Party leaders are not strategic geniuses, they just really like moderates, new research finds
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Unclebaldrick
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Why were you turned away? I would gnaw through concrete to vote, it's not like elections happen without warning.
And after I voted for him and he lost, I did the responsible thing and worked my ass off for Hillary, a candidate I did not like. I knew what Trump meant.
Fogdog
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"it's time for you to choose a side"
LOL It looks like Progressives(tm) are looking at the success on the progressive's side and trying to claim it for their own.
While it is not to be expected that an organization like Our Revolution sees all its candidates rush to victory, it is not exactly a secret that Bernie’s electoral appeal/ power seems to have disappeared entirely.
In fact, to hide their complete lack of electoral successes, Our Revolution now proceeds to support moderate Clinton/ Obama Democrats and claims their victory as their own.
A Perfect example of this is Randall Woodfin, the Alabama State Director of Hillary Clinton’s campaign, who was endorsed by OR and, when he won his election for Birmingham mayor, celebrated as a typical OR victory.
A more recent example is the late endorsement of Stacey Abrams for Georgia Governor. Abrams, whose campaign started in June, appears to do very well in recent polls after which OR jumped on board and endorsed her. In a typical attempt to make it appear as if Our Revolution is doing fine, OR now endorses moderate/ centrist candidates.
https://medium.com/@investigator_21314/the-premature-death-of-our-revolution-dd66b85557df
His step-daughter, endorsed by Our Revulsion, ran for Mayor in Birmingham and lost.
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Fogdog
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I preferred the earlier schuylaar who could admit that she forgot to change her registration from independent to Democrat.
This dishonest version should be rebooted and the earlier version restored.
Sativied
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Whenever I see more anti-Hillary sentiment from a leftie then people with #MAGA and #christian in their bio I assume it’s because they were in the same position as you but ended up picking Trump. Rather than recognizing that mistake, forgiving themselves, and wising up, they continue to blame “Crooked H”.
If you all plan to remain the “United” States, forgive the ones who voted Trump, point your arrows at the ones who still support him.
It’s an idealistic delusion you get to vote for “your” candidate. All you can do is vote for the lesser evil or go into politics yourself.
Unclebaldrick
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Unclebaldrick
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Fogdog
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Her posts have become disjointed and incoherent lately.
"I won't stand for trampling upon my rights as a voter" The truth of the matter is, as she said days after the Florida primary in 2016, she forgot that she was registered Independent and as was clearly stated years ago, Florida runs a closed primary.
I think Democrats should run closed primaries too. Fuck the idea of allowing people who aren't part of the party to vote on our choice for the nomination. I think a six-month deadline before the election is almost too generous.
Padawanbater2
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Because that's inclusive, that's democracy
Democracy is having everyone involved in the voting process being able to cast their vote for the candidate they believe reflects their best interests
Why would anyone oppose this?
Are you opposed to direct democracy? 1 person 1 vote?
SneekyNinja
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Except that Primaries are party affairs, I'm not offended I don't get a vote in the Republican one...why not?
Because I'm not a Republican.
Padawanbater2
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Shouldn't primaries on both sides be open, to allow more potential voters to vote?
travisw
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No.
And if Limbaugh can help keep the intra-party feuding going until the Democratic National Convention in Denver in late August, one side might feel so embittered, it could lose its enthusiasm for Nov. 4.
The Operation has been going on for weeks now. No one knows exactly what effect it's had, but Rush has been encouraging Republicans among his 12-13 million daily listeners to change their party registration, since the GOP race is settled. And help Hillary. Because it hurts Democrats.
Carla Marinucci, the San Francisco Chronicle's esteemed political writer, examined Rush's operationover the weekend and found, for instance, some 100,000 Republicans crossed over in last week's Democratic primary in Pennsylvania.
Another 100,000 Republicans-turned-Democrat-for-now voted for Clinton in Ohio, maybe 120,000 more in Texas, 38,000 in Mississippi. Obviously, not all were following their the orders of their Commander -- or as he brags some Democrats call him, the Great Satan.
Rush Limbaugh directs his Operation Chaos against Clinton and Obama
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/rush-limbaugh.html
SneekyNinja
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Nope, because that would allow strategic disruptive voting from people hostile to the party.
Remember, when voting in a primary you're choosing who will represent the Party, it's NOT a national election.
Unclebaldrick
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RIGGED!!!
Unclebaldrick
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It isn't just her. It's all three of them. But she is pretty clearly the least intelligent so hers are very much the worst of the three.
londonfog
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@schuylaar you suppressed your own vote by not registering as a Democrat. The day Bernard Sanders announce he would be running as a dem you should have immediately switch your voter registration from Indy to Dem, instead you started a thread on RIU.
When it came time to vote in the primary you were still registered as a Independent
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You not voting was not do to voter suppression, but instead it was because of voters ignorance. Wearing a Bernie suit and wig will not automatically enable you to cast a vote at the polls. Hope lesson was learned.
When it came time to vote in the primary you were still registered as a Independent
. You not voting was not do to voter suppression, but instead it was because of voters ignorance. Wearing a Bernie suit and wig will not automatically enable you to cast a vote at the polls. Hope lesson was learned.
londonfog
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Some states do have open primaries geez it should be a test to qualify to vote.
srh88
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Bernie isnt running as a dem again@schuylaar you suppressed your own vote by not registering as a Democrat. The day Bernard Sanders announce he would be running as a dem you should have immediately switch your voter registration from Indy to Dem, instead you started a thread on RIU.
When it came time to vote in the primary you were still registered as a Independent
You not voting was not do to voter suppression, but instead it was because of voters ignorance. Wearing a Bernie suit and wig will not automatically enable you to cast a vote at the polls. Hope lesson was learned.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/391459-dnc-panel-adopts-rule-requiring-candidates-to-run-serve-as-a-democrat
UncleBuck
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Fogdog
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The rules change doesn't prevent Bernie from registering for Democrat just before he announces, as he did in 2015. I'd block that kind of last minute switch but that's not what the new rules say.