WALMART first it closes the Local mom and pops by coming - Now leaves those towns high and dry!

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TokingQueen420

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Living out in no where PA, I don't blame Wal-mart at all for the stores closing here. I mean I drive 20-25 mins to wal-mart if needed. I blame the towns and the people running them who were looking for handouts from Walmart to help with taxes, rebuilding towns,etc, and I blame all my neighbors for giving up on their local stores to drive the extra miles to save a few dollars. Only a few. Everyone knew these wal-mart express stores were a test for a few years and they didn't work out. Don't blame them, blame your neighbors, people in ur town, and local governments. Wal-mart didn't put the ma and pa stores out the people did by not supporting who we know etc. what the town was built on. Now a days people could care less and always trying to save a penny.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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TokingQueen420 said:
Living out in no where PA, I don't blame Wal-mart at all for the stores closing here. I mean I drive 20-25 mins to wal-mart if needed. I blame the towns and the people running them who were looking for handouts from Walmart to help with taxes, rebuilding towns,etc, and I blame all my neighbors for giving up on their local stores to drive the extra miles to save a few dollars. Only a few. Everyone knew these wal-mart express stores were a test for a few years and they didn't work out. Don't blame them, blame your neighbors, people in ur town, and local governments. Wal-mart didn't put the ma and pa stores out the people did by not supporting who we know etc. what the town was built on. Now a days people could care less and always trying to save a penny.
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In a truly free market these things would not be as impactful as they are in the present. At the source of the problem, there is government protectionism combined with corporate welfare.

Walmart can only be Walmart because government enables it.
 
TubePot

TubePot

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Corso312 said:
I don't have any empathy for those businesses that went under, they price gouged for a long time n had a nice run.. Ever go into an ace hardware? Home depot- menards- Lowes are half their price.

Even handy Andy went belly up, it happens to everyone..they run their course and get replaced.
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LOL, Price gouged? How?? Mom and pops don't have walmart buying power. You have zero clue till a home depot opens 8 blocks from your Hardware store. Price gouging. LMAO
 
Corso312

Corso312

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Rob Roy said:
It's never been a "defense budget" in the first place. It's a money extraction game.

It seems rather contradictory to use threats of force against the people purported to being the defended when seeking funding for "defense" protection.

You see once the "defender" uses a threat of force for his expenses he ceases to be a defender and has assumed a role of thug.

So logically any defense expenditures should be borne by people making a mutual and voluntary choice, wouldn't you say?
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Its called "defense" but I agree with you, I was laughing this morning @ something I saw on TV.. Was a history program about the end of ww2 .. Churchill n Stalin signing an agreement how Europe will be divided up between Communism and Pro West territory... Churchill didn't tell the U.S. about the agreement because he knew how outraged the U.S. would be about Interfering with foreign policy :lol:

Maybe that's where we learned it from.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Corso312 said:
Its called "defense" but I agree with you, I was laughing this morning @ something I saw on TV.. Was a history program about the end of ww2 .. Churchill n Stalin signing an agreement how Europe will be divided up between Communism and Pro West territory... Churchill didn't tell the U.S. about the agreement because he knew how outraged the U.S. would be about Interfering with foreign policy :lol:

Maybe that's where we learned it from.
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Public schools routinely teach that obedience to authority is a higher value than freedom and kind human relations.
I think it isn't learned so much as it is instilled with an intended purpose.


Thank you for agreeing with me regards what "defense spending" really is.

Hey was that you running naked yesterday in the super market?
 
Corso312

Corso312

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TubePot said:
LOL, Price gouged? How?? Mom and pops don't have walmart buying power. You have zero clue till a home depot opens 8 blocks from your Hardware store. Price gouging. LMAO
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I use a local hardware store if I'm spending 15$ or less.. But I'll drive the extra 20 minutes to Menard's or the depot for large purchases.. Its worth the time and gas to save 20% and have a wider selection.
 
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ChesusRice

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Corso312 said:
I use a local hardware store if I'm spending 15$ or less.. But I'll drive the extra 20 minutes to Menard's or the depot for large purchases.. Its worth the time and gas to save 20% and have a wider selection.
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Local Ace Hardware has more selection on obscure items I need. Like stainless steel socket head cap screws, or door and cabinet hardware Ace employees also know their products
 
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Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ChesusRice said:
Local Ace Hardware has more selection on obscure items I need. Like stainless steel socket head cap screws, or door and cabinet hardware Ace employees also know their products
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Okay, I'll bite. You quoted me, but offered no clue as to why....that's no way to open an argument and has left me with debater blue balls.

