Advanced Stealth Hydro Bubbeponics Thread

400Whps

Active Member
So your saying there is still a chance...

I moved the small fan on to the Kandy Kush, so there is a little more direct air flow over them. I will monitor them to make sure it doesn't harm them. Both plant are very droopy, but them are not drying out, the leafs still seem like them have chlorophyll in them. The root masses both look very wet, and not very stringy, not many hairs, and there doesn't seem to be any new root growth from the net pots, but the root mass in the tank seem to have a couple good looking strings ber plant.

The Skunk #1 is looking the best today, then I have seen, so I think that would tell me that the res is good, and should have necessary nutrients to support the other plants. This plant seems to be growing again.


Ph 6.0
Res temp 65.7
EC 1.758
i want to appoligize upfront for the lack of relavence with my post!
i just want to say hi bob,I cant beleive buckwheat saw you sucking sick for coke.thats fucked up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrAHrNs6v3U <-haha one of my favorite charcters youve played!tell stamos i say hey!
 

HomeGrownHairy

Well-Known Member
Well I feel like I was at the point of no return. The plants have not showed any signs of improvement. I felt like I need to do something because it has been almost a week since the last reservoir change. In that last week there was little to no water used by the plants.

Last night (took me the entire night) I did a reservoir flush with distilled water (5 gallons) and used Clearx (7 TBS) and Big Bloom (5 TBS), Ph adjusted the water to 6.0, I ran the system with the pump on for 1.5 hours.

I drained the flush water after I seen the EC stop rising.

I topped the reservoir with 6 gallons of distilled water, Ph adjusted adjusted to 6.0, I added 10 tsp of Grow Big (3-2-6), and 5 TBS of Big Bloom, which brought my EC to a 1.0.

Today, 15 hours later, I still see no improvement in the two plants that are really struggling. The Ph did go up over night from 6.0 to 6.8 so I brought it down this AM to 6.0.

The only changes that I have made besides the res changes to try to find improvement are:
-Brought the 400 MH up a few more inches to make sure it isn't heat or light bleaching, the light is about 20 inch's above the plants.
-Removed that white towel, thinking maybe there was a chemical in the towel or something crazy.
-A couple of days ago I put a timer on the lights to go from 24/7 to 18/6, thinking that maybe the plants would benefit from the decreased temps and increase humidity for a few hours a day.
-I lowered the feeding tubes in the net pots, because the plants look to me to be showing signs of over watering.
-I did a res flush with Clearx last night, refilled the res with a EC of 1.0.
-Stopped misting the plants, seems to not be helping, and the problem started when I did start misting.

So, this brings me to what I'm thinking:
-My EC is supposed to be 1.6-1.8 according to the Fox Farm feeding schedule. JonnyB thinks that I'm underfeeding to start, I did my res change at 1.0 so this would be an extremely weak EC, am I correct about this? My thought is that the plants should start to show some signs of recovery, and I wanted to make sure that this problem wasn't from a over nute.

-Could I in fact be over watering? Maybe my air stones are not putting out as much air as they could? I'm tempted to remove the pump and feeder tubes. Thoughts?

-If I do not see any signs of improvement in the next few days, then the only other thing I can think to do is bring the EC up, to the feed schedule recommenced of 1.6-1.8.
I know you prolly did but I just gotta ask if you calibrated your meters recently?
 

Mr.Bob Saget

Active Member
I know you prolly did but I just gotta ask if you calibrated your meters recently?

I did, before i started. I will double check them. When in Ph mode if shows CAL, which the manual means its been calibrated. When I go to EC and PPM it doesn't show that anymore.

I'll calibrate them again.
 

MostlyCrazy

New Member
Yes Bob, I'm telling you there is still very much hope. Remember the plant want to live and now that things are set right it just may take some recovery time before she starts rollin' Patietance is a virtue in gardening. Now always a practitioner myself but it usually get back to that whether I am or not.

By the way, with my HM meter when it says Cal I usually have it in some test solution and that is when it is calibrating. It goes off after it's done.
 

