What is Barack Obama's Economic Plan?

SirGreenThumb

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Obama plan is to keep taxes the same for those making less than $250,000 a year and increase them for those who make more.
Questions about this ????
Pardon if I do this wrong, but it seems to me that those who make more money a year get taxed higher at the same rate regardless of having to raise their tax rate.
For example:
250,000 x 0.30% = 75,000
275,000 x 0.30% = 82,500

Ok, just by these two examples, it shows that when you make more per year you get taxed more. Even at the same rate.
So what's the point in raising taxes again?
 

Samwell Seed Well

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most people who make more than 250k a year are aware of tax code credits and subsidies and reductions that overall can drop there taxable income to very little

how many tax returns have you filled out?

raises taxes on the 1% of this country will generate billions of dollars for schools, infrastructure projects and whatever else the gov needs paying off, ike the deficit, although i think congress should arest any military spending till our deficit is in control and our economy stable


both there plans kinda suck, one is super trickle down economics, and the other is a 20 sided die . . hardy boys style economics

we need a real ball buster, bring the jobs back to america stop companies from doing business overseas and getting a handout for it, make then become for fiscally responsibly to there employess and the country they claim to support
 

londonfog

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Yes, two please and thank you.

Exactly what tax is he talking about here?

What percentage of, only that "tax", is accounted for in the total revenue required to operate the US gov't under this "plan"?
adjusted gross income...42% is what the income tax gives to the government revenue...

Now one detail of the Romney plan please
 

londonfog

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Pardon if I do this wrong, but it seems to me that those who make more money a year get taxed higher at the same rate regardless of having to raise their tax rate.
For example:
250,000 x 0.30% = 75,000
275,000 x 0.30% = 82,500

Ok, just by these two examples, it shows that when you make more per year you get taxed more. Even at the same rate.
So what's the point in raising taxes again?
the rise will be about 3 percent more on households that bring in 250,000 take home. Obama just wants to raise the level back to how Clinton had it..before baby Bush came and screw everything up.
 

SirGreenThumb

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most people who make more than 250k a year are aware of tax code credits and subsidies and reductions that overall can drop there taxable in come to very little

how many tx returns have you filled out?
So in other words. Just because someone uses credits and subsidies they should be taxed more because they were smart enough to do so? Hmm. Ok.
And my tax returns are irrelevant to the matter at hand. I make way less that 250k.
 

SirGreenThumb

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the rise will be about 3 percent more on households that bring in 250,000 take home. Obama just wants to raise the level back to how Clinton had it..before baby Bush came and screw everything up.
3% extra tax on take home pay? Whoa. I would feel raped. :lol:
I thought these figures were before what you take home not after. I'm totally out of the loop here. Eh. Doesn't effect me. I was just curious. Anything math scares me. :dunce:
 

SirGreenThumb

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most people who make more than 250k a year are aware of tax code credits and subsidies and reductions that overall can drop there taxable income to very little

how many tax returns have you filled out?

raises taxes on the 1% of this country will generate billions of dollars for schools, infrastructure projects and whatever else the gov needs paying off, ike the deficit, although i think congress should arest any military spending till our deficit is in control and our economy stable


both there plans kinda suck, one is super trickle down economics, and the other is a 20 sided die . . hardy boys style economics

we need a real ball buster, bring the jobs back to america stop companies from doing business overseas and getting a handout for it, make then become for fiscally responsibly to there employess and the country they claim to support
You totally added more text to this post. :lol:
 

ginwilly

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Sorry didn't see this thread..

I will give details on Obama's economic plan only if we match with Romney's detail.. I will go first remember Quid pro quo.
First up for the Obama details of his economy plan is.

Obama plan is to keep taxes the same for those making less than $250,000 a year and increase them for those who make more.
Questions about this ????

If not please provide one detailed plan from Romney on economy




I think this man explains why that's a bad plan pretty well. This was said at a time when growth was much stronger than it is now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uoE_NicaMY

Sorry for not embedding, for some reason my browser wouldn't finish the action.
 

TheMan13

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raises taxes on the 1% of this country will generate billions of dollars ...
You do realize O is burning through BILLIONS of dollars per day, has been for four years now and has no plan to stop that fact.

