I am sorry you are offended by someone with a high level of education and attention to detail. You have been shown numerous examples, you have been proven wrong. Why don't you man up and accept that YOU are the one who could learn more?
3 1000W or 5 600W?
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GrnMn
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guys, quit bitching. I ran 6kw and gave my 600's away. I prefer set it and forget it rather than raising/lowering/moving lights. In the end, it's up to you. If you're confused, get one of each, try them, and use what works best for you and your situation. Fuck, who cares about who does what? Not fucking worth the energy it takes to type all that.
Yes, it is worth it, because knowledge is power and the grower community is filled with a lot of bogus rhetoric and a lack of competent readers. How do you plan to overgrow the planet if you can't even convey to someone else why you use the method you use? "Because it works! That is why I use it!" Well is it the best way? "I don't care, I'm too lazy to do anything other than what I know". That is your attitude, and I don't agree with it.
Warlock1369
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Your a fool. You can't even get it threw your head that I was saying the 5 600 would be more cost effective for the op. Not for me. Even stated that I run 2600w in my room. That's 2 1000w and a 600. So why the fuck would I add my other 2 600's and dim my 1000's to prove your wrong? And I posted pics to prove I know what the fuck I'm talking about. All your doing is posting numbers. Anyone can post numbers but if you can't grow numbers mean shit. And even after you have been shown details showing light ranges and difference of lumens and PAR you still say everyone is wrong. Lmfao. You have made a few good points but then say shit like PAR and light penetration arnt important. Shit you might as well say ph and NPK have nothing to do with growing. You have your mind set that I was saying I grow with 5 600's so you can't even change your ideas. And growth is by strain dude. So even if we did do a side by side it wouldn't be right. Everything but lights would need to be the same. I'm hydro with co2 sealed and temps/humidity at levels I like. There is no way I'm down grading to your level to make you sound worse then you do now! And it's not only me that is saying this. It's in almost evey thread you post in. Somebody is always saying your wrong. I get miss understood from time to time. But I'm smart enough tochange how I said something so it's understood. Or better yet if I was proven wrong I accept it.
Warlock1369
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And that's just it. Your to fucken lazy. Many of us Tryed many different ways and still do. If I never changed I would be growing like I did in the 80's. Guess what! Without change there is no progression.
GrnMn
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So what, being a whiney bitch on the internet is ok because you just taught everyone something important? After reading your arguments, most people are going to consider this thread a waste of time. Good job. As for being lazy, mother fucker you have no fucking clue as to who I am and what I've done for these forums. You've got no idea how many thousands of threads I've posted, how many hundreds of thousands of posts I've made to help others, how many thousands of hours I've spent trying to help. It doesn't matter, this shit runs in a cycle. If you want to help, help those who ask for it and let the rest learn through their own experience. Don't pick a fight with me twatrocket, I don't give a fuck about you, and could care less what your education is. Fuck off.
Buddy, I know exactly what you were saying, and no 5/600W ISN'T THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY. That is what this entire thread is about, and I have given countless examples as to why and so have other people, you are wrong about 5/600W it is cool though, we're still friends. Posting pictures of you being able to grow weed doesn't make you a master grower, you understand that right? Winning a fight doesn't make you an elite level fighter. You're still talking about PAR and lumens, nobody is even discussing that, you are trying to pull some "I know something you don't card!" to give credibility to your failing argument. I know what PAR is, I know what lumens are, I know exactly what you are referring to, but it is irrelevant to what we are discussing. I never said PAR wasn't important, I never said light penetration wasn't important because that is my very argument as to why I can out grow you. "Down grading to my level." Haha, if you say so man, keep growing the way you're growing I don't really care, it isn't going to stop my pursuit of knowledge on the most efficient way to grow cannabis.
Lol, obviously I was calling GrnMn the lazy one...wow, as I said, a complete lack of reading comprehension in the growing community. Thanks for repeating what I just said.
