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Bubba Nub

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Right on. Not tying too.... was just making sure I was reading it right. It's kinda rambling and incoherent.
 

Nevaeh420

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Because my astute friend, she was not born but created from a rib. How would she have a belly button if there was no umbilical cord? Not very bright...
Lol, you believe in that?

because she was made from a rib, dummy. I don't even believe in that crap and I know that.
Thats right, the only two humans that wouldnt have a belly button. Too bad its just fiction anyways.

~PEACE~
 

Nevaeh420

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Short answer, yes.

Long answer, please don't get this fuckin' guy started. It's hard enough to find a topic in the SS&P that he hasn't spammed with his lunacy about being Christ and seeing aliens on his neighbors roof.

He thinks to be a prophet you just need to make guesses about the future. Never mind that none of his prophecies have come true, (including such gems as; giant, translucent balls homes, giant underwater cities, and my personal favorite; using 'giant space lasers' to move stars) that doesn't stop him from claiming to be the best prophet ever. (What ever that means) lol

He has no grasp of reality, let alone scientific principles, and should not be encouraged.

Do not feed the bears.
I have never seen "alienS on My neighbors roof".

I only saw a SINGLE alien on My neighbors roof.

Try and pay attention Beef, I know its difficult for you, lmao, just kidding.

But I have seen MANY UFOs for exactly 5 months now, but I only saw one alien in My entire life. Next time, get it right.

~PEACE~
 

DutchKillsRambo

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At least as far as what I wrote Neveah, Creationism is incompatible with Evolution. Part of the reason is Creationists conflate Evolution with Abiogenesis, the belief that life started in the proverbial "primordial soup". Part of it is Creationism is anathema to the Scientific Method. Part of it is Creationism is a relatively recent phenomena, really only taking hold in America in the Fundamentalist revival of the 1920's.

Creationists vehemently deny any type of evolution, hence why they are incompatible. Also why they are a toxic cancer on furthering science in America. Even the Catholic Church and most other Churches agree evolution is real, and that the Bible is an allegorical story and shouldn't be taken literally as far as Genesis is concerned.

Belief in a Creator has zero to do with Evolution. I personally believe in something beyond what we can see, but I'm also not retarded enough to discount empirical evidence, like Creationists do.
 

Nevaeh420

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At least as far as what I wrote Neveah, Creationism is incompatible with Evolution. Part of the reason is Creationists conflate Evolution with Abiogenesis, the belief that life started in the proverbial "primordial soup". Part of it is Creationism is anathema to the Scientific Method. Part of it is Creationism is a relatively recent phenomena, really only taking hold in America in the Fundamentalist revival of the 1920's.

Creationists vehemently deny any type of evolution, hence why they are incompatible. Also why they are a toxic cancer on furthering science in America. Even the Catholic Church and most other Churches agree evolution is real, and that the Bible is an allegorical story and shouldn't be taken literally as far as Genesis is concerned.

Belief in a Creator has zero to do with Evolution. I personally believe in something beyond what we can see, but I'm also not retarded enough to discount empirical evidence, like Creationists do.
The only thing I agree with the creationists is the fact that I believe God created everything, i.e. the Big Bang.

~PEACE~
 

Padawanbater2

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The only thing I agree with the creationists is the fact that I believe God created everything, i.e. the Big Bang.

~PEACE~
Then you're not in any sense of the word a "creationist" or believe creationist ideals as creationism is a really rigid set of beliefs that you have to accept

You believe something completely different. I'm not sure the word
 

Heisenberg

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Then you're not in any sense of the word a "creationist" or believe creationist ideals as creationism is a really rigid set of beliefs that you have to accept

You believe something completely different. I'm not sure the word
He's just not a young-earth creationist. Technically, even pastafarians are creationists.

"
The term "creationism" is often used as a synonym for the specific ideology of "young Earth creationism". Young Earth creationism is the belief that Genesis chapters 1 and 2 are God's historical account of his creation, given to Moses during the Exodus. Based on Bishop James Ussher's Biblical genealogies, young Earth creationists believe that God created the universe and everything in it over the course of six, 24-hour, solar days approximately 6,000 years ago - although some are prepared to go as far as 10,000 years.

Other varieties of creationism are sometimes less in conflict with empirical observations; and those, such as deist beliefs, which have the least divine intervention are the least in conflict. "


http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Creationism
 

Nevaeh420

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Then you're not in any sense of the word a "creationist" or believe creationist ideals as creationism is a really rigid set of beliefs that you have to accept

You believe something completely different. I'm not sure the word
I dont consider Myself an evolutionist either because I believe God is in control of (some) evolution, like humans for example. I believe God knows or created a propensity for survival of the fittest, aka natural selection.

I cant prove God either but I do believe we live in His creation- the universe. God is the biggest mystery to Me, maybe God is shy or maybe He doesnt exist at all, I dont know.

