Let's blame Obama Care

[echelon1k1]

Nothing is what we have had. Nothing is on track to make the divison between classes even worse than it already is, nothing does not work, something may not work either but it is at long last worth a try.

at long last? If the website is anything to go by, it's not looking good...

 

[canndo]

While I agree in part, I am sceptical that all Americans should accept the current system based on "it's better than nothing"... Complacency shouldn't become a pillar of a healthcare system

A double post I know, but i reread what you said. Indeed complacency is exactly the pillar of our recent health care system. "just wait and I'm sure it will change for the better".

 

[see4]

at long last? If the website is anything to go by, it's not looking good...

Like you, healthcare dot gov had a rocky start in life. But conversely to the way you've turned out, healthcare dot gov will do just fine.

 

[beenthere]

So long as "they" actually believe that someone is getting something for nothing they will continue to bleet about THEIR situation and how the government that bad bad entity is making them less free. Free to be abused by rampant corporatism, free to be denied insurance while costing the rate payer and tax payer huge sums. Oh no, that disaster, personal, health or environmental will never ever happen to them because they live a good, god fearing life. It will only happen to the "takers".

I'm not talking for all my conservative friends but speaking of healthcare, it's not so much the problem that someone is getting something for free.
For me it's the simple fact that government is forcing me to buy something.
I want the right to choose whether or not I need it or want it, the government is taking away that right from me.

 

[echelon1k1]

Like you, healthcare dot gov had a rocky start in life. But conversely to the way you've turned out, healthcare dot gov will do just fine.

I had healthcare when I was born, did you? WOOPS...

 

[UncleBuck]

I want the right to choose whether or not I need it or want it, the government is taking away that right from me.

actually, human nature and biology took that option away from you.

dumbass.

 

[see4]

I'm not talking for all my conservative friends but speaking of healthcare, it's not so much the problem that someone is getting something for free.
For me it's the simple fact that government is forcing me to buy something.
I want the right to choose whether or not I need it or want it, the government is taking away that right from me.

Why are you raging about the government wanting you to be healthy? Why not focus your rage on legalization of marijuana? Or equal rights for gays, knowing that is near and dear to your heart. Why vote against your livelihood?

 

[see4]

I had healthcare when I was born, did you? WOOPS...

haha. please reread what i said. i will allow you to edit your response. dumbass.

 

[cannabineer]

Tough deal, California. It is a state that governs itself by direct vote of people who rarely, as a whole, know the facts. It also tends not to let it's elected lawmakers stay lawmakers long enough to become expert at... making laws.

While this is tangential, I find it a compelling argument against direct democracy. I like having some governors (in the engineering sense) installed on the machine.

 

[see4]

While this is tangential, I find it a compelling argument against direct democracy. I like having some governors (in the engineering sense) installed on the machine.

Regulation is wrought with over-complexity and uncontrollable breakdown when abused. But that does not justify removing all regulation in its place. There is never a right answer for everyone, just a right answer for the many [that are looking for it].

 

[cannabineer]

Regulation is wrought with over-complexity and uncontrollable breakdown when abused. But that does not justify removing all regulation in its place. There is never a right answer for everyone, just a right answer for the many [that are looking for it].

At the same time, our species excels at breeding folks who will abuse regulations in their search for advantage. The equilibrium between regulation, opportunity and societal vitality is very much a dynamic thing, in need of constant and strenuous adjustment. Jmo.

 

[see4]

At the same time, our species excels at breeding folks who will abuse regulations in their search for advantage. The equilibrium between regulation, opportunity and societal vitality is very much a dynamic thing, in need of constant and strenuous adjustment. Jmo.

I wholeheartedly agree. You'll find no support for 'leechers' from me.

 

[echelon1k1]

You'll find no support for 'leechers' from me.

Goes on to "like" bucks posts...

 

[see4]

Goes on to "like" bucks posts...

I've also liked some of yours. So?

You guys assume too much about me.

 

[see4]

citation required

Wooops!!!!!!

 

[echelon1k1]

Wooops!!!!!!

You still didn't cite anything, don't know what you're getting all Crayola for...

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Goes on to "like" bucks posts...

Liberals use their own dictionary

 

[see4]

Republicans use their own dictionary

Corrected that for you.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Corrected that for you.

My bad, you Democrats never want to get anything on your own. Fine. Liberals steal Conservative dictionaries and then Crayola all over them. Actually pretty smart. Who wants that mess back.

 

[schuylaar]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/insurance-companies-misleading-letters-obamacare


But the right will hold the insurance companies blameless.

yeah, i meant to bring this up.

advertisement from florida blue started appearing on my gmail account etc; in researching, they have their "2014" pricing and encourage people to "choose" from their portal..naughty, naughty..shame on you!