Triploids

Theres no way stress causes it because the very first set of feeder leaves come out in three and they are already developed within the seed. Therefore whatever DOES cause it happenes in cultivation of the plant thats producing the seeds. Genetic?

Can't be or the traits would continue throughout the plant and carry over in clones which it doesn't.

This one seed is the first one i've seen in 23 years so I know for a fact I didn't cause it. I know how to grow, my plants dont stress unless I inflict stress intentionally. If someone causes stress to a seed to the point it affects development they just dont know what the fuck they are doing like AT ALL! I dont even see how that could happen. You pop a seed in water(preferably ph'd), drop it in a rapid rooter and apply 18/6 florescent lighting and water when the top of the plug is dry to the touch. Simple! Cannabis is extremely easy to grow. Once more it cannot be caused by stress unless that stress happens in development of the seeds because the very first set of leaves are developed within the seed and open into 3.

Hence my belief in either the breeder causing it, or some kind of insect or fungus. I will find out however, I know a person that just may know what the cause is. If he doesn't i'll be damned surprised.

Running into this for the first time in about 15 years of experience. Popped out of a pack of TGA Vortex. Came up as a dicot with initial cotyledons slightly offset from being exactly opposite, first true leaves came out opposite, second set came on normal and opposite as well. Then third set of true leaves came out as a triploid and this trend continued. I just noticed this all as I came in to top and clone this round of seedlings. I'm interested in this as a trait (if it is a trait) as it is already showing a perfectly spaced set of six tops instead of the usual four at this stage. I'll keep posting as it grows on and see what happens, it looks like a lady, but don't know yet. These plants have never been stressed in the least, I'm an experienced grower.

Here's a shot from the top. Love the branching, such perfect offset spacing.

Have no idea what you are going on about, nothing looks weird here...!

None of my other plants branch in 3's they all have opposite branching. 2 branches come out opposite then 2 more and so on. On this plant since the third set of true leaves I'm getting 3 branches in a triangle configuration? First two sets of true leaves came on in sets of two and opposite, then it just started throwing three triangularly spaced. Now the quiescent center of the main stem is throwing out 3 leaves at a time leading to triangular branching instead of opposite branching. All of the side branches seem to be growing normally and opposite...? Have to see what happens, I'm rooting the top I took, as it grows on I'll add more pics. Just something I'd never seen before and desirable as a trait if it is genetic. If you look at the stem close up pic at the bottom of my first post you can see where the third set of true leaves came out as three. The first set of true leaf branches were removed in that pic, the second set were opposite like all my other plants, the next set came in as three, not opposite, but triangularly spaced. It's more obvious on the top that I'm cloning, I'll try and get a pic of that on here soon.

Mainely OG said:

None of my other plants branch in 3's they all have opposite branching. 2 branches come out opposite then 2 more and so on. On this plant since the third set of true leaves I'm getting 3 branches in a triangle configuration? First two sets of true leaves came on in sets of two and opposite, then it just started throwing three triangularly spaced. Now the quiescent center of the main stem is throwing out 3 leaves at a time leading to triangular branching instead of opposite branching. All of the side branches seem to be growing normally and opposite...? Have to see what happens, I'm rooting the top I took, as it grows on I'll add more pics. Just something I'd never seen before and desirable as a trait if it is genetic. If you look at the stem close up pic at the bottom of my first post you can see where the third set of true leaves came out as three. The first set of true leaf branches were removed in that pic, the second set were opposite like all my other plants, the next set came in as three, not opposite, but triangularly spaced. It's more obvious on the top that I'm cloning, I'll try and get a pic of that on here soon.

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Even if it was, and the first three pictures just look like a a scraggly normal stem it would be because you lodt the apical dominance of the stem and nothing to do with triploids or genetics.

Whorled phylotaxy .

Sativied did great documentation of his seed lines that exhibited this trait.

@GroErr you may want to look at those, if you're interested, it didn't breed true, but it did breed through IIRC

Sorry not on the internet or in forums often, not sure what lodt means? It was doing this before it was topped which would have rerouted the apical dominance. Just an amateur botanist so triploid may be the wrong term for what I'm seeing, I always thought it referred to sterile females bred with three sets of chromosomes, not able to divide evenly or therefore reproduce(ie.seedless watermelons). But as far as I know all angiosperms only branch alternate, opposite, or whorled. But this plant is not doing any of those it's throwing 3 perfectly spaced around the stem nodes all at the same height, not alternately in an ascending spiral as if it was whorled.

Here's a pic of the apical bud site from the top I'm rooting you can see the triple branching.

One person on here swears its whorled pylotaxy but everything I've read suggests WP is naturally occuring in certain plants. Nothing suggests WP pertains to an abnormality in cell division. Whorled Phylotaxy is a natural occurance, not what ever this is. Mine stopped and reverted back to normal.

I appreciate the replies, I'll keep posting what happens as these grow on.

If you loose apical dominance due to stress you have a tendency to whorl, its a simple explanation. Means the plant is not focussing on growing straight up...