What LEDs for 3x3 tent?

sixstring2112

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It is a bit overwhelming. ha. But, as it stands my choice is between a Timber build or that amare se250 if that deal is still a thing. Which would do me best going forward and give best results. And if Timber... what model... should I go with the 400w vero or 300w cree?
this is a good light for your needs. http://timbergrowlights.com/400-watt-vero29-v7-square-framework/
take off the lenses and hang it about 20 to 24inches above the canopy and it will rock the hizzy.plus they have a functioning website and dan is not affraid to answer questions here in open forum which speaks volumes about the company. personally i prefer cree but the new veros are hard to beat right now.gl
 

RainDan

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Does Timber offer that option?
Hi @Snucks

Thanks for your post. The Vero29 Gen 7 COBs are just being seen in the aftermarket channels, and mainly at 80 CRI with 3000 and 4000K color temp right now. In about 6-8 weeks we should see more options such as 3500K and different CRI, as well as the SE style which have built in holders, eliminating the need for soldering on the chip. We will be incorporating these as they come available - they are on order as of now.

Currently everything we have for Vero Gen7 is 3000K with 4000K available on special request.

Hope this helps - have a good day.

Thanks,
Dan
 

Snucks

Member
Hi @Snucks

Thanks for your post. The Vero29 Gen 7 COBs are just being seen in the aftermarket channels, and mainly at 80 CRI with 3000 and 4000K color temp right now. In about 6-8 weeks we should see more options such as 3500K and different CRI, as well as the SE style which have built in holders, eliminating the need for soldering on the chip. We will be incorporating these as they come available - they are on order as of now.

Currently everything we have for Vero Gen7 is 3000K with 4000K available on special request.

Hope this helps - have a good day.

Thanks,
Dan
So there is no 3500k option available as of now for the vero? Is 3500k the best spectrum for a full cycle grow? If I did have to choose between the 3000k or 4000k (if there is no 3500k option?) Which would be best?
 

Danielson999

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So there is no 3500k option available as of now for the vero? Is 3500k the best spectrum for a full cycle grow? If I did have to choose between the 3000k or 4000k (if there is no 3500k option?) Which would be best?
It won't really matter. 3000k has more red for flowering but the differences are not great enough to be too concerned. I would get the 3000k but if nothing else was available I'd still have no problem using 4000k. Actually, I'm using all 4000k Vero 29 right now. Or you could get a mix of both 3000k and 4000k to effectively make 3500k :p
 

Snucks

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It won't really matter. 3000k has more red for flowering but the differences are not great enough to be too concerned. I would get the 3000k but if nothing else was available I'd still have no problem using 4000k. Actually, I'm using all 4000k Vero 29 right now. Or you could get a mix of both 3000k and 4000k to effectively make 3500k :p
Why the 3000k over the 4000k? And if I did go the half 3000k half 4000k... is there any drawbacks to that over getting all same spectrum?
 

Danielson999

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Why the 3000k over the 4000k? And if I did go the half 3000k half 4000k... is there any drawbacks to that over getting all same spectrum?
3000k over 4000k because it's slightly better for flowering which is like the money shot of growing. I'd rather have my buds finish stronger than start stronger in a sense. But we're talking small differences here.
 

Snucks

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3000k over 4000k because it's slightly better for flowering which is like the money shot of growing. I'd rather have my buds finish stronger than start stronger in a sense. But we're talking small differences here.
So getting 3000k will not affect my veg too much?
 

Danielson999

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Here's a graph showing the differences between the 3k 4k and 5k Vero 29 v7.
As you can see, the difference between the 3000k and 4000k is quite minimal. I guess that's why I chose 4000k. It does basically the same in flowering but offers a nice bump over the 3000k in veg. Just mix your cobs if you want to cover as much spectrum as possible.
 
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Danielson999

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Is it just me but there looks like a big difference in the 450 range lol
On the graph yes. Plenty of guys growing with only 3000k though. But that's why I went with 4000k although I use my light from start to finish. Some have separate veg and flower so it makes sense to buy 3000k and 5000k in that case. If you're using it throughout your whole grow then go 4000k, if it's just for flowering use 3000k.
 

Evil-Mobo

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Is it just me but there looks like a big difference in the 450 range lol
That's the part that will help you in veg. Decide how much of each color you want for each phase of growth and go from there. I went 5K for veg and 3K for flower (Cree) For the Citi's and Vero's I recommend the 4K spectrum for overall light use and you can see in the graph why. On the Cree's I'd say 3500K for overall light if you don't want too much stretch. 3K if you don't mind.

Think also about what kind of strains you grow the most (if you know) do you grow short fat Indica plants or taller Sativas? So do you want the extra stretch or not. This is what should really drive your decision in my opinion.

:peace:
 

Snucks

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On the graph yes. Plenty of guys growing with only 3000k though. But that's why I went with 4000k although I use my light from start to finish. Some have separate veg and flower so it makes sense to buy 3000k and 5000k in that case. If you're using it throughout your whole grow then go 4000k, if it's just for flowering use 3000k.
I will be using the lights from start to finish
 
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