Union Teachers Say The Hell With Students

george xxx

Active Member
Weren't we all told that teachers chose their career for the love of teaching and the rewards of helping children.

The facts below seem to prove otherwise, so who is looking out for the kids best interest, obviously it sure isn't the teachers or the unions.




You are apparently Lost In Space or perhaps unable to escape The Twilight Zone :!:
No:?:
Then you must have been born 50 years too late for any thoughts of that bull to apply.
The Unions, corporate America and the Feds have all made it quite clear that the only politically correct method for success is to exploit the system for maxium profit at any cost. Build a new stadium if you want but do not teach. Some schools have cancelled penmanship classes because no one writes any more. Since no one writes who needs english classes. When was the last time you saw a high school grad that could actually read:?: Math teachers do not teach anything beyond how to punch a calculator. Problem solving is no longer taught. The most important rule in math now days is having the best calculator available so that you do not have to figure out how to solve problems.

Since reading, writting and arithmetic are no longer taught why should a teachers number one priority be anything other than MONEY :dunce:
 

beenthere

New Member
While the average family in the city only earns $47,000 a year these greedy SOB's average $75k a year and that's not enough.

Out of every new dollar set aside for public education in Illinois in the last five years, 71 cents has gone to teacher retirement costs. Only about 60% of Chicago high school students graduate compared with national average of 75%. And 4 out of 10 Chicago teachers send their own kids to private schools!

All this while the state of Illinois has $83billion in unfunded public pensions.

Remember Wisconsin!

 

canndo

Well-Known Member
Weren't we all told that teachers chose their career for the love of teaching and the rewards of helping children.

The facts below seem to prove otherwise, so who is looking out for the kids best interest, obviously it sure isn't the teachers or the unions.

Yeah, long live public unions!
Bain capital folk don't care about the thousands they put out of work, after all, its about the money - and that is ok for the right.

Doctors never really got into medicine to help others, they got in in order to make money - and that's ok for the right.


In fact, the purpose of working at all, to the right, is to profit, to make money,to earn a decent living.

Oil companies are entitled to all the profit they can wring out of consumers no matter what the cost to society

Health care companies are certainly entitled to pay thir CEOs tens of millions of dollars while refusing heart transplant operations to their clients on the grounds that they didn't report having had canker sores as a teen.

Yes, it is laudable to make money at the expense of others.


Except for the scientists who are lying because they want the grant money
Or those who write books condemning the right, because they are only in it for the cash and must therfore be lying
Or the Lawyers who are blood suckers, doing anything for a dime.
Or the teachers who should not be looking after their own bottom line. They should only in the business for the students.


You folks really should get your story straight.
 

beenthere

New Member
Bain capital folk don't care about the thousands they put out of work, after all, its about the money - and that is ok for the right.

You folks really should get your story straight.
Well this story is about the Chicago teachers and their unions, why don't you practice what you preach and get this story straight and quit trying to avoid it!

Let's hear your opinions on this topic, canndon't.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
Well this story is about the Chicago teachers and their unions, why don't you practice what you preach and get this story straight and quit trying to avoid it!

Let's hear your opinions on this topic, canndon't.

You took my post out of context beenthere. I attempted to show the duplicitous nature of the right's worship of the "job creators".

I believe that collective bargaining is a reasonable method of securing decent pay and benifits for anyone willing to assemble to that effect.
 

beenthere

New Member
You took my post out of context beenthere. I attempted to show the duplicitous nature of the right's worship of the "job creators".

I believe that collective bargaining is a reasonable method of securing decent pay and benifits for anyone willing to assemble to that effect.
No, I didn't take your post out of context, I knew right away what you were attempting to do.
I asked you to opine on this topic, not generalize on collective bargaining.
And you accuse me of avoidance! LOL
 

Corso312

Well-Known Member
I am also a product of Chicago public schooling..and it sucks...worst in the country, not an opinion but a fact...I know it is a hard job..I could not do it...but there is too much fat that needs to e cut from this system...The funding is not the problem it is the parents or lack of parenting and fat lazy teachers who don't give a fuck.Now is not the time to make any demands in this awful economy ..especially since you are the absolute bottom feeder in the entire country at your profession.
 

Corso312

Well-Known Member
Let it also be know that Emanual (mayor) got about 10 million in donations from private school donors...and he is attempting to privatize the whole school system.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
No, I didn't take your post out of context, I knew right away what you were attempting to do.
I asked you to opine on this topic, not generalize on collective bargaining.
And you accuse me of avoidance! LOL

It wasn't about collective bargaining, it was about the hypocricy of the right.

In particular, the teachers take issue with tying test scores with their pay or ability to work. I think it is difficult to judge a teacher's performance based upon thhe performance of students when there are so many other variables - don't you?
 

deprave

New Member
Weren't we all told that teachers chose their career for the love of teaching and the rewards of helping children.

The facts below seem to prove otherwise, so who is looking out for the kids best interest, obviously it sure isn't the teachers or the unions.

Yeah, long live public unions!



"Chicago teachers already make an average $75,000. That's more than other big city teachers earn, AND much more than Chicago's private school teachers get ($50,000). Because the teachers only work part of the year, they make more per hour than architects, nurses and accountants. When they do work, they don't work long hours. Even though most bring work home, the Bureau of Labor Statistics says the average public school teacher works only 36.5 hours a week.


The Chicago union doesn't want its teachers judged by their students' performance. I understand why. Ninety-three percent of the teachers are rated either "Superior" or Excellent". The kids don't do as well: 80% of eighth graders are "not proficient" in math.
Union teachers know that many of their colleagues aren't great teachers. Only 12% of American students attend private schools, but, 39% of Chicago public school teachers send their children to private schools. Anti school-choice politicians are no less hypocritical: President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Jesse Jackson, Hillary Clinton and Al Gore (to name just a few) all send or sent their children to private schools.
Now thousands of Chicago children are kept out of school. Your supermarkets and movie theaters aren't closed because of strikes. That's because private companies have competition. Government monopolies don't."


Whats your problem with teachers being payed? 50k is practically minimum wage these days. You suggest paying them less is the solution? I don't get it, your not looking at the problem, which has nothing to do with salary.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Now is not the time to make any demands in this awful economy ..especially since you are the absolute bottom feeder in the entire country at your profession.
except that we not raise the millionaire's tax. that is one demand being held firm right now.

and i had no idea teachers were "bottom feeders". learn something new every day from the right.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Whats your problem with teachers being payed? 50k is practically minimum wage these days. You suggest paying them less is the solution? I don't get it.
what do you mean deprave?? teachers should get paid in peanuts and athletes should make millions for running around on a field.. sounds about right to me..

btw, my sister is a teacher an only makes about $50k a year or so.
 
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