Please elaborate on the purpose of the quote.
 
Corso312

Corso312

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I had a great hardware store that closed after the owner died, his kid was useless and it lasted about a year. Great for a 60 year old faucet part or random hard to find oddball things. I refuse to give Ace my money, i was in a jam aboutv5 years ago n needed a 6' ladder.. Ace was only option or drive 45 minutes each way to Lowes.. Those scumbags got me for 100$ for a 6' fibreglass ladder that costs half that everywhere else..
 
TubePot

TubePot

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Corso312 said:
I use a local hardware store if I'm spending 15$ or less.. But I'll drive the extra 20 minutes to Menard's or the depot for large purchases.. Its worth the time and gas to save 20% and have a wider selection.
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Then don't complain when you have to drive 20 mins for a 1/4 pound of 10D nails or a 10 cent washer when the mom and pop closed down, yes I said 1/4 pound of nails. I sold nails buy the pound NOT by the box.
BTW, if I see your mug in my store often and you asked, a 20% discount would not be a problem on most items.

Corso312 said:
I had a great hardware store that closed after the owner died, his kid was useless and it lasted about a year. Great for a 60 year old faucet part or random hard to find oddball things. I refuse to give Ace my money, i was in a jam aboutv5 years ago n needed a 6' ladder.. Ace was only option or drive 45 minutes each way to Lowes.. Those scumbags got me for 100$ for a 6' fibreglass ladder that costs half that everywhere else..
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How much is a hour and a half of your time worth?
I paid 4.59 for a 15 oz jar of mayo last week at the corner deli when I could have gotten in my car and hit the Walmart or Trader Joes 10 min each way and pay 3.00 bucks for a 64 on jar.
 
Corso312

Corso312

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They got me, but a year and a half later a home depot opened up about 5 minutes from my aunts house..so I doubt that Ace is still even in business. I hope they went belly up.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Corso312 said:
How about we slash the defense budget by 75% and fix the tax code and pay debts owed.
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Lets get rid of the department of energy ( and all subsidies including ethanol, oil, electric, green), The department of Education, Kill the grant program for all the arts, etc... And you got my attention. I think 75% may bee too much to start with the defense department but if you could find equal cuts elsewhere I could be talked into 50% cut from them. Phase it in over time and simply not enlist people as they rotate out of the service (so you dont put another couple hundred thousand people on the unemployment line all at once).

Make the tax code a flat sales tax that encourages savings and investment while saving billions in accounting charges.

Congress would cut it's balls off before giving up that much power though...
 
D528

D528

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Couldnt pay me to shop at that place. Part of that amazing u.s. finacial recovery i take it ,,, lol.
 
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ChesusRice

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NLXSK1 said:
Lets get rid of the department of energy ( and all subsidies including ethanol, oil, electric, green), The department of Education, Kill the grant program for all the arts, etc... And you got my attention. I think 75% may bee too much to start with the defense department but if you could find equal cuts elsewhere I could be talked into 50% cut from them. Phase it in over time and simply not enlist people as they rotate out of the service (so you dont put another couple hundred thousand people on the unemployment line all at once).

Make the tax code a flat sales tax that encourages savings and investment while saving billions in accounting charges.

Congress would cut it's balls off before giving up that much power though...
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What's your beef with the EPA and The dept of education?
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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NLXSK1 said:
Lets get rid of the department of energy ( and all subsidies including ethanol, oil, electric, green), The department of Education, Kill the grant program for all the arts, etc... And you got my attention. I think 75% may bee too much to start with the defense department but if you could find equal cuts elsewhere I could be talked into 50% cut from them. Phase it in over time and simply not enlist people as they rotate out of the service (so you dont put another couple hundred thousand people on the unemployment line all at once).

Make the tax code a flat sales tax that encourages savings and investment while saving billions in accounting charges.

Congress would cut it's balls off before giving up that much power though...
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There are zero credible economists who support that nonsense
 
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