Did O not say that he would have already cut the deficit in half, or he gets the boot as he should? WTF is is story today? Is this not absurd to you?
 

canndo

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You do realize O is burning through BILLIONS of dollars per day, has been for four years now and has no plan to stop that fact.

Did O not say that he would have already cut the deficit in half, or he gets the boot as he should? WTF is is story today? Is this not absurd to you?

Obama said he would cut the deficit in half - he did not. Romney says he will reduce it but doesn't tell us how. Is that good enough for you?
 

TheMan13

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adjusted gross income...42% is what the income tax gives to the government revenue...

Now one detail of the Romney plan please
Are you referring to a federal income tax form here? What is the definition of ignorance please ...

Just provide us a budget and we'll go from there. Whos ass do you intend this smoke for?

No Budget = No "Economic Plan" then, now or what ever "Forward" means today ...

If this is untrue please by all means explain! How might one build anything without a foundation is beyond reason.
 

SirGreenThumb

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I don't know about any of you, but I myself don't have an issue finding work in my profession. Jobs are there for those who apply. Some just need to lower their standards and stop looking for handouts. I was also effected by Obama sticking his nose into the auto industry.

"I was laid off from GM and was never called to return"

The only thing good that came out of it for me, was it gave me an incentive to continue my education. Granted I didn't want to work doing manual labor for the rest of my life, but it would have been nice to have that job while going back to college.
 

TheMan13

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I don't know about any of you, but I myself don't have an issue finding work in my profession. Jobs are there for those who apply. Some just need to lower their standards and stop looking for handouts. I was also effected by Obama sticking his nose into the auto industry.

"I was laid off from GM and was never called to return"

The only thing good that came out of it for me, was it gave me an incentive to continue my education. Granted I didn't want to work doing manual labor for the rest of my life, but it would have been nice to have that job while going back to college.
Any chance you'll be coming to live here in Detroit or O's hometown and send your children to school? See a problem with O's "Economic Plan" now? Consider yourself lucky to not be a victim yet!
 

SirGreenThumb

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Any chance you'll be coming to live here in Detroit or O's hometown and send your children to school? See a problem with O's "Economic Plan" now? Consider yourself lucky to not be a victim yet!
No plan to move to Detroit or Chicago. Nor am I planning on sending my kids to either. They can attend a state college just like myself. :wink:
 

londonfog

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Perhaps we'll get somewhere with this approach!
The way our U.S. income tax brackets work is that taxes are levied on marginal income. Do you understand what marginal income means. I have to say not because you would have not asked that question if you did. Obama does want to raise taxes 3 percent on those who make 250,000 and above... the rate applied to income earned over the $250,000 threshold is irrelevant to the first $250,000 worth of taxable income. If you have $250,010 of taxable earnings then only that last $10 is taxed at the higher rate. so your small business tax does not raise for the whole 250,000 only whats after the 250,000.
 

londonfog

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Are you referring to a federal income tax form here? What is the definition of ignorance please ...

Just provide us a budget and we'll go from there. Whos ass do you intend this smoke for?

No Budget = No "Economic Plan" then, now or what ever "Forward" means today ...

If this is untrue please by all means explain! How might one build anything without a foundation is beyond reason.
are you going to provide a detail plan of Romney or are you going to keep just spouting nonsense
 

nontheist

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I think this man explains why that's a bad plan pretty well. This was said at a time when growth was much stronger than it is now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uoE_NicaMY

Sorry for not embedding, for some reason my browser wouldn't finish the action.
I would like to say just about everyone you talk to about raising taxes will say it will more than likely dip us back into recession or make it worse depending on your view. Hell even Clinton said it was a very bad idea, he stands behind Obama but he has said many times raising taxes could backlash.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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So in other words. Just because someone uses credits and subsidies they should be taxed more because they were smart enough to do so? Hmm. Ok.
And my tax returns are irrelevant to the matter at hand. I make way less that 250k.
those tax cuts and credits are not available to you and me my friend . . . .

id say thats pretty unbalanced, as cost of living is going up but the only people matching or beating inflation are the rich . . . . the system is meant to be balanced it is not

and only reason why i ask about the tax returns is that is that someone who has never had to payed taxes would have little understanding of how the tax code works, and or tax loop code works

having a computer program or some random employee do your taxes gives you little experience to someone who sits there and fills out and reads the tax code for the 1040a form, the form i have used most often
 
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