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[Skillzd]

This white widow X big buds is suppose to be 7-9weeks but I'm thinking the site says 7-9weeks is JUST flowering time. That's the only thing I could think of that would make it that big of a time difference. But idk. 10weeks the other plant was JUST STARTING to dense up. Do
Some strains start growing airy and stuff and then dense up more later. I Thot it was suppose to start as soon as it starts forming the calyxes and buds form. Once they are long and stringy or airy. That's it right? Or do some thicken and dense up later in flower? It's just odd how the last two flowered. But it was the first grow in many years and wasn't a good start. But ended up decent for how bad I screwed things up. Lol. Just mainly lighting issues at first until I got the HPS I just don't want these to end up airy like those.

 

[Growdict]

i think the guide recommended about 16" tall as a start, this is basically so you can set it up around a tomato cage properly. This allows a nice root and stem structure to allow nutrient uptake. I dont find they grow all that much once flipped due to not having a main cola. one foot or less typically for me.

 

[Javadog]

That sounds good....Chris it relates very much to the breed you are growing
as well. The stretch and the head-room you have will often be the determining
factor.

Good luck.

 

[Chef420]

So I'm vegging my next run and since I'm running 3 different strains in one tent I decided to try manifolding the two stretchiest.
I would like some advice on the next step. Plants are 40 days old.
The first and bushier is maple leaf x black domina
The second lankier looking one is gth#1.
Sorry about crappy pics. The last pic, the gth#1, is at the same stage as the ml x bd but not as bushy.
Thank you in advance.

Hey guys do you mind taking a look at this for me?
I'm thinking leave the fan leaves, then pin down the ends and those will be my colas. I'm planning on 8 so I'll top once after to get the 8.
Is this correct?

 

[chris247]

Thanks guys.

I'm growing Purple Bud, I think it's a 70% Indica. I've got loads of headroom, so that's not and issue in my mind.

I'm just struggling to decide whether to let my colas grow until they're about twice the height/size they are at the moment , or if I should just switch to 12/12 now, save myself some time, and avoid wasting energy.

My gut instinct tells me to switch them to 12/12 now, and get busy vegging four new ladies that'll be ready to start flowering when this first lot have been harvested - time/yield is my biggest necessity.

 

[Growdict]

chris, what lights are you using for your veg/ flower areas and how tall are they right now? myself, i would wait until they are at least 12" tall and if you have a pretty strong light on them, they should get there fairly fast once you stop topping/ tying down

 

[chris247]

Hey man. Thanks for the reply.

Im using a 600w in the flower tent, but I'm using that to veg at the moment as haven't got the veg tent yet.

Upon doing some further research I've decided that I'm going to wait however long it takes until my 4 ladies have a canopy that covers the 1.2m area that I have available. I'm also going to try and keep it as low and flat as possible for best use of light and its penetration.

Hopefully they'll each cover their own IIttle space of 0.3m x 0.3m by the end of the month - that'll be roughly 8 weeks since germination. That's roughly the same time this strain takes to flower, apparently, so the rotation should go pretty smoothly

 

[Skillzd]

Here's an update on mine. Oddly I lost one of my big girls. The Maknlined 8 Cola ended up Male. I am lost and confused as to how it's a Male. Considering it was my last WWxBB feminized seed And all my other seeds were feminized as well so idk. Anyways. I had too many big plants in my flower room so it helped cut back a little but still sucks. Mai lay cus I took clones and have no clue which ones were take From which of those two plants. So I'll have a few more males I'll have to weed out. Here's all three in flower tho for now. And then the 4 I just started Flowering under low wattage LEDs first cus the 600w HPS was causing MAJOR stretching. My bad. 175w CFL & LED combo to a 600w HPS is not a good idea. Lol. So I'll start flower under these LEDs and then move them I to the HPS after the first flowering stretch is slowed down some and they are showing sex too

 

[ilovetoskiatalta]

i think the guide recommended about 16" tall as a start, this is basically so you can set it up around a tomato cage properly. This allows a nice root and stem structure to allow nutrient uptake. I dont find they grow all that much once flipped due to not having a main cola. one foot or less typically for me.

