Abolish private healthcare insurance

DIY-HP-LED said:

I'm 65 and retired at 57, but could have went at 55 if I had wanted to, I've worked since I was 16 years old and spent many school nights and week ends on the 4-12 shift. I also served my country for 2 years in the reserve forces at that time as well. Over the course my working career in Moncton NB and Winnipeg I ran a couple of small businesses on the side.

While in Winnipeg I took up a serious Buddhist meditation practice and my personal philosophy is to improve the world, do so one heart and mind at a time, start with yourself first though.

I vote liberal, if I wanted to do that I'd vote NDP, small business is not the problem, political corruption is, my favorite economist is Adam Smith you should read him and not just the right wing filtered bullshit they write about him.

The thread started with a picture of a very painful hand injury, a nail in his finger and how much it cost to have a corrupt private healthcare system treat it. My first post on the thread was an expression of concern and compassion, yours was to call him an idiot. Personal flaws again, lack of empathy yet again, hyper sensitivity to criticism and an inability to move on.

The thread title is: abolish-private-healthcare-insurance and I think it's a great idea for America. BTW 30% of Canadian health care is already provided by private insurance, I have it myself as part of my retirement package.

Take up a practice to some gain emotional strength and psychological flexibility.

There is no "moderator here, there is an ADMIN who has been here for many years and has seen it all, he follows a set rules and comments from time to time like any other member. Like I said before, Buck has done a good job of stripping away the veneer of civility to reveal the inner person. I personally know several people who lived in Alberta who could be joined at the hip with you ideologically. The big thing a few years ago was climate change denial and it still is in Alberta, but most of them have realized that ship has sailed.

Time to go have a meditation sit and put this shit in the past and you should as well, we don't agree on much.
Good night Toad

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MrToad69 said:

DIY
You said...

******"If the rich want to leave (Canada), there should be a very steep exit tax with no chance to return"*****

I would like people on this board to honestly to either agree or disagree with that statement? (Anyone care to comment, Im particularly interested in opinions from our good neighbours to the South?)

You're seriously a borderline communist!!! To reiterate...You want people, who have worked all their lives and paid taxes on all those saving already...to pay an exit tax to move away just because they want to live elsewhere...

You talk of greed..but it's apparent that its you who are greedy...Most people work well into their 60's and 70's and you punched out substantially sooner...yet expect the social system to support you! You don't care about the unity of Canada, your comcerned about how the hell are you gonna pay for your healthcare? You have no favourable feelings towards Albertan's..so why stick together?

You're on the other side of the equation... you are the one drawing rather than contributing to the social programs in Canada...So it pretty easy to say..yah..be cool..All good! Chill man! If those social programs relied on money from you...opinions would change

You sit there, meditate and point fingers trying to understand why you think people are upset..and you honestly haven't the foggiest idea!!

You worked part time (55)...and are now sucking resources out of the system like you've earned it...You of all people should have a better understanding of people and empathy..yet shallow of any real understanding or empathy..you're a hypocrite!

Now back to that question...(we'll see how honest our little board is.)..Who thinks a-person should have to pay a rather hefty departure tax from moving from their country of origin to elsewhere? (Keeping in mind all personal savings have already been taxed, and Retirememt savings plans are automatically taxed when divested here in Canada)

Toad

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DIY-HP-LED said:

I retired with a full pension from a major corporation, it's called paying your dues Toad and one of the advantages of union membership. Moving money out of the country is taxable under current Canadian law, the Bronfmans avoided this tax a few years back. The richest 1% own the vast majority of the wealth in Canada and the USA, if they don't pay their fair share the rest of us do. As for being a commie, I'm a fan of Adam Smith remember? The whole of Smith, not just the"hidden hand". If you wanna take your wealth out of Canada to avoid taxes you should lose your citizenship (after you become a citizen of another country) and a good chunk of your wealth, but that's up to parliament. I'm a left leaning liberal, not NDP, though socialism works, we see it all around us.

