Union Teachers Say The Hell With Students

beenthere

New Member
Weren't we all told that teachers chose their career for the love of teaching and the rewards of helping children.

The facts below seem to prove otherwise, so who is looking out for the kids best interest, obviously it sure isn't the teachers or the unions.

Yeah, long live public unions!



"Chicago teachers already make an average $75,000. That's more than other big city teachers earn, AND much more than Chicago's private school teachers get ($50,000). Because the teachers only work part of the year, they make more per hour than architects, nurses and accountants. When they do work, they don't work long hours. Even though most bring work home, the Bureau of Labor Statistics says the average public school teacher works only 36.5 hours a week.


The Chicago union doesn't want its teachers judged by their students' performance. I understand why. Ninety-three percent of the teachers are rated either "Superior" or Excellent". The kids don't do as well: 80% of eighth graders are "not proficient" in math.
Union teachers know that many of their colleagues aren't great teachers. Only 12% of American students attend private schools, but, 39% of Chicago public school teachers send their children to private schools. Anti school-choice politicians are no less hypocritical: President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Jesse Jackson, Hillary Clinton and Al Gore (to name just a few) all send or sent their children to private schools.
Now thousands of Chicago children are kept out of school. Your supermarkets and movie theaters aren't closed because of strikes. That's because private companies have competition. Government monopolies don't."


 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
you are aware that teachers work much longer than the time they are at school, right? they have papers to grade and lesson plans to review.

and i hope you're aware that teachers "time off" is filled with keeping themselves current, getting new certs, planning new curriculums and the like.

not to mention those that also help with extra-curriculur activities like coaching, field trips, clubs, and the like.

but god forbid they get a cost of living raise. it's not like it's super expensive to live close in to a major urban area or anything. rent is cheap in the middle of chicago :dunce:
 

ChesusRice

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you are aware that teachers work much longer than the time they are at school, right? they have papers to grade and lesson plans to review.

and i hope you're aware that teachers "time off" is filled with keeping themselves current, getting new certs, planning new curriculums and the like.

not to mention those that also help with extra-curriculur activities like coaching, field trips, clubs, and the like.

but god forbid they get a cost of living raise. it's not like it's super expensive to live close in to a major urban area or anything. rent is cheap in the middle of chicago :dunce:
Are you also Aware that in Chicago they extended the school day and the school year but didnt give any pay raise for it?
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
I am a product of the Chicago public school system, so you might want to rethink your support, UB, judging by the hurtful things you say about me.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I am a product of the Chicago public school system, so you might want to rethink your support, UB, judging by the hurtful things you say about me.
if you weren't such a race baiting dick, i wouldn't call you one.

go cry in your corn flakes.
 

hydgrow

Well-Known Member
I live right here were it's happening. It's bullshit IMO. I wish that they would just fire those fucking teachers because I guarantee their are others standing in line begging to have a job that pays even a fraction of what these teachers make. If the teachers are so unhappy they should quit so others can work. I hate the unions anymore here in Chicago.
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
bet you voted for Harold Washington
right?
Nah, I was out of Chicago by the time he came along. Richard J Daley, all the way. I left Chicago the day after I turned 18, bound for army basic training. I came back after getting out and attended University of Illinois at the circle campus.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Nah, I was out of Chicago by the time he came along. Richard J Daley, all the way. I left Chicago the day after I turned 18, bound for army basic training. I came back after getting out and attended University of Illinois at the circle campus.
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GO Bears!!
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
if you weren't such a race baiting dick, i wouldn't call you one.

go cry in your corn flakes.

I would think you would be more grateful for my presence. Forceful opponents should make you stronger, UB. Without guys like me this place would be an echo chamber, with only the the sounds of lefties slurping and the occasional orgasm.
 

squarepush3r

Well-Known Member
Weren't we all told that teachers chose their career for the love of teaching and the rewards of helping children.

The facts below seem to prove otherwise, so who is looking out for the kids best interest, obviously it sure isn't the teachers or the unions.

Yeah, long live public unions!



"Chicago teachers already make an average $75,000. That's more than other big city teachers earn, AND much more than Chicago's private school teachers get ($50,000). Because the teachers only work part of the year, they make more per hour than architects, nurses and accountants. When they do work, they don't work long hours. Even though most bring work home, the Bureau of Labor Statistics says the average public school teacher works only 36.5 hours a week.


The Chicago union doesn't want its teachers judged by their students' performance. I understand why. Ninety-three percent of the teachers are rated either "Superior" or Excellent". The kids don't do as well: 80% of eighth graders are "not proficient" in math.
Union teachers know that many of their colleagues aren't great teachers. Only 12% of American students attend private schools, but, 39% of Chicago public school teachers send their children to private schools. Anti school-choice politicians are no less hypocritical: President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Jesse Jackson, Hillary Clinton and Al Gore (to name just a few) all send or sent their children to private schools.
Now thousands of Chicago children are kept out of school. Your supermarkets and movie theaters aren't closed because of strikes. That's because private companies have competition. Government monopolies don't."


sounds like some t-baggers are mad
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I would think you would be more grateful for my presence. Forceful opponents should make you stronger, UB. Without guys like me this place would be an echo chamber, with only the the sounds of lefties slurping and the occasional orgasm.
there's that signature self righteousness.

just because you are forceful in your retarded assertions does not make your assertions formidable.

go cry in your corn flakes.
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
there's that signature self righteousness.

just because you are forceful in your retarded assertions does not make your assertions formidable.

go cry in your corn flakes.

Bucky, you treat me horribly. I can barely continue in the face of this criticism.
 

Fungus Gnat

Well-Known Member
I would think you would be more grateful for my presence. Forceful opponents should make you stronger, UB. Without guys like me this place would be an echo chamber, with only the the sounds of lefties slurping and the occasional orgasm.
An odd statement... this forum looked like a tea party rally for most of my time here.
 
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