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Big P

Big P

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only cuz i first bought the 400 then upgraded to the 600. but i also heard 600 was better than 1000? was also worried 1000 would be too much in one spot.

now i have downgraded to 1 600 watter. just dont need that much weed to smoke for personal


I go through about 1 lb every 2 months just personal use between sharing with friends and makeing green dragon.
 
Joe Camel

Joe Camel

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Yeah Im in a 400w i wonder how long before I grow out of it. IDK
I dont think I'll be in the 1k though. Like you said to much personal.
400 is ideal but maybe a 600 is in the future.

~~Joe~~
 
dangledo

dangledo

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3 400 watters will give twice the parr watts than one 1000 watter, with only 200 more watts. Due to heat and distance factors. Factor in air cooled 1000 watt and you loose 10 percent of light through the glass and have half the light spread. a light mover and you now have 1200 watts. With more light sources lower buds have 2 to 3 light sources now, and less leaf shading. I have gone from 1000 down to 3 400's (currently 2 in use) and couldnt be happier. Thanks Jorge C.
 
Big P

Big P

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dangledo said:
3 400 watters will give twice the parr watts than one 1000 watter, with only 200 more watts. Due to heat and distance factors. Factor in air cooled 1000 watt and you loose 10 percent of light through the glass and have half the light spread. a light mover and you now have 1200 watts. With more light sources lower buds have 2 to 3 light sources now, and less leaf shading. I have gone from 1000 down to 3 400's (currently 2 in use) and couldnt be happier. Thanks Jorge C.
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sounds logical nice work


i heard some things about a 600 watter being the most efficient too but cant remeber exactly
 
dangledo

dangledo

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Big P said:
sounds logical nice work


i heard some things about a 600 watter being the most efficient too but cant remeber exactly
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You are undoubtedly right about that. The 600 watts are the most efficient. lumens per watt ratio. As far as lumens at distance squared, i can get 400 watts upto 6 inches closer. I have just seen temps at 6 to 10 degrees higher as well. I also use Chrome dome light bulb, reflector built in. Less traped heat and the the most efficent light spread. As far as distance traveled from bulb to reflector and back to plants....
 
NewGrowth

NewGrowth

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dangledo said:
You are undoubtedly right about that. The 600 watts are the most efficient. lumens per watt ratio. As far as lumens at distance squared, i can get 400 watts upto 6 inches closer. I have just seen temps at 6 to 10 degrees higher as well. I also use Chrome dome light bulb, reflector built in. Less traped heat and the the most efficent light spread. As far as distance traveled from bulb to reflector and back to plants....
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I use Hi-Lux bulbs and the lumen per watt for a 600w HPS 150 lumens/watt

the 1000w HPS is 146 lumens/watt.

The "more efficient" argument is Jorge Cervantes BS IMO.

A 1000w bulb also penetrates the canopy much further than a 600w and with cool tubes get it just as close . . . .
 
dangledo

dangledo

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NewGrowth said:
I use Hi-Lux bulbs and the lumen per watt for a 600w HPS 150 lumens/watt

the 1000w HPS is 146 lumens/watt.

The "more efficient" argument is Jorge Cervantes BS IMO.

A 1000w bulb also penetrates the canopy much further than a 600w and with cool tubes get it just as close . . .










Not an argument, a discussion.
And how is it bullshit when you have clearly stated the facts?? 1000 watter are more intense per candle foot, but you cant get one nearly as close. Light intensity diminishes by half every foot. And if your talking about growing crops with cool tubes, ged da fug outa here.... read up
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NewGrowth

NewGrowth

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dangledo said:
Not an argument, a discussion.
And how is it bullshit when you have clearly stated the facts??
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4 lumens per watt extra is pretty minor and you have to take into account the fact that, the ballasts also draw some power. When I was planning my most recent space for example I was debating two 600w vs two 1000w. My 1000w lamp is rated at 146,000 lumens a 600w 90,000 lumens. So 2x 146,000 = 292,000 vs 2x90,000= 180,000.

That is a big difference! Two thousand watt lamps put out 112,000 more lumens! Two 1000w lamps equal more than THREE 600w lamps!

