Balls to the Wall grow, Riddleme Gets Serious

riddleme said:

Little lesson on proper planing, I had a friend that I gifted some beans to cause they were gifted to me. He already had things growing in his garden but decided he had room for one more and put 3 beans down to sex and get a female.

they all ended up being females and he only had room for one, so he calls me up and says do you know of a good home for some foster children? I said of course I do

so these girls are now going to 2 different homes, not only is it important to properly plan your garden but it is also good to expand your circle of grower friends as gift such as this can be shared

enjoy the pics I took while they were visiting

PS took the leaf pic to show the purples strain is a Big Bud crossed with a Purple Erkle (F1 cross)

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Now that's what I call paying it forward. Right on brother and congratulation to the recipients. I hope they will keep us updated at the purple lovefest thread?

Peace

riddleme said:

While the guest were here thought I'd take some fun pics, you saw in the last post how bushy these bitches are, they are both 17 inches tall.

I took these pics from the edge of the pot to get a plants eye view at the CMH light, wanted to see it thru the plants eyes so to speak, I thought they came out pretty cool

Enjoy

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Ya, the CMH has a way of almost making plants look iridescent. Has you noticed the different colors depending on your view point?

hmm, i am definitely getting a CMH to veg with. but riddle, if i get the place im wanting that i found in CO, im going to be doing a grow with super soil, and then reg soil. i may make it rain in the reg soil and just use water, as subcool suggest ( with a little flowering enhancers in flower). just to see whose method or technique results in fastest growth and bud weight. ill be having 5-6 different strains going, 2 of which being TGA strains, 3 plants of each, one each in a different medium.

love the shots from below wouldnt be sweet to walk through a forest of bud lol

awesome pics, If you hadn't said it was under the light I would have thought that you took them outside!

Ok, I got these bitches and was gettin ready to deliver them, when I noticed some tiny brown spots on a few leaves, get out the trusty loupe and low and behold I see spider mites.

So I call the benefactor and said cancel the trip and I called the gifter and told him to check his garden, then off to the store for a remedy, since I have never had em before I had to do a bit of research, every one says neem oil, I decided against it remembering that fellow grower EdGreyFox had em in one of his grows and the neem oil did not get rid of em.

I decided on two things, one was for the gifted plants (which actually had the critters) called Doctor Doom Spider Mite Knock Out, description here,
http://www.indoorgarden.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=23&products_id=704415

the other was for my plants now exposed,though looking closely at each leaf revealed no sign of em, this one called Veggie Pharm, description here,
http://pharmsolutions.com/veggie_pharm.html
it is supposed to be an organic preventative, but has notes saying not for indoor use with no explanation as to why? I used it anyway, light misting

and we shall see what happens, will keep it updated

side note, I also gave the babies their first dose of the Dynagro Protk, I had seen where a few folks using it said that a) the ph was like 10 but when I mixed it as directed (1/2 teaspoon to a gallon of water) with brita filtered water it did not raise the ph at all and b) that when mixed with nutes it caused precipitates in the mixture, I did not do this so have no comment, but will try it later to check it out and report back once I do

Final word is I have to repair/fix the problem before I can gift these plants and make sure my garden is not infected

only been a few hours since I sprayed them, took a look at several infected leaves and can not find one living mite, seems the Knock Out killed them all pretty fast now just wait and see what happens with the eggs?

Still no signs of em on my plants and as yet no harm at all from the Veggie Pharm misting

thats a bummer about the mites, but it is good you caught them early and while the plants are still small.. Good luck.

With the CMH are you setting the light height from the top of the plants for a specific number of foot candle? If so, what is the number? I seem to remember you mentioning 5000-7200. Thanks

cindergrow said:

With the CMH are you setting the light height from the top of the plants for a specific number of foot candle? If so, what is the number? I seem to remember you mentioning 5000-7200. Thanks

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I adjusted the light to hit the top of the homer buckets with 7000, the plants (sitting on the upsidedown buckets) canopy is about 10 inches above that and the canopy is getting 9000 lumens

So as they grow will you try to maintain this 9000 number. Sorry for what is probably a very Noob question, but this is my first go around and I have come to trust your advise.kiss-ass

cindergrow said:

So as they grow will you try to maintain this 9000 number. Sorry for what is probably a very Noob question, but this is my first go around and I have come to trust your advise.kiss-ass

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as stated earlier, gonna let grow into it

hey, about the spider mites, i read a bunch of what sounded like good advice some folks were giving in this thread. if you want to thumb through, i remember a lot of discussion in the 60-70 page range, a lot of BS'ing too, but you know...

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/327580-my-growitup-greenhouse-grow-2010-a-63.html

he has a massive medical grow in cali, and got a pretty bad infection. pulled through it well though. so far...

hope you get them clean, i have read so many bad things about them boogers

gumball said:

hey, about the spider mites, i read a bunch of what sounded like good advice some folks were giving in this thread. if you want to thumb through, i remember a lot of discussion in the 60-70 page range, a lot of BS'ing too, but you know...

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/327580-my-growitup-greenhouse-grow-2010-a-63.html

he has a massive medical grow in cali, and got a pretty bad infection. pulled through it well though. so far...

hope you get them clean, i have read so many bad things about them boogers

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well so far so good can't find any that are alive, so just gonna keep watchin em and see what happens?

i understand, just passing along some info. from what i have read, they are really hard to get rid of, but i am not sure how many is hard to get rid of.

gumball said:

i understand, just passing along some info. from what i have read, they are really hard to get rid of, but i am not sure how many is hard to get rid of.

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appears I caught them early, and this doctor doom seems to kill them pretty fast, plus I had treated my whole basement with spectrcide before building the grow area. don't know for sure yet (of course) but it is looking like they will be ok, but thanks for the link!

riddleme said:

well so far so good can't find any that are alive, so just gonna keep watchin em and see what happens?

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Thats the key with mites. Nip it in the bud as Barney would say.

cowboylogic said:

Thats the key with mites. Nip it in the bud as Barney would say.

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Yeppers, looking this morning I can not even find any eggs, so Doctor Doom Spider Mite Knock Out gets 2 thumbs up

on the other hand the Veggie Pharm natural organic oils get a caution warning as I am seeing new growth tips are burned on all 4, because it is the same on all 4 makes me pretty sure it was the spray, delicate new growth and UV that has caused the damage, which is minor and the plants seem to be working past it so I'm not overly concerned, but will advise if you use this stuff don't do it with the lights on. And I think the not for indoor use could be the strong smell as my whole house smelled like pepermint last night

I love Doktor Doom foggers and spray. Start with a fog. Then every 3 days a light spray across the canopy with Knockout just before lights out. In 10 days or so. Mites gone.

this is wha ti use on vegging plants-

1/4 cup Baking Soda
1/2 cup Apple Cider vinegar
1 Tablespoon Lemon Juice
2 drops dish detergent
1/4 Teaspoon Epsom Salts

Take a cup of very hot water and dissolve the epsom salts,take rest of ingredients and place in a clean 2 liter bottle and let work out. Add epsom solution. Add water to fill to 48ozs(3/4 full).Shake well.

TO USE: Cover soil/medium with plastic,with lights off mist plant all over,especially under leaves,
Wait 20 mins,then spritz off with clean fresh water shaking as much water off plant as you can.
The fresh water spritz rinse will remove the solution along with the dissolved remains of the mites and their eggs.

i also use this to treat walls walkways and such. for tender or stressed plants i mix to one gallon instead of full strength.
don't use this on flowering plants! it does need to be rinsed somewhat.