Sucanat, Soo-ka-nat

Discussion in 'Subcool's Old School Organics' started by subcool, Feb 29, 2008.

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    subcool

    subcool Well-Known Member

    I have gotten an overwhelming response with questions on sucanat and I find myself writing the same thing over and over.
    So what I have done is compile some information for you to sift through and I give the amounts to use. So with what information Im giving you here should answer your questions good enough for you to make an informed decision.

    Sucanat (which is a concatenation of Sugar Cane Natural) is non-refined cane sugar that has not had the molasses removed from it like refined white sugar. It is essentially pure dried sugar cane juice. The juice is extracted by mechanical processes.[1]

    Sucanat is generally accepted as a substitute for brown sugar. Unlike regular brown sugar, sucanat is grainy instead of crystalline.

    "More importantly, Sucanat supplemented herb has an aroma and flavor all its own. It won't cover up the natural smell of your plants, but it'll add an extra richness and flavor to the strain. Some varieties that I've seen grown with Sucanat take on the flavor so much that they smell like carmel candy when you break up a bud. Joints rolled with Sucanat-grown ganja taste delicious all the way down to last ember burning against your fingertip. Bong hits linger on your tongue for hours, and even a quick hit off a pipe during lunch break becomes a momentary orgasm of sweet, savory goodness as the smoke rolls of your lips."

    We all know that white sugar is like the devil. It's got zero nutritional value and rots our teeth. It also makes us feel crappy when we eat it because it makes our blood sugar level spike up and then come crashing down. Imagine what it does to our poor plants.

    Have you heard of Sucanat? It stands for Sugar Cane Natural. It's sugar in its most natural form - pure cane juice with only the water removed. This process preserves all the vitamin-filled molasses. It's organically grown with no added preservatives or additives.

    Sucanut can be used in place of white sugar or brown sugar when baking, and adds a wonderful flavor due to the molasses. Unlike refined white sugar, Sucanat contains iron, calcium, vitamin A, vitamin B6, potassium and chromium. So you will also be getting nutritional value when you smoke your herb.

    Look for Sucanat in the baking aisle at your local health food store. It's a little bit more expensive than refined white sugar, but you're paying for the extra vitamins. Try it next time you bake some cookies or muffins. It can also be used to sweeten sauces and marinades, adds a wonderful flavor to your weed due to the molasses. Unlike refined white sugar, Sucanat contains iron, calcium, vitamin A, vitamin B6, potassium and chromium.adds a wonderful flavor due to the molasses.

    use two tbs per gallon, it gives it carbohydrates which the plant has to make to photosynthesize, so it lightens the work load on the plant and all the extra carbs can be used to build bud, and you also get the benefit of the enhanced flavor of the weed.

    If you are using another type of carboload then only use one tbs per gallon
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    LION~of~ZION

    LION~of~ZION Well-Known Member

    Its funny that you say this because I recently began using sucanat instead of molasses.

    We use it for cooking and other things in this household so I figured why not give it a shot in growing after all it is all natural.

    hadnt read anything about it until now but it just seemed like a good idea considering the sugar isnt refined.

    Ive been using one tsp per gallon and was wondering if using more would be alright...amazing that you posted this thread today Ive been asking myself this question for 3 days.
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    KingTeg

    KingTeg Well-Known Member

    i have used and started using agian sucanat
    along with sweet these two combined help make a nice sweet smelly crop =)
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    DND

    DND Well-Known Member

    My wife buys this stuff Sugar In The Raw

    Is this the same thing as Sucanat? Also, is there any benefit of using it during the veg stage and can it be used in a dwc bubbler system?

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    subcool

    subcool Well-Known Member

    In a bubbler it will make a sticky mess and roots will turn yellow brown.
    It rotts and makes a terrible mess

    Sugar in the raw is a perfect product.

