Ww3

NevaSmokedOut

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when does anybody believe the next world war might jump. it's almost inevitable to avoid one since there have been 2.
 

justugh

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soon very very very soon .........war is in the middle east now for years ............if u go on the world as the bible sawl it we are in WW3 now with all the fighting in the middle east and have been for about 4 years

if u are talking a real one ...........that will come as soon as the US dollar breaks and that will be soon with the way the ppl are running it into the ground the way they are .......this is the final grab for stuff to set your ass up

jobs are not out there unless u want to work for the goverment .........our money is only backed with the word that it has value (we do not own enough gold silver or anything to cover all the money that has been printed and going around out there..................sooner or later ppl will figure this out

i have already removed most of my money from the bank (just leave 1000 for bills) the rest i buy silver ingots ( if it does end they will be easy to trade and if it does not i got them for under 20 bucks 5 years they are worth 25 that is sheer profit better then a banks rate )
 

NoDrama

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soon very very very soon .........war is in the middle east now for years ............if u go on the world as the bible sawl it we are in WW3 now with all the fighting in the middle east and have been for about 4 years

if u are talking a real one ...........that will come as soon as the US dollar breaks and that will be soon with the way the ppl are running it into the ground the way they are .......this is the final grab for stuff to set your ass up

jobs are not out there unless u want to work for the goverment .........our money is only backed with the word that it has value (we do not own enough gold silver or anything to cover all the money that has been printed and going around out there..................sooner or later ppl will figure this out

i have already removed most of my money from the bank (just leave 1000 for bills) the rest i buy silver ingots ( if it does end they will be easy to trade and if it does not i got them for under 20 bucks 5 years they are worth 25 that is sheer profit better then a banks rate )
one ounce of gold could conceivably cover all the dollars that exist, we have enough, its just that a dollar will only be worth 1/1,000,000,000,000,000 of a gram of gold.

Anyway, most possibly the gold in Ft Knox and under the street in New York has most likely been leased out and is not actually physically there to back the dollar in the first place. Whatever gold the Federal Reserve has is theirs and is not the property of the US Government or the people of the USA. So, the FEderal Reserve Notes MIGHT have some actual gold backing, but I doubt it would be much or last long.

US dollars stopped being produced in 1964.
 

Nevaeh420

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WW3 will happen when (the Second Coming of) Christ "officially" comes back and Armageddon ensues.

At least thats what the Bible teaches. I dont believe in all the Bible, but I could see how there would be great controversy over the (Second Coming of) Christ.

There will be people that stongly believe in Me and people that totally resent all that I stand for. The people that believe in Me will be a lot of the Christians, and the people that dont believe im Me will be the "infidels".

I could see how there will be wars over Me, but I honestly hope war goes extinct today.

Im Christ, if you havent noticed.

~PEACE~
 

justugh

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one ounce of gold could conceivably cover all the dollars that exist, we have enough, its just that a dollar will only be worth 1/1,000,000,000,000,000 of a gram of gold.

Anyway, most possibly the gold in Ft Knox and under the street in New York has most likely been leased out and is not actually physically there to back the dollar in the first place. Whatever gold the Federal Reserve has is theirs and is not the property of the US Government or the people of the USA. So, the FEderal Reserve Notes MIGHT have some actual gold backing, but I doubt it would be much or last long.

US dollars stopped being produced in 1964.
we were moved off the gold standard years ago ...............the total amount of gold in the world would fill a football feild ( a rectangular field, 120.0 yd x 53.3 yd or 6400 yd² ) all the gold i mean everything would only fill the feild up to a height of 3 feet......that is it in of all of history of man kind alll the gold


us leaving the gold standard
[h=5]The Constitution requires US currency be minted in[/h] gold and silver.
Article 10: ''No state shall emit bills of credit, make any thing but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts, coin money.'' The Founding Fathers knew that irresponsible govts print paper money, backed by nothing, overspend and devalue the currency, causing "inflation", and destroying the economy. That has been happening for decades and is accelerating at a tremendous rate NOW.
When the govt began issuing paper money it was backed by real gold and silver.
In 1913, the Federal Reserve System was created by Congress; a private company, owned by member banks, and controlled by the bankers. The bank notes were redeemable for gold/silver.

