When Will USA Fall?

When Will USA Fall?

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rampagen08

rampagen08

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IMF will soon downgrade the United States as our entire GDP is fast approaching the interest of the debt that the United States owes to the central banks.

When this happens there will be riots, there will be fires, there will be murders... it's gonna suck.

The United States will be a third-world country in the eyes of the rest of the world and will have to sign away our natural resources to stay afloat for another couple years. The government is already saying they will be taking away the constitution is this happens. The IMF said it will happen.

The only question is when.... I heard someone say it could happen as early as this summer...
 
Banditt

Banditt

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rampagen08 said:
The United States will be a third-world country in the eyes of the rest of the world and will have to sign away our natural resources to stay afloat for another couple years. The government is already saying they will be taking away the constitution is this happens. The IMF said it will happen.
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A. It would take a lot of shit to go down before the US could be considered a third world country. Probably won't happen in your lifetime.
B. The government can't take the constitution away. lol The people give the government power. We can also take it away.

I'd like to see where you read this shit...
 
rampagen08

rampagen08

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Banditt said:
A. It would take a lot of shit to go down before the US could be considered a third world country. Probably won't happen in your lifetime.
B. The government can't take the constitution away. lol The people give the government power. We can also take it away.

I'd like to see where you read this shit...
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Administration officials and Democrats in Congress are looking to the commission for recommendations on reducing the federal debt, which is currently projected to reach 90 percent of the U.S. economy by 2020. Interest payments are forecast to quadruple to more than $900 billion annually by that year. Moody’s Investors Service has said it would consider cutting the government’s bond rating if the outlook doesn’t improve.
taken from http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aCab5yE7EhDU
its happening guys.... it sucks.. but it's happening...

When the International Monetary Fund or World Bank offer to lend money to a struggling third-world country (or “emerging market”), they demand “austerity measures“.


What Does This Have to Do With the First World?
Since the IMF and World Bank lend to third world countries, you may reasonably assume that this has nothing to do with “first world” countries like the US and UK.
But England’s economy is in dire straight, and rumors have abounded that the UK might have to rely on a loan from the IMF.

Cpl. CornB33F said:
Yeah no shit. this is fucking retarded! go back to school
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as former U.S. Comptroller General David Walker saidhttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/17/MN8Q11OT2M.DTL&tsp=1 [ http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/17/MN8Q11OT2M.DTL&tsp=1 ]:
People seem to think the [American] government has money. The government doesn’t have any money.



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rampagen08

rampagen08

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The IMF is – in fact – now saying that the U.S. must live more austerely.
As the Washington Post noted Saturday:
In the lingo of the International Monetary Fund, the future of the world hinges on “rebalancing and consolidation,” antiseptic words that would not seem to raise a fuss.
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But the translation is a bit ruder, something on the order of: “Suck it up. The party’s over.”
To keep the global economy on track, people in the United States and the rest of the developed world need to work longer before retiring, pay higher taxes and expect less from government. And the cheap imports lining the shelves of mega-chains such as Wal-Mart and Target? They need to be more expensive.
That’s the practical meaning of a series of policy papers and statements issued in recent days by IMF officials, who have a long history of stabilizing economies and solving global financial problems, as they plot a course to keep the world economy growing and reduce the risk of another “great recession.”
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It means a pretty serious reworking of expectations in the developed world: changes in labor rules, product prices, currency values and even the social contract between governments and an aging citizenry.
“It is not that living standards will lower, but they will not increase as fast as they have been,” said Domenico Lombardi, a former IMF executive director. The ideas being discussed by world leaders “are coded words,” he said. “They don’t like words like ‘imposing higher taxes’ and ‘cutting spending.’ ”
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The level of the correction needed is large, perhaps 10 percent of gross domestic product. In the United States, that would amount to roughly $1.4 trillion annually, to be cut from government programs or raised through new taxes.
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Banditt

Banditt

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rampagen08 said:
Administration officials and Democrats in Congress are looking to the commission for recommendations on reducing the federal debt, which is currently projected to reach 90 percent of the U.S. economy by 2020. Interest payments are forecast to quadruple to more than $900 billion annually by that year. Moody’s Investors Service has said it would consider cutting the government’s bond rating if the outlook doesn’t improve.
taken from http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aCab5yE7EhDU
its happening guys.... it sucks.. but it's happening...

When the International Monetary Fund or World Bank offer to lend money to a struggling third-world country (or “emerging market”), they demand “austerity measures“.


What Does This Have to Do With the First World?
Since the IMF and World Bank lend to third world countries, you may reasonably assume that this has nothing to do with “first world” countries like the US and UK.
But England’s economy is in dire straight, and rumors have abounded that the UK might have to rely on a loan from the IMF.
And as former U.S. Comptroller General David Walker said :
People seem to think the [American] government has money. The government doesn’t have any money.
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Sorry actually I was referring to where you read the "The government is already saying they will be taking away the constitution is this happens." part. I agree our economic situation is not good. Far from 3rd world however....
 
rampagen08

rampagen08

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rampagen08

rampagen08

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it has come out that Barack Obama does not intend to return any of the campaign contributions that he received from Goldman Sachs. And surely they will be glad to continue to pour big money into his political coffers. So where does that leave the rest of us?
Well, the rest of us can expect higher taxes and a lower standard of living according to the IMF. The IMF (which has deep connections to these megabanks) says that the party is "over" for nations that have been enjoying the good life. In a recent article, the Washington Post summarized the message that the IMF is trying to communicate through their recent policy papers....
To keep the global economy on track, people in the United States and the rest of the developed world need to work longer before retiring, pay higher taxes and expect less from government. And the cheap imports lining the shelves of mega-chains such as Wal-Mart and Target? They need to be more expensive.
So are you ready to work longer, pay higher taxes, expect less from government and have a lower standard of living?
 
rampagen08

rampagen08

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In October of this year, one month prior to the November midterm elections, a special army unit known as 'Consequence Management Response Force' will be ready for deployment on American soil if so ordered by the President.
The special force, which is the new name being given to the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry, has been training at Fort Stewart, Georgia and is composed of 80,000 troops.
According to the Army Times,
They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.​
The key phrase is 'may be called upon to help with civil unrest.'
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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The timetable is uncertain, but don't think for a second it will take a long time to slip to 3rd world status. It doesn't take long once the knives have been drawn.

The country has chosen poorly in the last election, and we are now going pedal to the metal towards being permanently insolvent.

Sucking all of the money out of the private sector is exactly the wrong thing to be doing, but as I said, the country chose poorly and now must suffer the consequences.

America does make mistakes, and our future is never guaranteed. We are on a dead end road.... make no mistake about that. Prepare yourselves, or be swept aside when it occurs.
 
rampagen08

rampagen08

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i'd suggest to everyone on rollitup to start planting not only marijuana seeds but also a whole garden full of edible fruits and vegetables... we're coming up on the time of food riots....
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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I started my gardens last year.... :wink:

Better yet...start buying property in Canada.... seriously.

If you are a producer.... staying here will be pointless.
 
Balzac89

Balzac89

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The United States will fail when no one will lend us money anymore. Without money our government would cease to exist.
 
Balzac89

Balzac89

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This Oil spill is going to make food prices sky rocket. They will be unable to stop the oil for up to two months............... Theres going to be a massive soil slick in the atlantic ocean. they are already saying it will travel up the eastern coast. It's gonig to kill alot of sea life and we will be unable to fish. Cutting a big chunk of food source. Other food items will be consumed in place of fish and prices will all increase. We have effectively fucked ourselves.
 
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