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MrToad69 said:

You still didn't answer...but rather continue to dance around with generalizations...now you're talking about the 1% (representing none on this board). You said "the rich"(Who is that?).How about snowbirds who are sick of the snow?
Since you're not necessarily part of the haves..it very easy for you to go about divy'ing up what they've made...Im guessing your political views are because you're more on the receiving end...as opposed to being an altruistic Warren Buffet type..It's always easier to give money away when its not yours...so dont try to pretend you know how people feel..or what people should be entitled to beyond healthcare and education.

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MrToad69 said:

DIY
You said...

******"If the rich want to leave (Canada), there should be a very steep exit tax with no chance to return"*****

I would like people on this board to honestly to either agree or disagree with that statement? (Anyone care to comment, Im particularly interested in opinions from our good neighbours to the South?)

You're seriously a borderline communist!!! To reiterate...You want people, who have worked all their lives and paid taxes on all those saving already...to pay an exit tax to move away just because they want to live elsewhere...

You talk of greed..but it's apparent that its you who are greedy...Most people work well into their 60's and 70's and you punched out substantially sooner...yet expect the social system to support you! You don't care about the unity of Canada, your comcerned about how the hell are you gonna pay for your healthcare? You have no favourable feelings towards Albertan's..so why stick together?

You're on the other side of the equation... you are the one drawing rather than contributing to the social programs in Canada...So it pretty easy to say..yah..be cool..All good! Chill man! If those social programs relied on money from you...opinions would change

You sit there, meditate and point fingers trying to understand why you think people are upset..and you honestly haven't the foggiest idea!!

You worked part time (55)...and are now sucking resources out of the system like you've earned it...You of all people should have a better understanding of people and empathy..yet shallow of any real understanding or empathy..you're a hypocrite!

Now back to that question...(we'll see how honest our little board is.)..Who thinks a-person should have to pay a rather hefty departure tax from moving from their country of origin to elsewhere? (Keeping in mind all personal savings have already been taxed, and Retirememt savings plans are automatically taxed when divested here in Canada)

Toad

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MrToad69 said:

Buck..
You may have started this thread..but your only contribution has been to whine and show off your self inflicted wound like some dumb jock!
Good job Ace!

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Dr.Amber Trichome said:

Canadian healthcare does not include dental?
My dental insurance offered through my employer is $20 a month and includes 2 cleanings.
At any rate dental work can be super expensive. I found this HuffPost article on a town just south of the USA border that is like a dental city with inexpensive costs. Thought I would pass it along if you or your family or friends need a lot of dental work but can’t afford it, this might be helpful.

Welcome to Molar City, Mexico, The Dental Mecca America’s Health Care Costs Built

A tiny border town is home to hundreds of dentists and is a major destination for Americans seeking big savings on dental care.

www.huffpost.com

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UncleBuck said:

Cum on guys

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rollitup said:

I've been going to a dentist in Tijuana for 25 years, however it's only a 30 minute drive for me. My costs have always been one-third of what they would be in the US, and I consider the dental care to be better. The dentist does not use a dental assistant, he uses a dentist to assist him, so I always have two dentists next to my chair.

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Dr.Amberfriends need a lot of dental work but can’t afford it said:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/welcome-to-molar-city-mexico-the-dental-mecca-americas-health-care-costs-built_n_5dc5772ae4b0fcfb7

DIY-HP-LED said:

I retired with a full pension from a major corporation, it's called paying your dues Toad and one of the advantages of union membership. Moving money out of the country is taxable under current Canadian law, the Bronfmans avoided this tax a few years back. The richest 1% own the vast majority of the wealth in Canada and the USA, if they don't pay their fair share the rest of us do. As for being a commie, I'm a fan of Adam Smith remember? The whole of Smith, not just the"hidden hand". If you wanna take your wealth out of Canada to avoid taxes you should lose your citizenship (after you become a citizen of another country) and a good chunk of your wealth, but that's up to parliament. I'm a left leaning liberal, not NDP, though socialism works, we see it all around us.

