**ULTIMATE LED TEST** *GLH Spectra 290* VS *Blackstar 500* VS *Hydro Grow LED 336X*

Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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this is because they are now doing v2 and v3 models with 3w led's versus the single watt diodes, so now they have switched to the typical led manufacturer rating of rating panels at 3w multiplied by # of total diodes, to get the wattage rating, to get actual wattage draw your going to now have to ask what the diodes are driven too. =(

Hollywood33 said:
Just wanted to let you guys know the www.growledhydro.com website is going to be completely redone. A lot of the information on there no longer applies to the new models. It should be updated in the next 3 weeks. The lights sold prior to this test were sold as actual watts, so if you paid for a 500w light you got light with true power draw of 500 watts. The new panels being sold by Spectra LED are powered much lower The panel you see in this test is basically the 500w panel just powered at 450mA pulling 360w, both panels use 252 led's which is what you pay for not the wattage drawn. Ill update you guys when the new site is up.
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Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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240 is going to be absolutely TITS for this size space, a 500 would fuckin decimate in there but just would be overkill, i'd buy 2 240's and cram em into that space before i'd buy a single 500 and cram it in there, more actual draw watts for less$ than a 500 and more surface area coverage.

WeJuana said:
I would recommend the 240w Blackstar High Output if you are looking for something priced for someone entry level that can go seed/clone through flower for a 31"x31" area.
Personally I think a Blackstar 500w may be a little much for an area that size.. but again that's merely my opinion.
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Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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this is very true davo's ive been a proponent of blackstar since almost their inception. They've never done me wrong, sure there are some better panels out there but for the $ you cant beat em. Lets take the american auto industry and sports cars for example we have the corvette, look at europe they have say lets use a gt3 911 as a basis, thats a 130+k car in cost, the corvette is only 50k or so. Sure the gt3 may edge the vette out in quality such as leather instead of plastic but really functionality comes down to be pretty damn near the same, with luxury being a totally different class. Whats more important, the leather, or smoking the shit out of the guy at the stop light next to you for 100K less than he paid. lol. See my point. Ill take a blackstar generally over any other panel until they can prove the price difference is worth it to me in performance.
davoswavos said:
Its kinda funny when everyone was hatin on blackstars because they were only drawing about 60% of the wattage labled but maybe they were just ahead of the game a bit and we didn't know it. There's lots of advantages when you don't max out the led diodes.
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puffenuff

puffenuff

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WeJuana said:
LA Con clones are only days away from getting potted.
Vegging for 2 weeks and then into the flower tents!

Any opinions on which strain to clone next: "Trinity Kush" or "Power Africa?"
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LA Con is already one of my favorites so I'm looking forward to seeing that! Depends what you want to go with...Trinity Kush is heavy indica dominant and Power Africa is somewhat sativa dominant...think flowering time is about the same though, 8-9 weeks or so. Both should be good yielders. Personally, I'd do some of each.
 
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coolj

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Kaptain Kron said:
this is very true davo's ive been a proponent of blackstar since almost their inception. They've never done me wrong, sure there are some better panels out there but for the $ you cant beat em. Lets take the american auto industry and sports cars for example we have the corvette, look at europe they have say lets use a gt3 911 as a basis, thats a 130+k car in cost, the corvette is only 50k or so. Sure the gt3 may edge the vette out in quality such as leather instead of plastic but really functionality comes down to be pretty damn near the same, with luxury being a totally different class. Whats more important, the leather, or smoking the shit out of the guy at the stop light next to you for 100K less than he paid. lol. See my point. Ill take a blackstar generally over any other panel until they can prove the price difference is worth it to me in performance.
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How do u feel abt blackstar UFOs?
 
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incognegro999

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This is exactly what I was looking for...six months ago before I bought Hid's haha. Getting into the market actually for one of these. My next grow has to not take up my whole walk in closet and not raise my electric a $150 a month. between lights, fans, evaporitive cooler for humidity, that shit gets expensive. Do you think one of those 240's would handle two decent sized plants in a grow tent? possibly complimented with some cfls? I kinda want to just grab one at the start (from seed this time), and then i feel the light seems lacking and I have the extra coin grabbing a second. Also how hot does it get? Will I be fine just jamming a filter fan combo and exhausting at the top with some passive intakes at the bottom? Sorry for all the questions, its been six months since I looked into leds and you seem to have your setup on point. +rep keep up the updates
 
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WeJuana

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coolj said:
Ok guys put it to a vote The DS100 Or The Blackstar 240 or 2 Blackstar 100 ufos?
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Blackstar 240w any day! 3w's over 2w's!! Call Gotham and talk to them and I am sure they would recommend the same thing.
I was originally looking to buy the more expensive 600w light but I was told the 500w with the 3w bulbs was the way to go.
 
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WeJuana

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incognegro999 said:
This is exactly what I was looking for...six months ago before I bought Hid's haha. Getting into the market actually for one of these. My next grow has to not take up my whole walk in closet and not raise my electric a $150 a month. between lights, fans, evaporitive cooler for humidity, that shit gets expensive. Do you think one of those 240's would handle two decent sized plants in a grow tent? possibly complimented with some cfls? I kinda want to just grab one at the start (from seed this time), and then i feel the light seems lacking and I have the extra coin grabbing a second. Also how hot does it get? Will I be fine just jamming a filter fan combo and exhausting at the top with some passive intakes at the bottom? Sorry for all the questions, its been six months since I looked into leds and you seem to have your setup on point. +rep keep up the updates
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I have grown in closets with no ventilation with a 240w and gotten away with just a regular oscillating fan blowing the air out, so you wouldn't even necessarily need any expensive venting setup, especially if you have a vent coming in with fresh air.