Mr.Bob Saget

Active Member
Yes Bob, I'm telling you there is still very much hope. Remember the plant want to live and now that things are set right it just may take some recovery time before she starts rollin' Patietance is a virtue in gardening. Now always a practitioner myself but it usually get back to that whether I am or not.

By the way, with my HM meter when it says Cal I usually have it in some test solution and that is when it is calibrating. It goes off after it's done.

Hey just a reminder, did you order your 15 free seeds...I think it ends tonight..

And I dont know about my plants, they are starting to look worse... When do you consider them dead?
 

MostlyCrazy

New Member
Nope, I thought and I thought and I have such a seed backlog I's not even funny and I'm cloning what I have now. Maybe next Christmas but Oh do I like the skunks! This is becoming an exercise in self control and you're not helping! LOL!

It's dead when the roots are dead to me. Somewhat healthy roots and something green on top is all you need.
 

Mr.Bob Saget

Active Member
Nope, I thought and I thought and I have such a seed backlog I's not even funny and I'm cloning what I have now. Maybe next Christmas but Oh do I like the skunks! This is becoming an exercise in self control and you're not helping! LOL!

It's dead when the roots are dead to me. Somewhat healthy roots and something green on top is all you need.
Come on, there free man.
 

MostlyCrazy

New Member
Free with purchase and I have no idea what else to get. Maybe more LSD just in case my clones don't take (unlikely)but def want feminized. OK I'll look! You're not helping!
 

MostlyCrazy

New Member
All right, all right! I got the free seeds and 5 of the Seedsman Mazari which is just another seed companies version of my LSD for $50 shipped. I have a friend who wants to try to grow outside next year so maybe I'll give him some of my other stock that will do well outside (skunk and skunk crosses generally don't). Me likey the skunk for personal use and when you mix it with an afghani it has more power and that's a good thing. Thanks for the reminder. I'm sure at some point I will remember you fondly! LOL!
 

Mr.Bob Saget

Active Member
No improvement this AM, one plant looks like the wilting is turning to dry of the tips on the fan leafs.

Check again tonight.
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
So Jonny, let me be clear on this, are you saying Bob was not feeding them enough? Was that your point?
 

Mr.Bob Saget

Active Member
So Jonny, let me be clear on this, are you saying Bob was not feeding them enough? Was that your point?
Yes, that was his point.

Plants show no improvement, since the last check 14 hours ago. Root zones do not look that healthy, and I cant tell if there is any living roots. The plants are still green though, just very droopy and saggy.

EC is 1850
PH 6.0
Res Temp 68
 

JonnyBtreed

Well-Known Member
No. Not sure what to do. Debating to move forward with the feeding schedule and just keep the one plant (Skunk #1), and toss the Candy Kush.

The roots are showing improvement, but the plants haven't changed. They maybe look even droopier.

and you pulled out the feeder tubes right? Maybe a ventilation issue. You getting enough fresh air in there?
 

Mr.Bob Saget

Active Member
and you pulled out the feeder tubes right? Maybe a ventilation issue. You getting enough fresh air in there?

The only thing I can think of that is different from last time is that the RH is around 30%, in the summer is was around 50%.

I pulled the feeder tubes when they where showing signs of over watering, so over a week ago now.

I have a 4 inch vent system pulling air out of the tent, I will open a screen near the plants. The plant that is doing well is next to the open screen.Hmm..
 

JonnyBtreed

Well-Known Member
Yeah, you need to be bringing in fresh air as well. And try to find a way to get your RH up a little bit. Wet towels, bowls of water, etc.
 

Mr.Bob Saget

Active Member
Yeah, you need to be bringing in fresh air as well. And try to find a way to get your RH up a little bit. Wet towels, bowls of water, etc.
The RH goes up for the 6 hours of dark, but the light really brings it down. I have a big bowl of water in there.

I opened a window on the other side of the tent. If that fixes the problem I would be surprised.

Res temp has been around 63-67, cant be much better.

EC is still 1.8-1.9
 

JonnyBtreed

Well-Known Member
yeah, other than that, I wouldn't even really know what to suggest after this point. You seemed to of corrected every issue so far. And you seem to have control over everything. Just keep going, see if things turn around for you. If not, your perfectly set up for your next attempt and you got your training session down..... good luck buddy
 
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