AP: Report: Director of National Intelligence reports to Congress about Russia boosting Trump in upcoming election. And promptly gets fired.

mysunnyboy

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He's fired, post election, provided Donald can get anybody to do it, many of the rats will jump ship if Donald loses and he might have a near empty white house. I figure Fauci is gonna be fired too, Trump just has to get someone to do it or perhaps he will just tweet it out.
He won’t win, moot point.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump can't fire Fauci from what I heard. Let me know if I am incorrect.

I think the bigger problem with the FBI is they might pull Trump's ability to have a 'acting' FBI guy to do anything if Trump did that.
If Joe wins on election day Donald will begin to lose control of the FBI, after Dec 14th and Joe become president elect, Wray will no longer work for a criminal, he will be investigating one, or putting the ribbon on a parcel of indictments.

I think Donald is gonna do a lot of firing after the election if he loses, provided he can find the slime balls to do it, in some cases it might be risky, in all cases it will be expensive in terms of future legal fees for congressional and other investigations.
 

hanimmal

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If Joe wins on election day Donald will begin to lose control of the FBI, after Dec 14th and Joe become president elect, Wray will no longer work for a criminal, he will be investigating one, or putting the ribbon on a parcel of indictments.

I think Donald is gonna do a lot of firing after the election if he loses, provided he can find the slime balls to do it, in some cases it might be risky, in all cases it will be expensive in terms of future legal fees for congressional and other investigations.
We will see.

I dont imagine Trump rolling up his sleeves and waddling down to the FBI building to investigate his political enemies himself, is going to produce any results.

At worst I see Trump exposing all the nuts that have infiltrated all levels of our government over the last handful of decades as they trigger.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Donald is pushing everybody he has power over to the absolute limit, he wants it all. Trump wants Barr to arrest, not just indict Biden, Harris, Obama and Clinton, he is freaking out on him as much as he can, but he depends too much on Barr and he can't be replaced at this point, no greater asshole can be found. It gives you an idea of the iron whim that HHS is enduring, shit is running down hill from Azar's mouth, like from DNI Radcliffe's and everybody else Trump can use to cheat the election. Donald is issuing naked threats to fire the FBI director after the election and will fire Fauci and others if he can. The republicans in the senate might have a different attitude if they get trounced along with Trump, lame ducks might be angry birds.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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We will see.

I dont imagine Trump rolling up his sleeves and waddling down to the FBI building to investigate his political enemies himself, is going to produce any results.

At worst I see Trump exposing all the nuts that have infiltrated all levels of our government over the last handful of decades as they trigger.
He will definitely take a lot with him when he goes down, let's hope a lot of republican senators are among them. There are three numbers in the combination lock to America's future, one is solved and if the other two click into place, the door to change and reform will be wide open. Many important reforms have super majority support and should be easy and painless, low hanging fruit. American's don't realize how quickly change can happen after decades of compromise, over two hundred bills on Mitch's desk will be reworked, the compromises removed and rolled into one or two bills, then resubmitted to the senate. Get the republicans out of the way and the country can move forward, they hurt more than they help, time to be replaced and go extinct like the whigs.
 

hanimmal

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He will definitely take a lot with him when he goes down, let's hope a lot of republican senators are among them. There are three numbers in the combination lock to America's future, one is solved and if the other two click into place, the door to change and reform will be wide open. Many important reforms have super majority support and should be easy and painless, low hanging fruit. American's don't realize how quickly change can happen after decades of compromise, over two hundred bills on Mitch's desk will be reworked, the compromises removed and rolled into one or two bills, then resubmitted to the senate. Get the republicans out of the way and the country can move forward, they hurt more than they help, time to be replaced and go extinct like the whigs.
I think it will all still be bi-partisan though, so not sure if you mean 'compromise removed' as 1. not working with the Republicans (because it would) or 2. compromise like loopholes so corrupted politicians keep a way in the laws to escape their illegal acts.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I think it will all still be bi-partisan though, so not sure if you mean 'compromise removed' as 1. not working with the Republicans (because it would) or 2. compromise like loopholes so corrupted politicians keep a way in the laws to escape their illegal acts.
Mainly election reform, security and redistricting on a state level, provided the democrats win on the state level too. Joe and the democrats would be wise to appoint a former republican as independent special counsel to investigate Trump, appoint several independent counsels, there are many former republicans who would be quite suitable for the jobs. The main thing is to enact reforms that are popular and don't ruffle too many feathers unnecessarily, there will be plenty of necessary feathers to pluck. Try minimize the back lash in 2022 and 2024, enacting police reform shouldn't generate too much back lash and neither should election reform.

