White Widow X Bigbud

jujment699 · Aug 18, 2015

Maat Aatack said:
K so I was feeding the heck out of my plants. Every other watering instead of every 2 waterings. They showed some stresses all the way through, but all i did when I suspected a pH or nute tox issue is I flushed, and then fed a general purpose schedule. Must say for 4 weeks in, they are looking a bit behind. What lighting and air systems do you have working?

600W HID HPS and 4 100w CFL 6400K
Lights are air cooled. 6 inch 500 CFM. Oscillating fan in tent on low. Temp is 75-85.

Yeah they do look behind, not sure what caused this reaction from them, again i had barely even started feeding them in flower because in veg i migrated containers twice, so no need. Again the 1/4 strength nutes seem harmless but there is no lockout or anything from what i can tell. I have scoured the internet and N tox is the only culprit i can find but i CANT GET RID OF IT. Even after a few flushes and even less feeding with just simple cal mag. (I know calmag+ has nitrogen.. its just calmag)

Maat Aatack · Aug 18, 2015

Sealed room? co2?

The303Yeti · Aug 18, 2015

jujment699 said:
600W HID HPS and 4 100w CFL 6400K
Lights are air cooled. 6 inch 500 CFM. Oscillating fan in tent on low. Temp is 75-85.

Yeah they do look behind, not sure what caused this reaction from them, again i had barely even started feeding them in flower because in veg i migrated containers twice, so no need. Again the 1/4 strength nutes seem harmless but there is no lockout or anything from what i can tell. I have scoured the internet and N tox is the only culprit i can find but i CANT GET RID OF IT. Even after a few flushes and even less feeding with just simple cal mag. (I know calmag+ has nitrogen.. its just calmag)

I had some burn going on coming into flowering but they seem to be recovering nicely. You can see it on the lower leaves.

jujment699 · Aug 18, 2015

The303Yeti said:
I had some burn going on coming into flowering but they seem to be recovering nicely. You can see it on the lower leaves.View attachment 3482030

Didn't i see a post from you a day or two after mine saying you started flowering right? So you're like right at week 3-4.. i guess my plants aren't too far behind by the looks o:
Compared to maats and the other dude's they don't compare tho.

I never got any actual burn... only N tox. I see on the bottom just a few leaves with the claw... but also yellow which mine are dark dark dark... so your issue might be with overwatering slightly? Who knows, either way they are still beasting bro they look great

Maat Aatack said:
Sealed room? co2?

Mylar tent so yes sealed, technically. I have a veg and flower tent. Veg is 2.5x2.5 and flower is 4x4. Both of them have separate air intakes and one exhaust for smell. The intake receives air from the AC, general air around the room, and some from outside since i do keep a window open. No CO2 generator tho... to much radiation and noise for my living space.

The303Yeti · Aug 19, 2015

jujment699 said:
Didn't i see a post from you a day or two after mine saying you started flowering right? So you're like right at week 3-4.. i guess my plants aren't too far behind by the looks o:
Compared to maats and the other dude's they don't compare tho.

I never got any actual burn... only N tox. I see on the bottom just a few leaves with the claw... but also yellow which mine are dark dark dark... so your issue might be with overwatering slightly? Who knows, either way they are still beasting bro they look great

Mylar tent so yes sealed, technically. I have a veg and flower tent. Veg is 2.5x2.5 and flower is 4x4. Both of them have separate air intakes and one exhaust for smell. The intake receives air from the AC, general air around the room, and some from outside since i do keep a window open. No CO2 generator tho... to much radiation and noise for my living space.

I started from seed so my plants are at diffrent stages but they are taking awhile. I'm guessing they put serious weight on in week 5. Some of my girls have just started while the one in the pic is probably 3 weeks. So I'd say I'm right with you. I wouldn't stress to much.

Maat Aatack · Aug 19, 2015

The303Yeti said:
I started from seed so my plants are at diffrent stages but they are taking awhile. I'm guessing they put serious weight on in week 5. Some of my girls have just started while the one in the pic is probably 3 weeks. So I'd say I'm right with you. I wouldn't stress to much.

I'd have to agree with the sentiment of not stressing too much. I think we sometimes forget how resilient these plants can be. The only thing that semi-flags me about your operation is your fresh-air supply. The a/c draws air from outside the tent?