In 1933, FDR stopped the minting of gold coins and paper money was no longer backed by and redeemable for - gold. You couldn't even own gold, that was illegal. You had to return it to the Treasury for paper money. But "collectors" could keep their gold coins. But they were no longer usable currency...just like you can't go in a store today and buy bread with a gold coin! Federal Reserve Notes are not backed by, or redeemable for gold/silver.

The mint made silver coins through '64, then reduced the silver content to 50%, and then finally in 1970 silver coins ceased. This was due to inflation (we were warned it could happen by Thomas Jefferson, see first paragraph). In 1971, the govt ceased allowing foreign banks to redeem US dollars for gold. This was when the gold standard ceased.

we are already breaking the rules the founding fathers set up .................money today has no vaule nothing backing it but the word that it is good and we will pay and with our credit rating for the usa dropping and most likey will drop again this year from congress inactions
 

justugh

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WW3 will happen when (the Second Coming of) Christ "officially" comes back and Armageddon ensues.

At least thats what the Bible teaches. I dont believe in all the Bible, but I could see how there would be great controversy over the (Second Coming of) Christ.

There will be people that stongly believe in Me and people that totally resent all that I stand for. The people that believe in Me will be a lot of the Christians, and the people that dont believe im Me will be the "infidels".

I could see how there will be wars over Me, but I honestly hope war goes extinct today.

Im Christ, if you havent noticed.

~PEACE~
first thing u have no idea how funny i find your name .............i know someone name that and if he was a stoner it would be great (someone that can party as hard as i do and still be the last man at the keg at 7 am )

2nd thing as for the bible take it with a grain of salt .............u must rem it has been controlled by evil men that have twisted the meanings of words to fit their veiws of the world .........some truth in there but alot of lies and misleading translations

3rd thing your not him ...............at this point time with all that is going u would be way to busy to be on a place like this
 

BigNBushy

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I highly doubt if major countries ever go to war with conventional armies again. If the US and China got in a war, we would wipe their ships from the seas, and their planes from the skies within a matter of weeks.

Then what?

We going to invade china? Doubtful.

China going to invade us? Impossible.

We would either have to nuke each other, or call off the whole party.
 

justugh

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love the pic

nope china would win .............the usa armed forces are at the weakest lvls in the whole history of the country
the number of active ships ....the number of active man aircraft ..........the numbers of ppl ............they are all going downwards and has been for years the new replacement ships have not been built since the budget is in the red and milarty is always the first to take hits

now cyberwar fair ............yes we are good we can do shit ppl have not thought about in the public area...............but it comes down to a numbers china has the numbers they have 5 to 1 or better ..............meaning 5 hackers to 1 hacker here ................and anyone that knows computers it is the numbers that rule with that they could run circles around our ppl...............this is why u always see games and programs that are hacked by teams of ppl not just one person anymore

now throw in some emp pulse placed in certin areas,,,,,,,,,,our national grid is dying (power they have now been keeping up with repairs or improvements)......and our telcom .....internet speeds here are shit .........to have a t100 one of the best speeds out there u have to have the goverments ok (japan they have t100 running to there homes as common as indoor shitter)..and since they did not do what they were told too (rem when all the phone ppl broke into small regions in the 90s....well that was to stop them from being forced into upgrading the telecom system they were smaller and it was a unreasonable request for usa to ask them to pay for it so it was never done).............with all the new tech and ppl online everwhere we are about at the limit what the wires and system can handle hence the goverments ok for t100


we have lost in all respects ..........the only thing we could do is a red dawn type of op using the gangs and ppl with balls as gorilla force and make it not worth it in the end so they leave ...........but with china having the sheer numbers of ppl this would be several very long hard years 30 40 ............and that is where our nukes come in and scorched earth plan
 

canndo

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There was once a measurement of the amount of ordinance depleated per day per soldier. It was found that the amount grew exponentialy every major war. Now we expend many tons per soldier per day in any limited conflict in which we find ourselves. An all out war sans nukes would depleat our reserves in a matter of weeks and there would be no time to tool up for replenishment as we did in WWII. We already went through and obstensibly won WWIII, it was called the cold war.


