What is Barack Obama's Economic Plan?

FreedomWorks

FreedomWorks

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90 billion in green energy subsidies. Obama wants to stop 2 billion in oil subsidies so that he can get the Solyndra thing going again.
 
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beenthere

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Samwell Seed Well said:
i do not condone my mothers business practice . . .

i do not want what she has

or to achive what she has . . . . .
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And that's the beauty of this country and the free market system, you are free to earn what makes you happy, but there is no reason not, for the millions that want to be like her!
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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see there is a reason and its my reason . .you can ignore what i want from life, not money, all you want

the right try to burn into our brians . . house, credit cards, new cars, kids, animals . . .vacations in Disney land, . .Spain . .where ever . . and thats fine . . but thats not the package i want to obtain to live by . . .i dont need to be a slave to the system in order to achieve success, and money does not correlate to success/ or happieness

wtf is so early . . . .man these Sierra Nevada torpedo pack a punch
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i still got to work
 
haight

haight

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Samwell Seed Well said:
most people who make more than 250k a year are aware of tax code credits and subsidies and reductions that overall can drop there taxable income to very little

how many tax returns have you filled out?

raises taxes on the 1% of this country will generate billions of dollars for schools, infrastructure projects and whatever else the gov needs paying off, ike the deficit, although i think congress should arest any military spending till our deficit is in control and our economy stable


both there plans kinda suck, one is super trickle down economics, and the other is a 20 sided die . . hardy boys style economics

we need a real ball buster, bring the jobs back to america stop companies from doing business overseas and getting a handout for it, make then become for fiscally responsibly to there employess and the country they claim to support
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First off those credits, deductions etc get trumped by the alterative minimum tax. Second, I haven't prepared tax returns in years but I review over a hundred every year. They are prepared by my staff accountants. Third, the reason many rich pay 15% is because their taxes are based on capital gains which isn't subject to AMT. Fourth, giving it to the schools is like throwing money down a hole. They just pay themselves more and complain if they have to buy a hunk of chalk. As to the "trickle down" rhetoric, if I got to pay more taxes than I got to give less in raises, dump somebody, and go back to a 40 hour week instead of a 35 hour week.
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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i have a builder mentality, i like to take things apart and rebuild them

start with a good foundation . . . infrastructure . . .and prospects in your youth . . . .besides immigration this is the only way i see to logically influence progress in any field/market through diverse training
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Samwell Seed Well said:
see there is a reason and its my reason . .you can ignore what i want from life, not money, all you want

the right try to burn into our brians . . house, credit cards, new cars, kids, animals . . .vacations in Disney land, . .Spain . .where ever . . and thats fine . . but thats not the package i want to obtain to live by . . .i dont need to be a slave to the system in order to achieve success, and money does not correlate to success/ or happieness

wtf is so early . . . .man these Sierra Nevada torpedo pack a punch
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i still got to work
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You can live your life whatever way you want Sam, that is your choice.

It is when you start hating on other people like your mother who live her life the way SHE wants is where you cross the line.

You dont want that done to you but you freely do it to other people. Which makes you a hater.
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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NLXSK1 said:
You can live your life whatever way you want Sam, that is your choice.

It is when you start hating on other people like your mother who live her life the way SHE wants is where you cross the line.

You dont want that done to you(judge me all you want loser) but you freely do it to other people. Which makes you a hater.
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you use the word hate

i use the word i wouldnt do that

typical reverse BS, your fallacy is showing

you cant disassociate a words meaning to its social judgement value

i dont judge her for her choices . . i just choose to do otherwise, that's the difference between us . .among other thing
 
haight

haight

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Samwell Seed Well said:
my mother didnt pay taxes at all for about 20 years . . she made less than 250 more than 175 in that time peroid, . . . . . . . . . .but i guess that is the other end of" not exactly"

funny how experience takes the driver seat to . . . .i think or maybe comments

dick drives this car
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Bullshit. Show us her tax returns.
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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Samwell Seed Well said:
you use the word hate

i use the word i wouldnt do that

typical reverse BS, your fallacy is showing

the right cant disassociate a words meaning to its social judgement value

i dont judge her for her choices . . i just choose to do otherwise, that's the difference between us . .among other thing
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NLXSK1 said:
I never said that I wouldnt judge you...
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ya i know,

you say i hated my mother,

do you know how to read,

and to be more specific can you keep up with a chronological conversation
 
haight

haight

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beenthere said:
I think you misunderstood your mother, I've never heard of anyone making over $175k and not paying taxes, not a single one and i know many! What did she do for a living if you don't mind me asking?
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Strippers and hoes don't pay taxes cuz they work "under the table." yuk yuk
 
haight

haight

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Samwell Seed Well said:
i dont want the Romney band aid . .. and im not sure if Obama, can campiagn on legislature that is not working as predicted and not guaranteed to be in effect after his second term . . . . .

we dont need a quick fix and we dont need" ill do this" concepts . . . we need to change the way we structure our economy, money should be made here and should stay here not go overseas for a cheaper cost or wage

untill american corporations and business bring their business infrastructure back to america we will be perpetually in crisis
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The economic term for this is - Beggar your neighbor
 
Ringsixty

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Samwell Seed Well said:
she was a consultant, owned a consulting firm

when i was younger and she would be getting info and documents together for her accountant, she would always say, the trick is to get your taxable in come as low as possible and to have paper trail to prove it

i could have misconstrued this comment as i used it as my "no tax" example , i know she has paid some taxes, but i also know she has meet her goal many times
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Never use your mother for an example.

So, what you are saying is that your mother was smart enough to take advantage of the tax code under the Law.
Which you had directly or indirectly benefited while being raised by her.
How interesting
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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Ringsixty said:
Never use your mother for an example.

So, what you are saying is that your mother was smart enough to take advantage of the tax code under the Law.
Which you had directly or indirectly benefited while being raised by her.
How interesting
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never use real life as a example . . . . .

check

forgot i was in prep school here with all the 12 year old, 18 years olds

yes as a child as a dependent i benifted . . . . . .and im against it . . . is this hard for you

my life wasnt any differnt than any of my friends who lived in wealthier or pooer households
 
haight

haight

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NoDrama said:
I bet you weren't aware that in India a rupee buys a lot more than a dollar does here. A big mac in India costs about $1.50 in Rupees. You can't just convert their money into ours and say "hey they only make $6,000 a year." sure, maybe they do, but it has the purchasing power of someone making $30,000 a year. Do you get it?
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And there are no real estate taxes. But there is also no workmens comp so if you get hurt on the job you're on your own. "If they work they pay them, if they don't, they don't"
 
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