Dealing with Fox will simply be a matter of applying existing regulation and law, they are a proven menace to the nation and cost lives by knowingly spreading public health disinformation. No network is allowed to be the voice of a political party, a propaganda machine, that was never the intent of the law. No network should be allowed to create an alternate reality where the delusional can be fostered, supported and directed. Is Fox gonna be the Qnon network next year because there's a buck to be made? As for regulating face book, that isn't likely to generate much backlash, but there will a lot a whining from Zuckerboy.
 

hanimmal

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MSNBC- ODNI won't work with Biden Transition until GSA declares winner.

GSA Wont sign off until the election is certified I think it was.

And Trump is trying to get Pennsylvania results to get tied up in court and Arizona and Georgia are going to be tight and are not mathematically certain that they might not end up Trump's in a recount. Delaying things further.

A month from now (or so, I am just thinking about the timeline), Congress (in favor of Republican states) get to decide who wins the election if no clear winner.

I really hope Georgia bails us out and puts the final nail in the coffin of the traitors in the Republican party.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-transition-ascertainment-238c8bd1733abb9d5419678e427ea4de
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The course of President-elect Joe Biden’s transition to power is dependent in part on an obscure declaration called “ascertainment.”

Some details on that process:

WHAT IS ASCERTAINMENT?

The formal presidential transition doesn’t begin until the administrator of the federal General Services Administration ascertains the “apparent successful candidate” in the general election. Neither the Presidential Transition Act nor federal regulations specify how that determination should be made. That decision green lights the entire federal government’s moves toward preparing for a handover of power.

WHY HASN’T IT HAPPENED YET?

The agency has not said why the decision to recognize Joe Biden as the president-elect has not been made. A GSA spokesperson said in a statement Monday: “An ascertainment has not yet been made. GSA and its Administrator will continue to abide by, and fulfill, all requirements under the law and adhere to prior precedent established by the Clinton Administration in 2000.”

GSA is an executive branch agency. Its administrator, Emily Murphy, is a Trump appointee, but the ascertainment decision is supposed to be apolitical. The White House did not say whether there have been conversations on the matter between officials there and at GSA.

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WHAT’S AT STAKE?

The determination clears the way for millions of federal dollars to flow to Biden’s transition team and opens the doors of the federal government to hundreds of Biden staffers, so they can begin assessing agency operations ahead of Inauguration Day on Jan. 20. A delay in recognizing Biden as the next president could slow federal resources to assist the Biden-Harris team in filling about 4,000 political appointments across the government — including critical national security and health postings.

WHY DOES IT MATTER?

Slowing the pace of the transition could hamstring a new administration right out of the gate. The Trump administration, experts say, never fully recovered from the slow pace of hiring from its mismanaged 2016 transition after Trump tossed aside carefully prepared plans the day after his victory.

Full Coverage: Election 2020
HAS THIS DELAY EVER HAPPENED BEFORE?

In 2000, the GSA determination was delayed until after the Florida recount fight was settled on Dec. 13. At the time, the administrator relied on an assessment from one of the drafters of the 1963 Presidential Transition Act that “in a close contest, the Administrator simply would not make the decision.”

That 2000 recount involved just a few hundred votes in one state that would have determined which candidate reached 270 electoral votes. Biden’s leads across Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan, which pushed him over the threshold to win the White House, are far more substantial — and greater than Trump’s leads in the same states in 2016.

The abbreviated transition process was identified by the 9/11 Commission Report as contributing to the nation’s unpreparedness for the crisis.
I look forward to Biden's lawsuit on the holdup if they don't allow his getting briefed by the intelligence community.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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MSNBC- ODNI won't work with Biden Transition until GSA declares winner.

GSA Wont sign off until the election is certified I think it was.

And Trump is trying to get Pennsylvania results to get tied up in court and Arizona and Georgia are going to be tight and are not mathematically certain that they might not end up Trump's in a recount. Delaying things further.

A month from now (or so, I am just thinking about the timeline), Congress (in favor of Republican states) get to decide who wins the election if no clear winner.

I really hope Georgia bails us out and puts the final nail in the coffin of the traitors in the Republican party.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-transition-ascertainment-238c8bd1733abb9d5419678e427ea4de
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I look forward to Biden's lawsuit on the holdup if they don't allow his getting briefed by the intelligence community.
Fortunately Joe was prepared for this and largely avoided the worst, which his team expected, apparently Joe has has his team more or less assembled for the past 3 months, they know where the light switches are too. Joe has assembled a massive volunteer army that will staff his administration with old experienced hands who have personal relationships of mutual respect with regular government people who will smooth the way, they have their home phone numbers I'm sure.

