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riddleme
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No sorry, I don't remember?
But I hope they get this ad thing fixed sucks having it in the first post on every page instead of up top
and I would have posted a pic but my puter crashed so I hooked up another one to surf and this one does not have the graphics program to resize the pics (and take out the endif stuff)
rastadred22
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ight man no problem, but could u drop me a few words of advice?
riddleme
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rastadred22
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yea but my trees arent outside my problem would b the power goin out
riddleme
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they can be ok for up to 3 days in the dark, not anything I would do on purpose but I know they can, and you said no generator so I really don't have any other ideas???
rastadred22
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could u possibly stress it out to much? some say they hermie with too much stress
riddleme
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yeah, I don't buy that one much, I stressed my last grow to the limit and gave her light leaks and she did not hermie, IMO the whole hermie thing is folks not wantin to blame themselves or bad genetics
legalizeitcanada
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hey riddle whada ya mean by the "endif stuff"?
Comando
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I can show you Pics of Clones that were all girlies and Now i have seeds on them.... One (or both) hermied and polinated themselves...Im not lying i will take pics to prove it...and to clarify...go to clones...both were girls....both started flowering...never ever have been in contact with males....plants underwent some medium sized stress...end of grow and I have a handfull of seeds???? pretty sure my girls hermied... What causes that????
riddleme
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Cellphones for sure and most of the newer digital cameras record the GPS cords of where the pic was taken, and embed it in the pic file data, some of em include the camera serial # as well (why I never register my electronics
I use a program called graphics workshop to crop and resize as it replaces the endif info with an ad proclaming pic was processed using graphics workshop, (my GW program is also unregistered)
riddleme
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I am not saying hermies don't happen, what I am saying is that stress is not the primary cause, I wrote a ditty explaining hermies, it's in my nuggets, plus most folks don't consider that polen can travel miles blowing in the wind or on the legs of little insects
stonesour
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I agree but stress does up the chances dont they? I know a chick that grows and we get the same seeds from the same outlet. Her grow is very unorganized and unkept to say the least and her plants herm 70% of the time where as mine hardly ever do. Her tent has light leaks, she tops, LST, supercrops, and beats those plants up all the time.
riddleme
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I would say more enviromental stress over training, if the plant thinks it's dying it will try to save itself, which is what natural hermieing is
DaveCoulier
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Well, I thought Id share my experience with hermies. On my latest crop, I had a clone of a seedplant go hermie around 35 days into flower, yet the seedplant mother never did hermie and went 45 days. The clone had accidentally been placed under 12/12 when cut(timer screwup). I realized this clone had been under it for about 3 weeks, and was beginning to flower. So I switched it back to veg, and thought I caught it in time, but it continued to flower for 3 more weeks or so. Maybe 4, but then a that time it started to reveg, and had the single bladed leaves everywhere. I was running out of room in the tent, and had to place it into the flower tent. To flower again, while it is currently revegging. Needless to say the plant was switched back and forth between flowering and veg alot.
When she finally kicked into flower again, she retained single bladed leaves on throughout. Then she hermied at day 35 or so.
I think that is probably one level of stress that could cause a plant to go hermie.
Btw, Im really high, so I hope all that made sense.
When she finally kicked into flower again, she retained single bladed leaves on throughout. Then she hermied at day 35 or so.
I think that is probably one level of stress that could cause a plant to go hermie.
Btw, Im really high, so I hope all that made sense.
Rocky Mountain High
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I think its genetics in combination with environmental stress. Just like some plants are prone to PM or other problems. I think its the '3 strikes rule'.
1st we force flower them. Not natural, high stress
#2 we don't give them any pollen, thats what the pistils are searching for, higher stress can't complete life cycle
Add to that a problem with light cycle, drying out or other harsh conditions and if the plant has it in there genetically, you will bring it out. Like RM3 said, it's trying to survive, so it self pollinates, due to the stress of...no pollen. I think all plants have it in them, just easier to get to trigger with some strains than others. I also think if you try to take a plant to long in flowering, maybe to get all amber trichs or something, it may become inevitable, due to the survival factor.
Just my .02
1st we force flower them. Not natural, high stress
#2 we don't give them any pollen, thats what the pistils are searching for, higher stress can't complete life cycle
Add to that a problem with light cycle, drying out or other harsh conditions and if the plant has it in there genetically, you will bring it out. Like RM3 said, it's trying to survive, so it self pollinates, due to the stress of...no pollen. I think all plants have it in them, just easier to get to trigger with some strains than others. I also think if you try to take a plant to long in flowering, maybe to get all amber trichs or something, it may become inevitable, due to the survival factor.
Just my .02
gumball
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i read a thread where a guy did just that dave, he put it in flower until it flowered, then every night before the lights went out he pulled it out and let it sit under light for an hour, then dark, then light. he did that for the plants entire flower cycle, to force it to seed. he called them S1 (or femmed) seeds, but the quick search i did was unclear of this as a legitimate process for creating fem seeds. it is still interesting enough if one wanted to save a strain that was stable. they could perform this and possibly get some seeds.
Magnificient
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There's a digital ballast made specificially for cmh bulbs. All the older magnetic ballasts will work if they're for 400 watt hps.