What does it mean to be organic?

DonBrennon

DonBrennon

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Shit...........that reminds me, I noticed my bottle of fish hydrolysate was bulging before and thought I'll burp that later. I best go do it now before I've got a nasty mess, I made it at Xmas and it's still alive now
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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DonBrennon said:
Shit...........that reminds me, I noticed my bottle of fish hydrolysate was bulging before and thought I'll burp that later. I best go do it now before I've got a nasty mess, I made it at Xmas and it's still alive now
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Dude.. She's going to fucking blow.

(Good example of organics that are liquid. Teas are organic, as well, obviously.)
 
Richard Drysift

Richard Drysift

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sunny747 said:
Can a person grow organic MJ using Fox Farms and Bottled Nutes or do they have to start with peat and amend or something to that affect?

I use Fox Farms or Roots Organic plus GH Floronova nutes. The clerk at the hydro store was telling me that Floronova is basically organic, but they didn't want to pay for the testing and licensing. Maybe it's true, maybe he was just trying to sell me product.

Am I organic or not or sort of?

Thanks
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It was floronova that killed the fungi in my containers and sent my plants into tailspin for weeks. It's too much for living soil; which is what organic growing is: allowing the living microbeasts in the dirt feed your plants instead of force feeding them a cocktail of nutrients. I listened to the grow store dude too and just a single dose of that stuff was enough to tip the fragile balance of life that was keeping my plants healthy. They did recover with straight water after a couple weeks but the yield really suffered. Don't use that shit if you are trying to grow in natural soil as the fungal life that helps the roots absorb nutrient from the soil just can't take the hi P & K and shuts down. The idea is to put what they need in the soil globally and just give water; the plants use what they need when they need it instead of everything all at once all the time as with using bottled nutes.
 
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Strictly organic

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Im telling you now that bio bizz is organic you simply can not put 100% organic on packaging if its not organic it's false advertising and when you can factually state what preseratives are in it then I might beleive you bio bizz is a sugar/mollases based nutrient
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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Strictly organic said:
Im telling you now that bio bizz is organic you simply can not put 100% organic on packaging if its not organic it's false advertising and when you can factually state what preseratives are in it then I might beleive you bio bizz is a sugar/mollases based nutrient
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Under OMRI guidelines, inorganic (syntethic) are allowed to a certain threshold, here is an excerpt from their website


4.1 Additional Standards for Crop Fertilizers and Soil Amendments Certain substances appearing in the PSL may use synthetic substances as extractants, but OMRI does not allow extractants to be used in greater quantities than are necessary for extraction. OMRI has developed thresholds for these substances used in crop production, and products that exceed these thresholds and that may be fortified with plant nutrients such as nitrogen, phosphorous, and/or potassium will be prohibited.

http://www.omri.org/omri-lists

So yeah, those bottled nutrients got synthetics in them, stay away if possible.
 
DonBrennon

DonBrennon

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Yodaweed said:
Under OMRI guidelines, inorganic (syntethic) are allowed to a certain threshold, here is an excerpt from their website


4.1 Additional Standards for Crop Fertilizers and Soil Amendments Certain substances appearing in the PSL may use synthetic substances as extractants, but OMRI does not allow extractants to be used in greater quantities than are necessary for extraction. OMRI has developed thresholds for these substances used in crop production, and products that exceed these thresholds and that may be fortified with plant nutrients such as nitrogen, phosphorous, and/or potassium will be prohibited.

http://www.omri.org/omri-lists

So yeah, those bottled nutrients got synthetics in them, stay away if possible.
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Now I disagree with you Yoda, did you not read the other, later, post I made about Biobizz's organic certifications, OMRI might not mean shit, but the ones I posted DO!!!!!
 
DonBrennon

DonBrennon

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Man must have been preserving organic materials for thousands of years in one way or another.........way before synthetics were even a concept........................so, yes organic materials can be preserved organically without the addition of chemicals, just because it's in a bottle, doesn't mean it's artificially preserved.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Olive Drab Green said:
GDP. I harvested a week early, due to mistaking springtail larvae for root aphids.
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looks even earlier than that man, i'd say you have at least another two weeks on that one, at least
I HATE pulling early...
I had to do that on one of the grapegods I had this last run. the difference in potency from the grapegods that went fully mature and this one were HUGE, and that was only like 10 days early
 
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