So how in the hell is a 600 watt lamp "more efficient" than a 1000w lamp?

Like I said before it is Jorge Cervante's bullshit . . . .

1000 watter are more intense per candle foot, but you cant get one nearly as close. Light intensity diminishes by half every foot. And if your talking about growing crops with cool tubes, ged da fug outa here.... read up
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True but a 1000w lamp is almost TWICE as intense as a 600w lamp. That is a big difference.

The cool tube comment you made is silly, the glass of the cool tube refracts a minor amount of light if it is good glass and the cooling benefits FAR outweigh the light loss.

So there you have it I'll stop hijacking the thread now, sorry peeps post your
White Widow pics!:weed:
 
Big P

Big P

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dangledo said:
Thank you kind sir.:leaf:
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I have just recently familiarized my self with the fact that the sunmaster and horilux brand bulbs are some of the best around and worth the extra money

i just finished using a brand new one and I got my best yeild ever exactly 600 grams using a 600 Watter 1 gram per watt and took the rest of the sniggletts (shitty popcorn buds) and made green dragon with them


so anyway im real happy with the sunmaster and vowed to buy one every 2 - 4 grows and keep the engine of my op burning bright

but tell me more about the reflected bulbs

do they come from horilux or sunmaster or is it another manufacturer?
 
breakneck

breakneck

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Big P said:
I have just recently familiarized my self with the fact that the sunmaster and horilux brand bulbs are some of the best around and worth the extra money

i just finished using a brand new one and I got my best yeild ever exactly 600 grams using a 600 Watter 1 gram per watt and took the rest of the sniggletts (shitty popcorn buds) and made green dragon with them


so anyway im real happy with the sunmaster and vowed to buy one every 2 - 4 grows and keep the engine of my op burning bright

but tell me more about the reflected bulbs

do they come from horilux or sunmaster or is it another manufacturer?
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How did the Green Dragon work out? My buddy made some a while ago - it tasted terrible and did nothing.
 
jrk152

jrk152

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breakneck said:
No prob. +rep

I cannot believe the inter-nodal growth that has shot out in the last day since I put the foil over the soil... CRAZY!
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Nice looking one there. My seedling, only a day or two behind yours, is looking almost identical, just half a leaf shorter. Might try the foil as it seems to have worked nicely for yours. doesn't it create heat spots though? And doesn't it block ventilation to the soil?
 
Joe Camel

Joe Camel

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New Growth that was an excellent post thanks for some background on adding up Lumens.

Big P you're a funny motherfucker.
Sniggletts= Shitty popcorn bud. Lmao
 
Big P

Big P

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breakneck said:
How did the Green Dragon work out? My buddy made some a while ago - it tasted terrible and did nothing.
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man you dont even wanna know i have been using like an oz of bud and all my trim and popcorn buds and making a 1/2 gallon of green dragon at a time.

literally we now have like little dragon parties. get sooo fucked up even when you wake up in the morning you will still be high depending on your dose and tolerance


but heres the video if you havent tried it I highly recomend. make sure you got nothing to do for many hours take a good dose and make sure you got a shit load of munchies and some alcohol to drink incase the high gets too intense and you need to calm yourself down a bit

its best made from bud and if you use like 5 grams to make it and end up with 5 shots of dragon i would take maybe 1 shot to start with and then add more as needed. I like to make it like 1 gram bud per shot.

we call 1 shot level 1 and 2 shots level 2 and so on:-P


most i ever took was level 5 last weekend and i fell asleep within like 2 hours after eating a shit load of ribs. when i work up i was still blazed as hell and had a deathly stomach ache:weed:

so now im a level 5 dragon slayer:-P


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NoBarriers

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Here's mine. Just put into 12/12 on aug 12. I'm flowering the mother, about 24" tall and 3 clones. They are all in 5 gallon growbags

Medium: FFOF 50/50 w/ promix
Lights: 1000watt hps
nutes: FoxFarm trio
Breeder: Green House Seeds
Room: 4x4x 6 1/2

2 1/2 month old mother plant

Top View of Same Plant


4 week old clone
 
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