What constitutes a "hermie"?

Which of the following is your cutoff for a "hermie" and thus not worth keeping?

  • Any nanners whatsoever

    Votes: 6 42.9%

  • A few nanners here and there late in flower

    Votes: 1 7.1%

  • Some sacks

    Votes: 2 14.3%

  • An explosion of nanners all over

    Votes: 2 14.3%

  • Mixed clusters of male and female flowers

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • Total voters
    14
Observe & Report

Observe & Report

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Nobody wants a hermie and I appreciate it when folks warn about seeds they've run. However, I wonder how much tolerance for intersex expression others have and want to get a sense of what people might be thinking when they say they had trouble with seeds.

Almost everything I've run has popped a nanner or two. I think it must be super common in today's gene pool, though I admit I still have a long ways to go in developing my skills. How much intersex expression are you willing to tolerate?
 
Bareback

Bareback

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Idk what exactly constitutes Hermie. But I have a strain that throws nanners late every time. And I have some seeds that came from a breeder in CO, golden goat, and when it hermed , 3 weeks in flower it was ball sacks and plant viginas everywhere.
 
Jimmyjonestoo

Jimmyjonestoo

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A couple here and there, if they stay away once plucked, I'm okay with. If they continue to return or overwhelm the plant, it goes.
 
23Jumpman23

23Jumpman23

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I've dealt with naners, late in flower with my old skywalker when my temps would creep in the summer... no big deal to me ..... this run i was just searching for something different in bagseed and dealt with true hermies for the first time. Pretty crazy when you see pistils and think your golden and then next day see huge ball sacs everywhere.
 
23Jumpman23

23Jumpman23

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MoonTang420 said:
That was result of the hermy hitting your flower room? Are they considered feminised ? Or hermys that throw a few fems
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Yes those are hermie babies. This run was around 60% female, rest hermed. I just like to test the waters if I have any bean to pop, just to see what it is.
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Hermie proof strains do not exsist.

Hermies are the result of an independant protein, it plays no part in sex determination but merely influences it (so it goes). Hermies in the wild are an awesome survival trick through periods of bad years, one might say its hardwired into every plant and strain.

I for one welcome a bit of free seed, ill cross one hermie with another if i can. That said its not that common thesedays forcing me to scrounge or buy them :-)
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Kingrow1 said:
Hermie proof strains do not exsist.

Hermies are the result of an independant protein, it plays no part in sex determination but merely influences it (so it goes). Hermies in the wild are an awesome survival trick through periods of bad years, one might say its hardwired into every plant and strain.

I for one welcome a bit of free seed, ill cross one hermie with another if i can. That said its not that common thesedays forcing me to scrounge or buy them :-)
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Bullshit. If you get hermies that often, something is wrong.
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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ttystikk said:
Bullshit. If you get hermies that often, something is wrong.
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Ive been agreeing with this point for years :-)

If you do have a 100% hermie proof strain i would happily bring it to market for you, make us both a ton of money.

I often think if one finds they get a lot of hermies then grow an easier more stress resistant strain.

I hope that clears it up :-)
 
M

morvis

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On the topic of hermies, I've often wondered - how do SJW minded libskee growers reconcile the idea of a hermaphrodite being a "bad thing" that needs to be culled from the herd and having them show up is an indication of problems? It must be quite the internal conflict.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Observe & Report said:
Nobody wants a hermie and I appreciate it when folks warn about seeds they've run. However, I wonder how much tolerance for intersex expression others have and want to get a sense of what people might be thinking when they say they had trouble with seeds.

Almost everything I've run has popped a nanner or two. I think it must be super common in today's gene pool, though I admit I still have a long ways to go in developing my skills. How much intersex expression are you willing to tolerate?
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???? Fix your environment! You shouldn't be getting "herms".....

ttystikk said:
Bullshit. If you get hermies that often, something is wrong.
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BINGO THAT!

I don't understand you guys and your thought's on "unstable" genetic's causing herming......
I have a Black Russian from Delicious seeds that's fun and popular around here. I've run this strain for 6 years. I have sold or traded cuts to many friends......A neighbor has it from me. Not to long ago we had an 18hr power outage. His BR's threw naners. He asked me to come over and see what was causing it......(mine did not). I found he had other stress issues too. High N, pH was low on his in-going (not enough to really show in the plant but, the swing time for the soil recovery increases)...

Conclusion: The stress problem from the lights out time, combined with the other stress factors. Made the plant decide the growing environment changed enough to signal it to go into "rush to reproduce" mode!

Control your environment = No "herming"!
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

Well-Known Member
Dr. Who said:
???? Fix your environment! You shouldn't be getting "herms".....



BINGO THAT!

I don't understand you guys and your thought's on "unstable" genetic's causing herming......
I have a Black Russian from Delicious seeds that's fun and popular around here. I've run this strain for 6 years. I have sold or traded cuts to many friends......A neighbor has it from me. Not to long ago we had an 18hr power outage. His BR's threw naners. He asked me to come over and see what was causing it......(mine did not). I found he had other stress issues too. High N, pH was low on his in-going (not enough to really show in the plant but, the swing time for the soil recovery increases)...

Conclusion: The stress problem from the lights out time, combined with the other stress factors. Made the plant decide the growing environment changed enough to signal it to go into "rush to reproduce" mode!

Control your environment = No "herming"!
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Its heavily debated by some although i too have always supported this and hated that unstable genetics crap that gets thrown about.
 
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