There will be no conventional world war four, we are too economicaly interconnected and we are all too powerful for a sustained effort.
 

NoDrama

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we were moved off the gold standard years ago ...............the total amount of gold in the world would fill a football feild ( a rectangular field, 120.0 yd x 53.3 yd or 6400 yd² ) all the gold i mean everything would only fill the feild up to a height of 3 feet......that is it in of all of history of man kind alll the gold


us leaving the gold standard
The Constitution requires US currency be minted in

gold and silver.
Article 10: ''No state shall emit bills of credit, make any thing but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts, coin money.'' The Founding Fathers knew that irresponsible govts print paper money, backed by nothing, overspend and devalue the currency, causing "inflation", and destroying the economy. That has been happening for decades and is accelerating at a tremendous rate NOW.
When the govt began issuing paper money it was backed by real gold and silver.
In 1913, the Federal Reserve System was created by Congress; a private company, owned by member banks, and controlled by the bankers. The bank notes were redeemable for gold/silver.

In 1933, FDR stopped the minting of gold coins and paper money was no longer backed by and redeemable for - gold. You couldn't even own gold, that was illegal. You had to return it to the Treasury for paper money. But "collectors" could keep their gold coins. But they were no longer usable currency...just like you can't go in a store today and buy bread with a gold coin! Federal Reserve Notes are not backed by, or redeemable for gold/silver.

The mint made silver coins through '64, then reduced the silver content to 50%, and then finally in 1970 silver coins ceased. This was due to inflation (we were warned it could happen by Thomas Jefferson, see first paragraph). In 1971, the govt ceased allowing foreign banks to redeem US dollars for gold. This was when the gold standard ceased.

we are already breaking the rules the founding fathers set up .................money today has no vaule nothing backing it but the word that it is good and we will pay and with our credit rating for the usa dropping and most likey will drop again this year from congress inactions
You have many of your facts wrong.

In 1933 gold still backed the dollar, all the way until August 16, 1971. It was still 100% legal to own gold in any amount also. Executive orders do not pertain to the people, even in 1933. No one was ever prosecuted for having gold either, althoug if you kept gold in a safe deposit box the government did confiscate it, but of course they paid the going rate, plus a slight premium.

The only paper money the US government has ever issued were "Greenbacks" or US legal Tender notes. Starting in 1862, The US stopped issuance of these notes on August 16, 1971.

All silver coins stopped being minted and circulated in 1964, the 50% coins you refer to were collectibles issued by the mint, none were ever circulated. I have several.

The paper dollars we have now are not issued by the US Government.
 

Rob Roy

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I highly doubt if major countries ever go to war with conventional armies again. If the US and China got in a war, we would wipe their ships from the seas, and their planes from the skies within a matter of weeks.

Then what?

We going to invade china? Doubtful.

China going to invade us? Impossible.

We would either have to nuke each other, or call off the whole party.
These are interesting points you've made.

Police actions on the "lesser countries" will likely see boots on the ground to instill the Imperial stamp of the big bosses, but gang warfare between the heavy hitters involving nukes is a scary reality.
 

NoDrama

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Wars are by proxy today folks.

Know who bought all of Libya's oil before we "freed the shit out of" them? China.

Know who Saddam was going to sell his oil to and for which currency? Europe and the euro, then we freed the shit out of them.

Does anyone know who Iran's #1 customer is? China.