Make no mistake, Joe is gonna hit the ground not just running, but in a sprint and is jumping the starting gun, just wait until he is officially president elect on Dec 14th. Hundreds of thousands of American lives are at stake here and you have a normal president about to inherit the bankrupt graveyard that is Trump's America. Trump refuses to cooperate in the transition costing American lives by every day of delay, over a hundred thousand cases a day and over a thousand deaths a day soon to follow. To save hundreds of thousands of American lives, ask yourself, what wouldn't a normal president do? This is the combined total of many wars and a real and present danger to the nation and it's economy, what would you do with a mandate to save the nation from itself?
 

hanimmal

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Fortunately Joe was prepared for this and largely avoided the worst, which his team expected, apparently Joe has has his team more or less assembled for the past 3 months, they know where the light switches are too. Joe has assemble a massive volunteer army that will staff his administration with old experienced hands who have personal relationships of mutual respect with regular government people who will smooth the way, they have their home phone numbers I'm sure.

Make no mistake, Joe is gonna hit the ground not just running, but in a sprint and is jumping the starting gun, just wait until he is officially president elect on Dec 14th. Hundreds of thousands of American lives are at stake here and you have a normal president about to inherit the bankrupt graveyard that is Trump's America. Trump refuses to cooperate in the transition costing American lives by every day of delay, over a hundred thousand cases a day and over a thousand deaths a day soon to follow. To save hundreds of thousands of American lives, ask yourself, what wouldn't a normal president do? This is the combined total of many wars and a real and present danger to the nation and it's economy, what would you do with a mandate to save the nation from itself?
Im more worried about a cult leader with a vice grip on the executive office, because he is afraid of paying the consequences of his bad decisions, and all his followers who will end up hurting himself and others because they have been brainwashed by the Russian attack on our citizens.

Im sure Biden is doing everything (at least listening to and allowing other highly qualified people to do what they see needs to get done) to secure the election.

Im just worried that Barr and the Republicans kick about enough to stall long enough for the congress to steal it for Trump.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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MSNBC- ODNI won't work with Biden Transition until GSA declares winner.

GSA Wont sign off until the election is certified I think it was.

And Trump is trying to get Pennsylvania results to get tied up in court and Arizona and Georgia are going to be tight and are not mathematically certain that they might not end up Trump's in a recount. Delaying things further.

A month from now (or so, I am just thinking about the timeline), Congress (in favor of Republican states) get to decide who wins the election if no clear winner.

I really hope Georgia bails us out and puts the final nail in the coffin of the traitors in the Republican party.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-transition-ascertainment-238c8bd1733abb9d5419678e427ea4de
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I look forward to Biden's lawsuit on the holdup if they don't allow his getting briefed by the intelligence community.
One paradoxical thing about hardcore Trump supporters is they like authoritarian government by a heavy hand, so they won't mind Joe coming down hard on covid and public health, even the ones who think it's a hoax, like the feel of it. I figure about 80% of Americans will end up supporting Joe's covid initiative, more once Donald is gone. There is a vaccine on the way we only need to get through 6 months to begin to achieve significant herd immunity effects. Antibody therapies should be available soon and if the numbers can be knocked back, they will help with mortality a lot.

Joe will show America what Trump couldn't, responsible government and the power of the federal government to meet serious challenges and prevail with science driven policies and massive resources that are intelligently managed.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Im more worried about a cult leader with a vice grip on the executive office, because he is afraid of paying the consequences of his bad decisions, and all his followers who will end up hurting himself and others because they have been brainwashed by the Russian attack on our citizens.

Im sure Biden is doing everything (at least listening to and allowing other highly qualified people to do what they see needs to get done) to secure the election.

Im just worried that Barr and the Republicans kick about enough to stall long enough for the congress to steal it for Trump.
Dec 14th is a hard deadline in this election, Mitch wants Georgia and they are just making noises to keep him quiet, perhaps even bullshitting him with promises they won't keep. Donald is a bomb that will blow up the republican party before Georgia and that's where Mitch's total priority is right now. Throw Donald a bone to keep him from barking, if Nancy was to impeach Trump in the next week or two it would force the issue. I'm sure Nancy has Georgia on her mind too and a way will be found to open a rift between a verdictive Donald and Mitch before Georgia.
 
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