When Will USA Fall?

Brick Squad said:

Just a thought
I dont think i carry the same knowledge on the subject as some of you do but,
perhaps would we try to just fight our way out? wage war on countries and take them
for our economic means? I just thought that was kind of a possibility seeing that
we are so invested in our military. Just a thought please dont flame the hell out
of me haha. I just find it hard to believe that the government would just roll over
and be like okay were broke we will give all our stuff away now.


Although the previously mentioned riots could be fun.

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Well everyone says that was the plan for Iraq, and that don't seem to be working out too well for us right now. We've really already overextended our reach and that's only considering what we have, now. I dont think we can add much to this empire without adding to the burden of controlling it as well. America is a pretty big place, but we're still a LONG ways away from the rest of the world. Who might we invade? Canada? Mexico? Cuba? None of those places have much in the way of solving our problem. If they did we would probably have already conquered them.

Brick Squad said:

I just find it hard to believe that the government would just roll over
and be like okay were broke we will give all our stuff away now.


Although the previously mentioned riots could be fun.

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Executive Order 12803 Signed by William Clinton, ol' Billy boy started selling all assets in the USA to anybody. The country has been for sale for a long time.

http://www.waterindustry.org/12803.htm

Executive order 12803 of April 30, 1992
57 FR 19063 / May 4, 1992

TEXT: By the authority vested in me as president by the laws of the United States of America, end in order to ensure that the United States achieves the most beneficial economic use of its resources, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Definitions.

For purposes of this order:

(a) “Privatization” means the disposition or transfer of an infrastructure asset, such as by sale or by long-term lease, from a State or local government to a private party.

(b) “infrastructure asset” means any asset financed in whole or in part by the Federal Government and needed for the functioning of the economy. Examples of such assets include, but are not limited to: roads, tunnels, bridges, electricity supply facilities. mass transit, rail transportation, airports, ports. waterways, water supply facilities, recycling and wastewater treatment facilities, solid waste disposal facilities, housing, schools, prisons, and hospitals.

(c) “Originally authorized purposes” means the general objectives of the original grant program; however, the term is not intended to include every condition requires for a grantee to have obtained the original grant.

(d) “Transfer price” means:

(i) the amount paid or to be paid by a private party for an infrastructure asset, if the asset is transferred as a result of a competitive bidding; of

(ii) the appraised value of an infrastructure asset, as determined by the head of the executive department or agency and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, if the asset is not transferred as a result of competitive bidding.

(e) “state and local governments” means the government of any state of the United States, the District of Columbia. any commonwealth. territory, or possession of the United States, and any country, municipality, city, town. township, local public authority, school district, special district, intrastate district, regional or interstate governmental entity, council of governments, and any agency or instrumentality of a local government, and any federally recognized Indian Tribe.


Privatization of those assets basically means selling them to a Company... which all companies are INTERNATIONAL anyways.. get the picture.. just because it didn't say China bought San Jose's water supply doesn't mean that the organization who bought it wasn't in China. wink wink..


Thank you Bill for selling our country and redefining "sexual relations" you slob.

Hows everybody feel today about that crash when the market tanks like it did. Gee its only Thursday.. wonder what happens tomorrow?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704370704575227754131412596.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEADNewsCollection

1010 points, highest fall in history... interesting how it GAINED much of that back.. can you say MARKET MANIPULATION? But the real thing you should realize is that the market moved on DOLLAR STRENGTH. meaning the dollar is worth more because of Greece failure. But this means EURO failure, which means dollar failure. I still see this thing going full speed ahead in the other direction at some point as the dollar collapses, but its going to loose at least the same amount tomorrow.

Where is that new currency to the rescue.. Oh and you DON'T want to be left holding US Dollars when that emerges.. commodities are best.

Ahh i see very good point we are the only real super power here in the east, but yeah i see what you mean and about selling the country hmmwell i do not plan on joining the army anytime soon haha shit looks bad. On an honest note how long do you think till this would happen or if it would?

speaking of the devil cnn was talking about us having to learn from greece or end up like that

The destruction of the US Currency has to happen by ... what, 2012 at the latest according to the illuminati plan, which has not failed yet. I don't understand how it's still just a conspiracy "theory" when it never seems to fail huh?

ugmjfarmer said:

The destruction of the US Currency has to happen by ... what, 2012 at the latest according to the illuminati plan, which has not failed yet. I don't understand how it's still just a conspiracy "theory" when it never seems to fail huh?

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i like the way you put things man that post was pretty eye openening to me thanks for that.