    Sub
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    skunke

    skunke Active Member

    Just curios how does sucanat compare to molasses?
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    Pullin' weeds

    Pullin' weeds Well-Known Member

    I'm curious about others opinions about this. Personally I've used both and didn't notice much difference between the 2 - aside from molassas being easier to mix.
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    Joe2iisbeing

    Joe2iisbeing Well-Known Member

    Thanks for another great tip Sub, keep em comin.
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    MajesticWhelk

    MajesticWhelk Well-Known Member

    Hey sub,

    Do you water using sucanat all the way to harvest? I'm using it right now (with awesome results) and I'm approaching the last two weeks. I can't decide if I should "flush" for two weeks with just water, or if I should use the sucanat all the way to the end of week 8.
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    subcool

    subcool Well-Known Member

    I only apply sugars 2-3 times during budding
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    DR. VonDankenstine

    DR. VonDankenstine Well-Known Member

    I have been using the product for years at the rate of---weeks 1 to 3 /-2tbs per gallon every feed.weeks 4 to 6 /-4tbs every feed. week 7 to finish /-2tbs every week.(it is the only product I use in the last 10days to 2 weeks of flower)------------guano + sucanat = :peace:.
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    KingTeg

    KingTeg Well-Known Member

    why only 2-3 times?
    i guess you cant really overload the plant on sugars as it can only take up so much...
    when you use sucanat 2-3 times as opposed to all of flowering is there any differences?
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    subcool

    subcool Well-Known Member

    Another important thread buried on page 3

    Read up me little grow sponges

    hehehe
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    subcool

    subcool Well-Known Member

    I just think and you can try it yourself but the most I apply this is 4 times from say day 35 to like day 50 and I cant report any different results if you use more than this
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    littlebat

    littlebat Well-Known Member

    I'm doing this with my soil plants, except with molasses instead of sucanat. I can't wait to see how it tastes! Thanks for the tip!

    The Connies smell soooooo good -- at first I thought they smelled like lemon, but now that they're budding they smell a little sweeter. Yum! :)
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    Kingb420

    Kingb420 Well-Known Member

    will brown sugar do similar?
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    s.c.mtn.hillbilly

    s.c.mtn.hillbilly Well-Known Member

    I'm sure that works great, but if I tried it, it would probably be similar to the time we made rice crispy treats using applejacks instead! waaaaay too sweet! see, here's the thing: I 'cook' all kinds of fruit etc.(especially being directly under an apple tree!)in a bio dynamic compost pile. so I'm pretty much maxed out on sugars. anything that doesn't contain garlic bud ends up gushing sickly sweet(not a bad thing!). I'm absolutely convinced that what I put in the pile(e.g. 'coffee kush') has a noticeable affect on terpene production. I'm gonna' start putting lemons in the pile for the j.c.2 lemonheads!:weed:(as seen here)
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    s.c.mtn.hillbilly

    s.c.mtn.hillbilly Well-Known Member

    it'll work, but I'm sure not as well(of course who am I to say). brown sugar is just refine sugar with molasses added. it may be though- that refining the sugar may make it easier for the plant to use. another reason to use the compost pile: microbial action refines supplemental nutes into just what the plants ordered. better than just dumping guano or fish products on 'em(smells WAY better too!). you can't just open a box of spaghetti and dump it on the customer's plate!
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    Ohsogreen

    Ohsogreen Well-Known Member

    I use Sucanat (2 heaping tablespoons per gallon) in my High P Bat Guano Teas, the last six weeks of flowering. It revs up the micro-beasties - which ensures the (insoluble) portion of the bat guano gets brokendown more promptly. The simple sugars/carbs that don't get used by the micro-beasties are easily drawn into the roots - giving mary a nice treat - she does not have to work for. More calories, less work getting them, ensures a plump Mary.
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    Plus it definately improves the body of the smoke - it's richer, with a hint of sweetness. Molasses is fine, if it's all you have, but Sucanat is the next step up. Give it a try.... I bet you will like it...... (you find it at health food stores)
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    Keep it Real...Organic....
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    MrFishy

    MrFishy Well-Known Member

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