Simpson Oil...first batch...LOOKING TO HELP ONE MORE

steezygrow

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@topshelf: i agree mcpurple has absolutely no life i see him on every thread and for some reason it has started to piss me off... but YOU are a huge baby... lol
get over it. highjacking your thread??? haha you have got to be kidding me... its a forum not YOUR thread.. peace and love and grow some balls.
 

mcpurple

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it is also called ISO hash or a tincure it is the same thing made the same way. i sure am glad it was discovered though cuz i love to smoke it
 

flyingdeb

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Originally Posted by Flyingdeb
My name is Debbie Wilson. My health story is in this months Treating Yourself Magazine and the Michigan Medical Marijuana Magazine. I am medically retired law enforcement. I have lost my teeth, gall bladder, and colon from side effects of seizure medication. I did a trial in MI and the cannabis oil drops (oral) and they fixed everything for the first time in two decades. edibles donot work without a large intestine. My partial complex seizures never before controlled were controlled for two weeks. My cervical nerve pain was totally diminished. I can not get indica dominant strains or cannabis oil drops. Please guide me. I have tried Project CBD, Patients Out of Time etc. Any guidance would be so greatly appreciated.
God Bless,
Deb
 

hazorazo

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Originally Posted by Flyingdeb
My name is Debbie Wilson. My health story is in this months Treating Yourself Magazine and the Michigan Medical Marijuana Magazine. I am medically retired law enforcement. I have lost my teeth, gall bladder, and colon from side effects of seizure medication. I did a trial in MI and the cannabis oil drops (oral) and they fixed everything for the first time in two decades. edibles donot work without a large intestine. My partial complex seizures never before controlled were controlled for two weeks. My cervical nerve pain was totally diminished. I can not get indica dominant strains or cannabis oil drops. Please guide me. I have tried Project CBD, Patients Out of Time etc. Any guidance would be so greatly appreciated.
God Bless,
Deb
Deb, the man that posted this thread is not on Rollitup anymore. Are you needing recipes for oil, or are you needing places in Michigan to get the oil or indica dominant strains? Hope we can find some type of help for you, if we look in the right places. My heart goes out to you.
 

nl3004.kind

Active Member
it is also called ISO hash or a tincure it is the same thing made the same way. i sure am glad it was discovered though cuz i love to smoke it
it is most definitely not called iso hash or tincture, they are not all made the same way and if you were to speak to the man (rick simpson) he would tell you in no uncertain terms that you are not to smoke simpson oil... just as one does not inject and edible, or smoke one either, one does not smoke simpson oil or tincture... iso hash is great to smoke, but simpson oil is to be "eaten" or used as a topical ointment for skin and other issues, and tinctures are to be ingested either sublingually (under the tongue) or drunk like a cocktail... there are many conflicting reports as to how best make simpson oil and how to consume it, but if you look at "run from the cure" or any of the information on the "phoenix tears" website, you would see that simpson oil only resembles iso hash in its color and the fact that they are both made from cannabis....
 

Breeder

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To be honest everyone is a bit right on this thread. Rick Simpson oil is the cure,it is the real deal and like purp said making it is very similar to making ISO but there is a difference in consumption and why. The ISO while fun to burn and good for quick pain relief doesn't heal the body but covers up pain like any other pain med. RSO(Rick Simpson oil) is made with more of the plant when possible including stems,leaves,and buds. The saturation of cannabanoids in high consentration when ingested helps the body fight off many serious illnesses and has cured many ppl much to the dismay of government officials still trying to hide the truth about cannabis. Genesis 1:29 is the man to talk to about RSO and can be found on several med canna boards in our state. I have seen this stuff work first hand and I think anyone who grows should know how to make it,understand how to use it,and spread the knowledge around because this stuff could help save someone you love.
 

boxorain

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About a year ago I was diagnosed with stage 4 small cell cancer in my bladder. I've been taking RSO regularly since less than 1 week after finding out. Genesis was the second person to give me some and he and AT provided me with a good supply until the time I was able to provide for myself. I now grow the cannatonic strain for nothing but RSO; it is one of the highest in CBD content. I now am teaching other people to make it and spreading clones of this strain to anyone that needs the help. I am absolutely positive that this has been a huge part of the reason I am still breathing and walking upright. If you have friends or loved ones diagnosed with cancer, get them some ASAP!

Learn more about the real medical use of this plant; it isn't just for getting stoned and pain relief, or anti-nausea. It will cure many illnesses and help with many conditions...

http://projectcbd.org/

http://watch.montanapbs.org/video/1825223761/
 

mcpurple

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it all does the same stuff for me weather its called iso hash, hash oil, simpson oil or what ever it is all made almost the same way and it all seems to do the same exact thing for me, ive tried them all. my boss had some simpson oil and i was explaining this to her as well and it was just like any other ol hash oil
 

hazorazo

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it all does the same stuff for me weather its called iso hash, hash oil, simpson oil or what ever it is all made almost the same way and it all seems to do the same exact thing for me, ive tried them all. my boss had some simpson oil and i was explaining this to her as well and it was just like any other ol hash oil
I am sure you CAN smoke simpson oil. I would not CHOOSE to smoke it. Simpson oil is a much different form than hash oils, iso hash, etc.

You can smoke newspaper, but it will still taste like shit.

McPurple.....the Simpson Oil is not the same substance as hash oil or iso hash. Not even close. You may use extraction techniques that are similar to making hash oil or iso hash, but if you have seen or used Simpson oil, it has a much different consistency.

I hope, for your boss's sake, you did not tell them they should smoke it. And if you are smoking Simpson Oil, my opinion is that you are wasting a very valuable product.

Nl3004.kind had it right, and Breeder tried to put it nicely, but Simpson oil is not used in the same manner as hash oil or iso hash. They were correcting you in a nice way.