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DIY

Just out

DIY-HP-LED said:

I retired with a full pension from a major corporation, it's called paying your dues Toad and one of the advantages of union membership. Moving money out of the country is taxable under current Canadian law, the Bronfmans avoided this tax a few years back. The richest 1% own the vast majority of the wealth in Canada and the USA, if they don't pay their fair share the rest of us do. As for being a commie, I'm a fan of Adam Smith remember? The whole of Smith, not just the"hidden hand". If you wanna take your wealth out of Canada to avoid taxes you should lose your citizenship (after you become a citizen of another country) and a good chunk of your wealth, but that's up to parliament. I'm a left leaning liberal, not NDP, though socialism works, we see it all around us.

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DIY

Posted today...specifically address your comments, and contemporary implications...

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DIY-HP-LED said:

You came on to his thread carrying the baggage of retaliation and an ideology that is unpopular in your own country and among sensible people everywhere. Buck can trade insults with the best of them or argue into the ground with facts and figures. He drew you out and you snowflaked out.


Taxation in Canada is based on residency not citizenship and I would like to see that change. Political change in America could preclude the option of running out on your country, as so many greed heads have done, sometimes with the government's help, like the Bronfman's. If the rich wanna leave there should be a very steep exit tax and no option for return, even for a visit, persona non grata statues I say.


This is the third time your anti french bigotry has shown through and You appear to think that giving money to the "other" is somehow a waste. Quebecers are Canadian citizens and entitled to transfer payments like Maritimers and there is and agreed upon constitutional formula for calculating these payments, argue with the experts, not me

I did not say we had those subsidies in Canada, the US has them, though the oil companies in Alberta are wrecking the environment and by not policing them properly and imposing the environmental costs on them they are in effect subsidized.


He started this thread to tell a personal story about a workplace injury and the cost of treatment in the states, you came on here spouting ideology and calling him an idiot. What about the creation of second class citizens? Are you an oil and gas "executive with lots of perks and a big paycheck? You must be wealthy to support such a greed driven agenda, no working person in their right mind could support such an idea as a two tier medical system. If you want private care nobody is stopping you from jumping on a plane and seeking it elsewhere, there are places where you can even see the poor sick people with out healthcare dying on the streets from your private luxury hospital room.

Buck cut to the point of your arguments in a sentence or two, just like he cut right to your personal flaws. Learn to speak French and appreciate our rich and diverse cultural heritage, don't worry about Quebec so much, they use your money to enjoy life.

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MrToad69 said:

DIY

Just came out today specifically addressing your Robinhood views in a contemporary environment...

https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fca.finance.yahoo.com%2Fnews%2Ffrance-tried-soaking-rich-didn-103027148.html%3Fsoc_src%3Dcommunity%26soc_trk%3Dma&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2afb46d0dae94e6e3cb208d7697b0f2a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637093849561452315&sdata=tutYPZajZ%2BgtKLDv6MPIQC4ETEffKqKhPLGdDC%2FbkRE%3D&reserved=0

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UncleBuck said:

You even spam links like a boomer

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UncleBuck said:

$9,233.47

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ChiefRunningPhist said:

How do you transition from private to public? How many jobs are at stake, how would the retirement packages manage?

I want universal healthcare, but how do you achieve it?

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MrToad69 said:

DIY

Just came out today specifically addressing your Robinhood views in a contemporary environment...

https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fca.finance.yahoo.com%2Fnews%2Ffrance-tried-soaking-rich-didn-103027148.html%3Fsoc_src%3Dcommunity%26soc_trk%3Dma&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2afb46d0dae94e6e3cb208d7697b0f2a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637093849561452315&sdata=tutYPZajZ%2BgtKLDv6MPIQC4ETEffKqKhPLGdDC%2FbkRE%3D&reserved=0

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Budley Doright said:

Just had my appointment with the Urologist yesterday after throwing a clot into my kidney in February. 10 month wait....... not bad lol.

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