I am growing critical widow(3), California Orange(2) (1) cheese (1-easy sativa leftover from the outdoor grow in small pot) and 3 auto blueberry also left over from outdoor grows all under a 315CMH in a 4'x2' tent. Does anyone have opinions on height before flower? I am thinking 16" but this is my first CMH grow and from what I see this is like a 600hps. I came off of 3-1000w hps in a larger area. I have downsized so this is new. I have waited and mainlined to get a very solid root mass in 12" square pots. I am experienced with training but I am not sure how this CMH will do. It is a 3100K bulb which has been fantastic even for veg...any input is appreciated.

4' x 2' tent
mountain air 4"x16" filter
hurricane 190cfm
FFOF
FF nutes(wholly mackerel, grow big, big bloom tiger bloom)
I have had success with this before under the 1000hps(400mh for veg)
I have used azomax for a thrips issue but so far its under control(front right CO is on the struggle bus from the thrips).
Thanks all

 

[Skillzd]

. I'm not familiar with CMH but I'd rather be safe than sorry and go shorter your first Run Lol


Edit.

After reading up on my own quick Yeah I think your ok at 16-18" even. CMH are know not to stretch as much when putting into flower. HPS stretches more

 

[ganga gurl420]

 

[Skillzd]

That's what I want. How long have you had that plant? I'm assuming it's a mother plant with a few years on it. Is that right? I want a cannabis TREE or. A BUSH but I need it small enough for indoors. That's why I want a bonsai style so I can get big fat trunks and continue to grow it

 

[ganga gurl420]

That's what I want. How long have you had that plant? I'm assuming it's a mother plant with a few years on it. Is that right? I want a cannabis TREE or. A BUSH but I need it small enough for indoors. That's why I want a bonsai style so I can get big fat trunks and continue to grow it

Nope it's this yrs grow. Popped the bean in late feb. Here is a pic of the full plant.

 

[ilovetoskiatalta]

Can anyone give some advice on when to flip to 12/12 with a 315 CHM?
I have a 4x2x7 tent
Hurricane 190cfm with a 4"x16" Mountain air
Temps never above 80(76 average) and RH is 40%-50%
FFOF soil
FF wholly mackerel, grow big, big bloom I will use tiger bloom(I have had nice results with this)
I had a battle with thrips that azomax and neem did nothing but the Monterey Garden with Spinosad has worked with two foliar drenching
7 plants have been manifolded total height 14"-16" so far light is 16 inches from canopy
1 cheese
3 critical widow
2 cali orange
1 easy sativa left over from outdoor

I am wondering about stretch with these lights?
I have only flowered under 1000hps in a bigger space.

I want the plants to veg a little longer since the inter nodal spacing is actually tightening up as they veg.
I am not in a hurry but I am worried that they may stretch too much since it is only a 315 smh?

Can I lower the light? I know the 30 second rule with his but these lights do not throw heat but I am worried about burning the tops if I get any closer?

Thanks for any advice with this new light source.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/club-315w-lec.904624/page-33#post-12906711

 

[Growdict]

i start off about 26" away with the 315 and let the plants stretch up into it and get down to 20-22" . i dont find they stretch all that much, but my plants are alway multiple tops, i dont run single colas. i usually only get about 12-18" of stretch

 

[ilovetoskiatalta]

i start off about 26" away with the 315 and let the plants stretch up into it and get down to 20-22" . i dont find they stretch all that much, but my plants are alway multiple tops, i dont run single colas. i usually only get about 12-18" of stretch

mine are manifolded/mainlined 8 heads...how close can they get? I put the back of my hand inches away and there is virtually no heat. Thanks for the help.

 

[Growdict]

how are you even able to cover 7 plants with only 16" to canopy? i would not go any closer than that.

 

[ilovetoskiatalta]

how are you even able to cover 7 plants with only 16" to canopy? i would not go any closer than that.

I don't want to go closer but I am trying to account for stretch. I know my cali-o will stretch under a 1000hps even when manifolding. What I don't know is how they react to these 315cmh.
To be honest the coverage by this light is impressive. There is no lean towards the lights on the perimeter and I am good about rotating the plants and the pots.

I was also wondering about canopy penetration and how far down this light is effective.

Thanks for the response.

 

[Growdict]

it wont stretch as much as hps, how much really is dependant on genetics and other conditions. mine only stretch 12-18 inches total in flower. and i find it penetrates effectively about a foot.

 

[Six9]

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Very nice, I wanna grow outdoors again, that shit just makes me smile. May that big bush of yours remain healthy!