Someone or something created the universe from absolutly nothing; I just dont know Who or what, and I dont think anyone can answer the origins of the Big Bang.

~PEACE~
 

Nevaeh420

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Someone who believes god initiated the big bang, and governs how evolution grows and works. Neat idea.
Currently, thats My ideology.

I just posted that actually in My last post.

But who knows whos right when it comes to spirituality or spiritual rhetoric?

~PEACE~
 

Bubba Nub

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So what happens when we definitively know the "big bang" is nothing more than a reoccurring pattern of inflation and deflation of our known universe, contained within a larger metaverse that's infinite, with an infinite number of other universes like ours doing the same thing? It's a never ending pattern of repetition, whether one looks on a cosmic level, or on a microscopic level. Patterns, repeated. Over and over... And I say prove, because Einsteins theory of relativity and quantum physics will be unified within our lifetime. Organic computers will be a reality in our lifetime. And when those two things happen, it will make the industrial revolution look like a bake sale...
I have a difficult time comprehending sometimes, that all the matter in the universe was compressed down to the size of a quark. Everything in existence. That's bigger than I can wrap my mind around sometimes.

The above is the result of a VERY high science junky...
 

Nevaeh420

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So what happens when we definitively know the "big bang" is nothing more than a reoccurring pattern of inflation and deflation of our known universe, contained within a larger metaverse that's infinite, with an infinite number of other universes like ours doing the same thing? It's a never ending pattern of repetition, whether one looks on a cosmic level, or on a microscopic level. Patterns, repeated. Over and over... And I say prove, because Einsteins theory of relativity and quantum physics will be unified within our lifetime. Organic computers will be a reality in our lifetime. And when those two things happen, it will make the industrial revolution look like a bake sale...
I have a difficult time comprehending sometimes, that all the matter in the universe was compressed down to the size of a quark. Everything in existence. That's bigger than I can wrap my mind around sometimes.

The above is the result of a VERY high science junky...
I agree that there is a potential for the implosion of the universe- a big collapse; but there still had to have been a beginning to each universe in the multiverse. There is no such thing as "created an infinite time ago". Even if the first "cycle" happened (hypothetically of course) 99^9999999999999999999999999999 trillions of years ago, there still was a beginning.

But science posits that the universe is 13.7 billions of years old. THAT may seem like an infinite amount of time RELATIVE to a human life, but its still finite.

Science cant prove, currently, a multiverse or of any universial cycle, i.e. big collapses making way for more big bangs.

We cant even observe the full universe, never mind a multiverse; and all the evidence points to the fact that the universe has always been expanding.

With that being said, I believe in the potential for a multiverse and I believe its possible for a certain universe to collapse in on itself, but thats just conjecture.

~PEACE~
 

Skuxx

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I agree that there is a potential for the implosion of the universe- a big collapse; but there still had to have been a beginning to each universe in the multiverse. There is no such thing as "created an infinite time ago". Even if the first "cycle" happened (hypothetically of course) 99^9999999999999999999999999999 trillions of years ago, there still was a beginning.

But science posits that the universe is 13.7 billions of years old. THAT may seem like an infinite amount of time RELATIVE to a human life, but its still finite.

Science cant prove, currently, a multiverse or of any universial cycle, i.e. big collapses making way for more big bangs.

We cant even observe the full universe, never mind a multiverse; and all the evidence points to the fact that the universe has always been expanding.

With that being said, I believe in the potential for a multiverse and I believe its possible for a certain universe to collapse in on itself, but thats just conjecture.

~PEACE~
So you're saying that there HAD to be a beginning...... This cannot be eternal?? but yet you believe that GOD created everything? Let me guess.... this god is eternal, isn't it??? That simple doesn't make any sense.

There was never a beginning of existence. There was no "creation".... because the word creation implies that there was a beginning. Which is funny, because creationists believe in an eternal god.... that WASN'T created....
 

Heisenberg

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"Does it mean, if you don’t understand something, and the community of physicists don’t understand it, that means God did it? Is that how you want to play this game? Because if it is, here’s a list of things in the past that the physicists at the time didn’t understand [and now we do understand] [...]. If that’s how you want to invoke your evidence for God, then God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance that’s getting smaller and smaller and smaller as time moves on - so just be ready for that to happen, if that’s how you want to come at the problem." -NDT
 

Sand4x105

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It's easier to believe my Alien Ant Farm ...we are in the giant Alien's kids giant [well miniature to them] ant farm, except we are the ants...
Than it is to believe the Geneses version of the BIBLE...
My dad 'said' and believe the earth was made by god with all the fossils and extinct bones from long gone animals, evolution is obviously false...He'd say...

The Old Bible... written by man with mans memory...
Just the other day science said that camels were domesticated after 900 BC yet the bible talks about them much earlier like 2700 BC....when that just didn't happen...
 
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