Know who buys more homes in the US than Americans do? The Chinese.
 

justugh

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You have many of your facts wrong.

In 1933 gold still backed the dollar, all the way until August 16, 1971. It was still 100% legal to own gold in any amount also. Executive orders do not pertain to the people, even in 1933. No one was ever prosecuted for having gold either, althoug if you kept gold in a safe deposit box the government did confiscate it, but of course they paid the going rate, plus a slight premium.

The only paper money the US government has ever issued were "Greenbacks" or US legal Tender notes. Starting in 1862, The US stopped issuance of these notes on August 16, 1971.

All silver coins stopped being minted and circulated in 1964, the 50% coins you refer to were collectibles issued by the mint, none were ever circulated. I have several.

The paper dollars we have now are not issued by the US Government.

http://askville.amazon.com/USA-gold-standard/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=61730078
is a direct cut and paste

my point is there is nothing backing the money...........the goverment is a bunch of elite making rules that effect everyone but them

the founding fathers set a system up to prevent this in 1933 they bypassed this whole thing to do what they want to do ...............1933 FDR took usa off the gold standard making the money (paper money) and coin money backed by silver ( u seen them the silver note dollars ) and in 1971 the usa told all other ppl/banks not to give usa ppl gold or silver for there paper money

if u do not see what is wrong with that then u are just part of the problem .........the system is broken and has been for many years ...........next major terror attack ppl will give up even more freedoms (to feel so called safe) and it will revert back to midevil times hell it almost there now u have to keep what ever crappy job u have now just to make rent and food ...............so really it is no different except ppl think they are free
 

NoDrama

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if u do not see what is wrong with that then u are just part of the problem .........the system is broken and has been for many years ...........next major terror attack ppl will give up even more freedoms (to feel so called safe) and it will revert back to midevil times hell it almost there now u have to keep what ever crappy job u have now just to make rent and food ...............so really it is no different except ppl think they are free
Umm, no. we will not go back to Medieval times, that is a ridiculous notion.


Also, FDR did not take us off a gold backing, we were on a bimetallic standard until 1964, and an exclusive gold one until 1971.

And for the win. Did you see who gave the information you so thoughtfully linked for me?

Answer from Jenn*WeWinIn2010*


Is Jenn*WeWinIn2010* really a reliable source? Your information is coming from an anonymous poster that answered some stupid question. Askville? Really?

FDR couldn't have done what he did without the
[h=1]Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917[/h]
 

twostrokenut

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i have already removed most of my money from the bank (just leave 1000 for bills) the rest i buy silver ingots ( if it does end they will be easy to trade and if it does not i got them for under 20 bucks 5 years they are worth 25 that is sheer profit better then a banks rate )
You are undershooting that by a large margin.

Sliver could easily hit $2k per oz. Easily.
There are that many false receipts out there.
 

NoDrama

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You are undershooting that by a large margin.

Sliver could easily hit $2k per oz. Easily.
There are that many false receipts out there.
I love a cinderella story as much as the next, but its gonna be a long time before silver is at $2k an ounce.
 

BigNBushy

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You have many of your facts wrong.

In 1933 gold still backed the dollar, all the way until August 16, 1971. It was still 100% legal to own gold in any amount also. Executive orders do not pertain to the people, even in 1933. No one was ever prosecuted for having gold either, althoug if you kept gold in a safe deposit box the government did confiscate it, but of course they paid the going rate, plus a slight premium.

The only paper money the US government has ever issued were "Greenbacks" or US legal Tender notes. Starting in 1862, The US stopped issuance of these notes on August 16, 1971.

All silver coins stopped being minted and circulated in 1964, the 50% coins you refer to were collectibles issued by the mint, none were ever circulated. I have several.

The paper dollars we have now are not issued by the US Government.
I actually think your corrections are incorrect. FDR took us off the gold standard. He put us on something else, and Nixon took us off of that. Sorry I can't be more specific, but that is how it went down.
 
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