Also yeah i mean CNN was just talking about us learning from greece or ending up like them but i think it is ultimately innevitable so lol ill enjoy the revolt i suppose i wont be old enough to be out of school and not in debt from school so fuck it i guess ill just riot in the streets while everyone else does haha.

Brick Squad said:

i like the way you put things man that post was pretty eye openening to me thanks for that.

Also yeah i mean CNN was just talking about us learning from greece or ending up like them but i think it is ultimately innevitable so lol ill enjoy the revolt i suppose i wont be old enough to be out of school and not in debt from school so fuck it i guess ill just riot in the streets while everyone else does haha.

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Oh wow.. Listen if anything the revolt is not much to enjoy. I was tear gassed in the Michigan State University riots back in 1998/1999. Really, the whole 10,000 people breaking stuff is ugly. Something about a crowd caught in the spirit of anarchy is just... well.. its something to behold. But enjoy? Laughable. I guess its fun to break stuff, i enjoy that from time to time.. but what is it really going to accomplish. I say let these people do what they want, because revolting is a good way to end up in a concentration camp more than likely with everything I've seen with countries that fail. They need excuses to cut down those carbon emissions, and that means population has to be narrowed down.. Not saying pick the side of evil, but revolting makes you no better than them.

And I revise my theory. I think that the US Dollar will probably start hyperinflation this fall... or maybe its already happening. Why was the market at 11,000 points on no volume? My theory is inflation and they are manipulating the gold/silver markets to make sure nobody notices.

The momentary crash today shows how weak our market is. It may not be the last time this happens. I bet Obama was shittin his pants today. I don't believe that the market is back. I think some rich people got together and bought alot of stock to bring back the market. The stock traders need to stop selling off. They are a bunch of pussies. Following the fear.

Balzac89 said:

The momentary crash today shows how weak our market is. It may not be the last time this happens. I bet Obama was shittin his pants today. I don't believe that the market is back. I think some rich people got together and bought alot of stock to bring back the market. The stock traders need to stop selling off. They are a bunch of pussies. Following the fear.

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Obama organized a special team just for moments like this called the "Working Group on Financial Markets". Their job is to take money (and I do believe that they hold the ability to make this unlimited money, meaning its not real money) and keep the market from crashing. Worked well today. Like I said before, Market Manipulation. They just use big words today like Working Group on Financial Markets.. and It's not ripping us off, its a Credit Default Swap. They rely on your ability to not understand it but see right through it, they are the thieves or the wolves, we are the sheep or the stolen from.. and you just witnessed it happen today.

I say replace the american currency to marijuana. It allways effeciently maintains the same value even if theres lots of extra.

I'm stoned and just wishing weed was money that way if I was sitting around waiting on a bag I could just smoke my cash while I wait lol.

EDIT: Lol just realized if I had weed money I wouldn't be waiting on a bag.

the us owes china 100s of billions of dollhairs. one day they are going to want that back ( yes in one day) and then after that it will start the end. so id say probly like 2 months after that. so its up to china

Vote Ron Paul next election

HydroGirl said:

Vote Ron Paul next election

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I hate to break this to you, but there are signs pointing to the facts that Ron Paul is financed by the same elites (John Birch Society has links to Knights of Malta and Jesuit orders of the Illuminati), and strong evidence that he is a freemason himself much like all the perpetrators of the creation and destruction of the USA.

That's why I'm saying that this whole thing is f'd.. I used to be a starch strong Ron Paul supporter because he spent the last election telling truth and getting mocked. How cruel were those people to be like that to him? But then I started realizing who was behind things, what societies they belong too and in researching these things I found that Paul's whole family is members of them, including his son who is running for some office.. Now I have no direct proof of this.. but his Wife is a member of the Order of the Eastern star, who does not accept membership unless her husband or father is a mason. So... I draw no conclusions yet on him but there is STRONG evidence that he is much like Bush, Clinton, Obama, all of them. Sorry. I really wanted him to be the one too.

How come he's speaking out against some of these things? Why would 'they' provide such a person? my only theory is that they provide the resistance too... and only to dupe you into voting in the next boss, same as the last boss. All in all, since 'they' run the politics game, and control the money.. its all in the bag for 'them'..

So.. I strongly feel however that there is a war about to start in the next year, and probably a BIG one. I think that the landscape of the USA/World could change abruptly.. why would we argue things that are so far ahead like voting for Ron Paul in 2012. He has not announced a run yet right?