And folks, if you are not sure about stuff, look it up. Please do not spread misinformation around the medical community. If your boss REALLY needs simpson oil, they NEED to know how to use it properly! So please, make sure you know what you are talking about when dealing with medical patients.
 

boxorain

Member
Simpson oil is to be consumed as food, or used topically, not smoked. It really is not oil either, if made correctly; it is the consistency of grease.

And, Simpson oil is not being made for the thc! What heals and cures is the combination of more than 60 compounds (cbd, cbn, thcf, etc.). BHO is simply extracting the thc, or psychoactive components of the plant...

Also, those of us that use this material to heal/cure disease, rather than control symptoms or pain, are growing strains that are lower in thc and higher in cbd to make the oil.
 

Breeder

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Someone needs to get some mid west feral hempseeds and grow them,the cbd in those plants is VERY high and I think a batch with a mix of this and Indica would prob be the best possible oil one could make. Such a wide range of compounds is what's makes that RSO work so well imo and I'm hopeful for future developments to shed some lights on these subjects
 

boxorain

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I have been thinking the same thing. I wish we were legally allowed to grow enough plants to do some serious breeding here in Oregon.

It would be a great thing to cure cancer with ditchweed!

Someone needs to get some mid west feral hempseeds and grow them,the cbd in those plants is VERY high and I think a batch with a mix of this and Indica would prob be the best possible oil one could make. Such a wide range of compounds is what's makes that RSO work so well imo and I'm hopeful for future developments to shed some lights on these subjects
 

mcpurple

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well again i dont want to argue but i just yet again looked it up simpson oil and how it is used and how to make it, and yes it is dam near the same as iso hash, or hash oil or any other hemp oil and yes it can be smoked. ive looke dup about ten different sites now on how to make it and they are all the same
 

hazorazo

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well again i dont want to argue but i just yet again looked it up simpson oil and how it is used and how to make it, and yes it is dam near the same as iso hash, or hash oil or any other hemp oil and yes it can be smoked. ive looke dup about ten different sites now on how to make it and they are all the same
Sorry, McPurple, but everything I read says that Simpson Oil is to be VAPORIZED, ingested, or used topically. Not smoked. Please, please, stop spreading misinformation.

And if you are that confident in the sources you looked up, then post the links, so you can actually prove yourself. So far, we have 3 growers (some may call the 2 besides me experts) that have all disagreed with you.

Simpson oil is made in a similar fashion to ISO or tinctures, but end result is a much different form than any hash oil or ISO that you smoke.

Again, if you want to continue the discussion, please post your links.

Here is one of mine......and from the people that taught EVERYONE how to do this. You make up your mind on who is right, McPurple, or the creator of Simpson Oil, Rick Simpson. This link is from a site he is involved with.

http://phoenixtears.ca/dosage-information/

Here is another link, a little different take, but it still said vaporizing, ingesting or topically. They did not say any patient should smoke it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijwpv6x2R6U&feature=related



Let's not make this about arguing. Let's make it about facts that we can prove, with links that we can see.
 

mcpurple

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both links are point less, one doesnt say how it is made at all. and the other shows that it is made just like iso hash, hash oil ect...

and just cuz some one says you cant smoke it doesnt mean you cant just means they wont, it is very well smoke able and it works, i roll buds in it before i smoke and it smokes just fine.
your links have proven nothing really man.
but i dont want to start some BS so ill just leave the thread before a internet gang rape happens again.
peace guys and enjoy your iso hash, hash oil
 

hazorazo

New Member
both links are point less, one doesnt say how it is made at all. and the other shows that it is made just like iso hash, hash oil ect...

and just cuz some one says you cant smoke it doesnt mean you cant just means they wont, it is very well smoke able and it works, i roll buds in it before i smoke and it smokes just fine.
your links have proven nothing really man.
but i dont want to start some BS so ill just leave the thread before a internet gang rape happens again.
peace guys and enjoy your iso hash, hash oil
There is no internet gang rape. We disagree with you. I asked you to show some links, and all you do is TRY to tear mine down? Mine were long videos, so my bet is that you did not watch them all, and missed the very point I was making.

The neat thing about posting your links is that you can share your information, and the source of that information with everyone! For some reason, you do not want to share the 10 or so articles you read? Why is that, dude?

Just to make a point, you could post your links. Then, the argument is not really with you. Then we can all be disgusted with whoever misled you.

This really does not need to be you vs. us. You just make it that way. We could have a nice adult discussion, if you were ever willing to admit you may be wrong.

As for everyone out there, feel free to discuss things, but please, if you are arguing, please bring some support to your arguments, so we can make this an intelligent conversation on both sides.

I think that if you took a more intellectual view towards these discussions, we all might be able to learn from you. And if I were you, and fighting an uphill battle, I would be excited to show the amount of information I looked up to the contrary of my opponent's position.
 

mcpurple

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http://www.cannabisni.com/medicinal-cannabis-news/1194-how-to-make-hemp-oil-by-rick-simpson

http://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/how-to-make-your-own-hemp-oil-rick-simpson/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKsq90jWFuA

all these are links to show it is made the same way, in some of the videos they even say you can use alc. ever clear, 151 ect. any solvent will work and they will all do the same thing, rick simpson even calls in on one of the videos. i dont care what its called really but its not any different then iso hash or hash oil. and none of the links says it can be smoked but yes you can smoke it.
the government says we cant smoke weed but guess what we do
 

geekmike

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This is made like some hash and I have seen tinctures made in a similar way. But it isn't recommended to smoke just like BHO, because if it wasn't produced correctly your ass is going to blow up.

You can smoke just about anything.... but some things are just not supposed to be smoked.
 
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