The303Yeti · Aug 19, 2015

Maat Aatack said:
I'd have to agree with the sentiment of not stressing too much. I think we sometimes forget how resilient these plants can be. The only thing that semi-flags me about your operation is your fresh-air supply. The a/c draws air from outside the tent?

Being outdoors shows how slow these are to transition to flower. I used bud ignitor and I have a ton of bud sites but no real weight. I'm seeing a large difference in genetics in this strain. Some are very sativa dominant. What's the transition to flowering like indoors?

jujment699 · Aug 19, 2015

Maat Aatack said:
I'd have to agree with the sentiment of not stressing too much. I think we sometimes forget how resilient these plants can be. The only thing that semi-flags me about your operation is your fresh-air supply. The a/c draws air from outside the tent?

The AC draws the air from inside and outside since it is central. I know some strains see stunted growth after 85 degrees without co2, my first grow I ever did I didn't have any HID cooling because I was an idiot, temps were 120+ and they lived although did not enjoy it lol. I did consider co2 but most my daytime temps are 80. During the 12-3 afternoon time the sun hits the room so it gets a little hotter around 84.

The303Yeti said:
Being outdoors shows how slow these are to transition to flower. I used bud ignitor and I have a ton of bud sites but no real weight. I'm seeing a large difference in genetics in this strain. Some are very sativa dominant. What's the transition to flowering like indoors?

Hmm it took about two weeks for me to start seeing hairs on my small plants but my big plants pre sexed before flower which was nice. Have to agree tho the weight is disappointing ATM. Clusters of hairs but not much else. I just barely popped two more girls into flower and my newest one is flourishing nicely but the hairs still take so long to even show... So buds don't even start on my plants until like week 2-3 so I guess we might have a different dominant pheno like you said.

Where did you buy your seeds? Who is the breeder?

jujment699 · Aug 19, 2015

The303Yeti said:
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Nice, my girls just started flowering yesterday.

jujment699 said:
I put three of the girls in flowering two days ago.

Found the post I was talking about made by both me and you on July 24th. So I guess I'm two days ahead of your most mature. That makes this what.... 27 days? So 1 day shy of week 4 and 4 days shy for you. So yeah.

Maat Aatack · Aug 19, 2015

The303Yeti said:
Being outdoors shows how slow these are to transition to flower. I used bud ignitor and I have a ton of bud sites but no real weight. I'm seeing a large difference in genetics in this strain. Some are very sativa dominant. What's the transition to flowering like indoors?

Transition indoors is almost immediate.

The303Yeti · Aug 19, 2015

jujment699 said:
The AC draws the air from inside and outside since it is central. I know some strains see stunted growth after 85 degrees without co2, my first grow I ever did I didn't have any HID cooling because I was an idiot, temps were 120+ and they lived although did not enjoy it lol. I did consider co2 but most my daytime temps are 80. During the 12-3 afternoon time the sun hits the room so it gets a little hotter around 84.

Hmm it took about two weeks for me to start seeing hairs on my small plants but my big plants pre sexed before flower which was nice. Have to agree tho the weight is disappointing ATM. Clusters of hairs but not much else. I just barely popped two more girls into flower and my newest one is flourishing nicely but the hairs still take so long to even show... So buds don't even start on my plants until like week 2-3 so I guess we might have a different dominant pheno like you said.

Where did you buy your seeds? Who is the breeder?

Herbies. I'll take some pics when I get off to show the diffrence.

The303Yeti · Aug 19, 2015

jujment699 said:
Found the post I was talking about made by both me and you on July 24th. So I guess I'm two days ahead of your most mature. That makes this what.... 27 days? So 1 day shy of week 4 and 4 days shy for you. So yeah.

Sounds about right. Your plants look like they are ahead of mine by a bit. My sativa dominants are just startinging to get lots of hairs.I guess we'll find out. I'm thinking I might be looking at a late Sept harvest.

jujment699 · Aug 19, 2015

The303Yeti said:
Herbies. I'll take some pics when I get off to show the diffrence.

Wow that's crazy. Me too. and @Maat Aatack you got yours from Amsterdam seeds right? and a few others got their seeds from femaleseeds.nl

It must be the breeders pheno, you're the only other person I've talked to that got his shit from herbies.