What size space are you working with? Considering the plants are only 2 ft or so tall when you start flower I think a 240w should be more than good for 2 plants!
 
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incognegro999

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WeJuana said:
I have grown in closets with no ventilation with a 240w and gotten away with just a regular oscillating fan blowing the air out, so you wouldn't even necessarily need any expensive venting setup, especially if you have a vent coming in with fresh air.

What size space are you working with? Considering the plants are only 2 ft or so tall when you start flower I think a 240w should be more than good for 2 plants!
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Prolly 2x2 or a 2x3 tent. I currently have a 4x4 and thats just too damn big for my space. I hope to be able to vent right into the closet (Already have a 400cfm fan and filter, which is difeinitly needed to keep world from knowing about my garden haha) and just put a little passive vent in the bottom of the closet door. On my hid grow temperatures would routinely hit crazy levels, I was venting from the tent piped to the bedroom the closet was on. I also had to run a fan from inside the closet sucking air into it. Even still I would have to open the bedroom to even the temps out, and that looks strange where I live in the middle of Dec haha. Heat from Hid closet grows is unreal, not really a good idea unless you can echaust that shit to outside the walls of wherever your growing. Oh well first grow lesson learned haha.
 
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WeJuana

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incognegro999 said:
Prolly 2x2 or a 2x3 tent. I currently have a 4x4 and thats just too damn big for my space. I hope to be able to vent right into the closet (Already have a 400cfm fan and filter, which is difeinitly needed to keep world from knowing about my garden haha) and just put a little passive vent in the bottom of the closet door. On my hid grow temperatures would routinely hit crazy levels, I was venting from the tent piped to the bedroom the closet was on. I also had to run a fan from inside the closet sucking air into it. Even still I would have to open the bedroom to even the temps out, and that looks strange where I live in the middle of Dec haha. Heat from Hid closet grows is unreal, not really a good idea unless you can exhaust that shit to outside the walls of wherever your growing. Oh well first grow lesson learned haha.
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Yeah you should be golden with a 240 in a 2x3!
 
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WeJuana

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Shroomz said:
i have a crystal ball i can see the future

THEY ALL SUCK VS HPS

this guy recived these led's at a greatly reduced price to do this test and depending on how he makes certain brands look he will get further discounts

not really an impartial test now is it

only suckers buy led's and only scammers an shills advertise them
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You have crystal alright haha. Go hit your high temp pipe.

I'm not advertising anything except my grow results those interested. Thanks for stopping by lol.
 
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WeJuana

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Shroomz said:
you must be refreshing the pages every 5 secs anytime anyone states the truth your in to defend 10 secs later

what is lol?? i dont speak nerd you fat fuck

your a shill partnered with scammers to take advantage of the inexperianced the more states that get new laws the more of you pop up from nowhere with doctored claims and bs to sling your junk from china

all the led's avalible can be bought off of alibaba go have a look yourself order 5+ an you can call them anything you want add a lil extra an get any colour case a little extra an get your brand laster cut into the case and so on

so again your a shill and a sellout partnered with scammers i hope the dea kicks your door in they love busting online braggers
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lol actually I happened to be on the forum, but all anyone has to do is check all 11 of your posts any anyone can clearly see your just trolling LED grows shitting on the thread with your opinion, but the great part about opinions are we are all entitled to our own.

Call me what you wish, but at no point in this grow am I trying to convince anyone to buy an LED, but merely showing my results using them.

Wishing the DEA kicks someones door in is definitely the way to get on the side of the people on a marijuana forum though. Thanks for stopping by again (:
 
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WeJuana

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Shroomz said:
you will find most people wishing you fly by night led scammers to get a taste of the shit we have had to put up with for years call it karma for the people you rip

the amount of led fail grows the false advertising , fake grow comps , fake diarys and sellout mag articles on led to sell these junk to newbies out number the postive theads by 99.95%

you can sing your 100% legit till the cows come home an your blue in tha face , the truth will be shown at the end of your fake grow show and then you can vanish back under your rock
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You seem to be delusional. Your claiming to be a victim, because your an LED user, logically making other LED users too. So I am a victim according to you, yet you say "the people you rip off" referring to me, being an LED user. So are LED users an enemy? or a victim? or both? lol.

You seem to act as if I am publicizing these massive yield results I never actually got, when I am simply showing results, and all you are giving is vague general claims. If the lights don't work as you say then that will show in the results, right? So then theoretically you should be encouraging me if you feel I will fail, so I look like a joke that spent a lot of money on products that don't work.

This is pretty entertaining right now, so please respond quickly so I can continue to further dissect your logic. (:
 
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WeJuana

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What business is that? haha. Thanks for the heads up.

Let's hope the courts still acknowledge the Constitutional rights here in the USA.

10th Amendment:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

And since you are speaking of legal matters, I would also like to point out the fact laws actually do not apply to humans, but only to entities (which I am not) under maritime admiralty law.

Do you care to inform me of anything else you feel I need to know Shroomz?
 
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WeJuana

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[video=youtube;F35hYDwKqOY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F35hYDwKqOY[/video]
Added a CO2 setup. I went with the CAP PPM-4 automated controller/monitor.
It both monitors and maintains CO2 levels at around 1400ppm.
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