Who cares if "MOST" people find it a waste of time, if one person comes to this thread and has the ability to read they are going to learn something. You are lazy, you are uneducated, you are aggressive, and you are wrong. Your attitude is poor, and is exemplified in your inability to speak to me without cursing. You're not tough, and I am not concerned with what you think, I am here to help progress the knowledge of cannabis cultivation, not getting into a pissing contest. Oh and by the way it says your post count is 455, what hundreds of thousands of posts were you referring to? Also those posts are rather pointless if you've been handing out bad information. You've probably done more harm than good with your hundreds of thousands of misinformed posts.
a mongo frog
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i know i can learn more, and i will continue to learn. u havent shown me any examples of anything. i dont even know if u have ever grown any thing.
Then forever remain ignorant.
GrnMn
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you are funny. I suppose your educated opinion is that people only use one site, and only have one account on that site, right? reinvent the wheel if you want. Technology advances, but plants are still plants. have been for thousands of years, and will be for thousands more. have fun being a dick and pretending you're changing the world.
Warlock1369
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It's pointless fighting with this guy. Almost every thread he post in somebody says he's wrong. After throwing out numbers from books and what should add up he says we are wrong. Last I checked plants don't know how to read so they don't know that they are suppose to fallow what was said in the bible. Or even know what day it is.
a mongo frog
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dont be sad friend. everything is going to be alright. some one might listen to u. and then most likely get busted by the law. look man i love u, but u have alot to learn. just like we all do and want too.
Multiple accounts on multiple websites, I guess I should take this as a positive characteristic? "Plants are plants!" Genius...
Lol, just look at this line of logic. You think we're fighting? We're having a discussion you just find it hard to argue with facts and numbers, where I find it quite easier to argue with, "You're wrong because I say so!" There are countless grows on the web backing up exactly what I am saying in multiple threads. Why is it so hard for you to digest that the way you're growing could, OMGZ, not be as good as it could be?
It is an ant speaking to a giant, and my friend, you are the ant. I like the touch of, "just like we all do and want too." underhanded jab followed by a "we are the world" message with crippling grammar, too cute.
GrnMn
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Warlock1369
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Then back what you say up!!! I never said I was the best or didn't have anything new to learn. Even the god himself Jorge learns everyday. Just ask him. I can prove I know more by showing what all I have Tryed and done. Ether it failed or worked. That is what learning and teaching is about. You my friend are to lazy (your words) to try anything different becouse it works for you. But when we say there are better ways and prove it you toss numbers. Like I said plants don't read so numbers mean shit to them. Each plant is different. Or are you gonna say you can flower a sativa with the same nutes and timeline as a indica? Or use the same for master kush for og kush?
a mongo frog
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i love that song.
Jorge Cervantes isn't a God, he is just an experienced grower. The Gods exist in the botany laboratories around the world. I don't have to prove anything, if you are unable to think about what I am saying in a critical manner and decide from your own growing experience if it is possible or not, then so be it. Is English your second language? You seem to simply be repeating everything I've been saying, and then turning it around as if you were the one with the original thought? Now you're just making shit up to try and sound more credible, "Flower a sativa with the same nutes and timeline as an indica", lol what are you talking about man? You've been proven wrong, just deal with it.
GrnMn
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Me too brother, me too....
Warlock1369
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Hay guys I'm wrong. Lab rats proved it! Guess we all should shut down what we are doing and get this book and save to build the same rooms and never change from that. Books and numbers are better then mother nature and plant make ups. We have been doing it wrong for thousands of years. Let's leave it up to the lab rats that creat poisons and GMO plants to show us how to grow. Don't worry nobody will die. It was tested in a lab under FDA regulations. So how could it be wrong?
You really believe the indoor cultivation methods of today are the same as thousands of years ago? Do you really think there has been no innovation in irrigation systems since "thousands of years ago"? Have you graduated highschool by chance?