Herbies is awesome. I got so many free seeds. My first order I got 30 free seeds like 10 strains, most fem. hella fast shipping too! Although if you're gonna buy from there don't "bargain shop" because every single clearance strain I have ever bought from them never popped.

I also agree even though I am at 4 weeks I am imagining another 6-8 weeks. Damnit lol. September for both of us m8.

Maat Aatack · Aug 19, 2015

The breeder I got my lot from was amsterdammarajuanaseeds.com.

Switched to 12/12 on 7/27. Onset of flowers on 8/1. Sorry for the green light.

The303Yeti · Aug 19, 2015

jujment699 said:
Wow that's crazy. Me too. and @Maat Aatack you got yours from Amsterdam seeds right? and a few others got their seeds from femaleseeds.nl

It must be the breeders pheno, you're the only other person I've talked to that got his shit from herbies.

Herbies is awesome. I got so many free seeds. My first order I got 30 free seeds like 10 strains, most fem. hella fast shipping too! Although if you're gonna buy from there don't "bargain shop" because every single clearance strain I have ever bought from them never popped.

I also agree even though I am at 4 weeks I am imagining another 6-8 weeks. Damnit lol. September for both of us m8.[/QUO

jujment699 said:
Wow that's crazy. Me too. and @Maat Aatack you got yours from Amsterdam seeds right? and a few others got their seeds from femaleseeds.nl

It must be the breeders pheno, you're the only other person I've talked to that got his shit from herbies.

Herbies is awesome. I got so many free seeds. My first order I got 30 free seeds like 10 strains, most fem. hella fast shipping too! Although if you're gonna buy from there don't "bargain shop" because every single clearance strain I have ever bought from them never popped.

I also agree even though I am at 4 weeks I am imagining another 6-8 weeks. Damnit lol. September for both of us m8.

Herbies must have a Sativa dominant strain of wwXbb. I'm guessing that's it. It's kinda weird we got our seeds from herbies and they are both taking so long to flower.

The303Yeti · Aug 19, 2015

I wish we could all try each other's. See what the outcome from different banks is.
People were saying wwXbb is trash and some say it's amazing.

Maat Aatack · Aug 19, 2015

Yes I'm curious to hear your harvest reports. Strangely, the pheno I perceive as expressing sativa dominant qualities was in fact the most difficult to establish, and had longer inter-nodal lengths than the rest. However, even though her bud size was smaller, it was much denser, and yielded in the top 3 of the 8 plants.

The303Yeti · Aug 19, 2015

Maat Aatack said:
Yes I'm curious to hear your harvest reports. Strangely, the pheno I perceive as expressing sativa dominant qualities was in fact the most difficult to establish, and had longer inter-nodal lengths than the rest. However, even though her bud size was smaller, it was much denser, and yielded in the top 3 of the 8 plants.

So you can tell the difference. Do your plants seem similar?

jujment699 · Aug 20, 2015

The303Yeti said:
I wish we could all try each other's. See what the outcome from different banks is.
People were saying wwXbb is trash and some say it's amazing.

Honestly I am not enthused right now with how the strain is performing... And the smell? Is rank. The beds smell like road kill they don't smell like buds. Compared to my CSS that is flowering they are grotesque I almost want to take my CSS somewhere else because it's known for it's aroma.

I guess I will wait and see but so far I am "ugh" all over the place right now. Hoping the smell will mature.

The303Yeti said:
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I got a 10 pack of these and they are all the same for me right now. Which is good an bad, means good breeding they bred out all the randomization, but then again it seems like some variation might help this strain. I think herbies breeders just brought out aesthetic traits, not so much smokable ones. I could be wrong tho lol

The303Yeti · Aug 20, 2015

jujment699 said:
Honestly I am not enthused right now with how the strain is performing... And the smell? Is rank. The beds smell like road kill they don't smell like buds. Compared to my CSS that is flowering they are grotesque I almost want to take my CSS somewhere else because it's known for it's aroma.

I guess I will wait and see but so far I am "ugh" all over the place right now. Hoping the smell will mature.

I got a 10 pack of these and they are all the same for me right now. Which is good an bad, means good breeding they bred out all the randomization, but then again it seems like some variation might help this strain. I think herbies breeders just brought out aesthetic traits, not so much smokable ones. I could be wrong tho lol

I have sativa and indica dominant. They have a sweet pine smell to them. What nutrients are you using?

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