<-- Lighting up the Kush and chillin'

bud nugbong said:

the us owes china 100s of billions of dollhairs. one day they are going to want that back ( yes in one day) and then after that it will start the end. so id say probly like 2 months after that. so its up to china

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Yep. They also can reach us with thermonuclear weapons, and have just about trumped every technology of ours by buying Russian equipment and re-engineering it for themselves. Yeah I would assume they could be the army to attack us, considering they have an overabundance of males to draft.

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*sigh...* yah.. I've heard that Ron Paul had some shady areas Who knows for sure really? No one tells the truth anymore... I really want to move out of country...it's getting bad here.

Yeah, but where is there to go that's any better? I've spent quite a bit of time outside the US (most of it in place that weren't very attractive, like Saudi Arabia) and I know from personal experience how good we have it here. Compared to most of the world those of us in the developed nations have it easy, but it's not going to last long at the rate our governments are going.

As to the notion that this could all end in war, it wouldn't surprise me. Up until the last 50 years or so wars were almost always the result of either population pressure or economics, and were usually a combination of both. Well, right now we've got serious population pressure in a large part of the world, and the entire world economy is fubar. History would indicate that we're due for war on a pretty much global scale, though whether its going to be a lot of small wars scattered all over the map, or one really big one like we had in WWI and WWII remains to be seen.

The next war will most likely be the war to end all wars. You know how Obama is so into keeping nukes 'out of the hands of terrorists"? They want them out of the hands of the people. Us. So we can't use them against them. If there were to be a revolution. Think about it. They've got predator drones, apaches, and god knows what high tech weapondry thats underconstruction right now. It would be a massacre of a devastating proportion. It would be guerilla style fighting vs. the most technologically advanced army in the world. The future lies in the hands of the brave few who 'attempt' to cut off the head of the snake. Which would be difficult seeing as how these high-powered, influencial people are practically invisible. Behind the scenes. And knowing theres hundreds if not thousands more to replace them and continue this sickness that they've brought to this world. What can we expect from the war. It'll be in your backyard. All major media stations, CNN, ABC, FOX will be bombed. Anything that could connect people would be destroyed or shutdown: internet, phone service, etc. Massive virus outbreak, unleashed purposely. The worlds population will drop dramatically. Thats what they want.

Why cant some aliens come down and fix everything...sigh.

I only have a few things to say.

First of all the USA can go into 3rd world status in a very short time, Hyperinflation and destruction of the currency can do that. When bread costs $1,000,000 a loaf and your only making $50/hour at your job if you even have a job. No country has ever had its currency last. Everything will cost so much that 90% of the people will have nothing and do nothing except look for food. Store shelves will be empty, the only things you will be able to buy are on the black market and they will only accept gold and silver for payment.

The Stock market and commodity exchanges are wholly manipulated by government and wall street. Gold and silver prices are highly highly suppressed to keep the dollar illusion going. The Bailout money has been siphoned off into equities to give the appearance of economic recovery and stability and with the hopes of getting everyone who lost money on the markets in 2008 to jump back in only to have the rug pulled out from under them again. For their plan to work the currency (US Dollar) must be ruined. The way the country has been run since Nixon is wholly Keynesian and like John Maynard Keynes himself said "There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."

You see prices rising your whole life, its bred into the system to become ignorant of inflation because it has been a constant and they have gotten us all so used to it over the last 100 years. Inflation is NOT rising prices, inflation is money printing, the more money they print the less every existing dollar is worth. The less it is worth the more of them it takes to buy things so the effect is rising prices. So simple and now a days its mostly digital money so we don't notice the ever larger growing stack of bills we use to pay for groceries or make a house payment. Pretty soon it would equate to an entire wheelbarrow full of $1's to purchase your weeks groceries.

Man NoDrama, 100% on all points there. Scary, but true.

All the war talk scares me you guys, but I think that there is likely a terrorist attack or a false flag of the nuclear sorts to start a great battle. Its going to blames/claimed on/by the Muslim world countries. I have considered leaving the USA but the doors are closing to us worldwide, while the doors here remain open with amnesty for all on the horizon.

If you're not familiar w/ Gerald Celente, he is a trend forecaster that has been pretty spot on for about 30 years. He predicted(no he's not some bs psychic) the housing bubble and collapse, and over the years many other things that have come to pass. This is an interesting interview he gave the other day regarding Greece, fiat money, and the 'near' future for most nations. I heard him describe his methods before, and he says its really simple to see things coming if you're not hypnotized/blinded by the US media. Anyways, here it is....worth a watch.

[video=youtube;wvc-oLZezh0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvc-oLZezh0[/video]