Side by side molasses experiment?

MagusALL

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As I understand the carbs. Carbs 0nly help the production of Resin, trichs, and the swelling of buds. It does not help in the plant growth. As i thought he said in a earlier post, he added Molasses to the smaller of the two plants.

As I was told. a merathon runner needs CARBS for running, Althletes in general need Carbs to fuel their muscles, which in turn allows them to get bigger, but the althlete does not get taller. Carbs are used for energy fuel. Not growth. Just becauser the plant does not grow as big, does not mean that there is not as much THC contained is that smaller plant as the bigger one. Sometimes my smalliest plants end up being my best plants.
as a bio grad student that was one of the silliest things ive ever heard. but its ok. carbs are mainly used for energy, and not much else. but they do have other functions such as being parts of cell membranes and other things. but an athletes height has to do with genetics not nutrition. size has to do with many things not just nutrition. so this comparison is not really a good one. i think it basically has to do with what the plant uses during its flower production and what the bacteria uses for energy that makes molasses effective. if the plant uses more carbs than supplementing will help it by reducing the amount it uses from its energy stores. like a human eating food instead of burning fat, the plant will grow bigger, stronger, have less physical stress and may be able to store more carbs instead of spending them. i think experimentation is needed to se what carb solution works the best for herb. isolate the bacteria in the roots and see the effectiveness of different solutions. then this would affect the absorption of nutrients which would benefit the plant the most. i think im going to start a nutrient company using good shit for like half the price of other name brands. whos down?
 

Lord Dangly Bits

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Magus, the only reason I talked about size of growth. as in the athlete growing from carbs is because some people mentioned that after 4 days... ONLY 4 DAYS!!!! The plants looked the same.. WELL DAH!!!!!!!!

I can chang a plant from Crap Nuts to Super NUTS, and you will not see a hug difference in 4 days.. Nutrients are not magical. They take time to do their work. You are splitting hairs when I was trying to make it understandable for the laymen. More then one person in here also have degrees. Mine is not on plants and horticulture though. But still, it is best to talk at a level that everyone can come to understand. If not, you are only blowing your own horn... Not saying you did at all. Just saying,, I was trying to get everyone to understand my meaning.. Maybe I was a fool. Sorry.

OH.. PS.. try reading what I said when you are not baked.. plus you are just a grad. Some of the biggiest idiots are Grads, and can never handle the job, because they do not understand real life, they only understand books.

Myself. I am a grad and am going strong in my field.

Maybe try readying what I said a little slower.
 

MagusALL

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haha, thats what i was saying, DIDNT MEAN TO SOUND LIKE A DICK. i was just saying, nah, that isnt correct, here is the biological reason. laymen can understand in many ways, i prefer the correct biological way cuz im OCD and a bio major and looking at something thats wrong makes me feel weird about myself, lol. I know im not the only one with a degree, im not trying to make myself feel better i just rather tell you what the truth actually is cuz there is always a lot of misinformation on forums. its all for the greater good my man. dont worry, i correct my gfs grammar all the time. if you knew me you wouldn think anything of it.
 

Lord Dangly Bits

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Ok, give me two days, and I will tell you this post in Correct College terms... ROFLMAO.... You said that Carbs are used for Energy.. I was trying to get at the Carbs are used for Energy, but not for growth of the plant, but for the flowers and such.. MAINLY.. sure some goes to growth. But most goes into the bud sites, and it does not happen at the snap of the fingers.
 

Lord Dangly Bits

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Lets see, you say that Carbs are for Energy. Hmmm, I said it was for Energy to build trichs and Swell the buds. Carbs are also used in storage of energy.. as in FAT. But MJ does not have FATs. They have BUDS.. this is where they store their energy to build/protect its seeds. But If I am wrong, please let me know. I will go tell all the long time growers that told me this. Heck I hate useing Carbo anyway, it always gooes up my air stones and pumps anyway.
 

sleepytown

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Whoa, I've never had a thread that had more than like 2 replies, including my grow journal. I didn't think i would ever have this much activity after just stepping out for a quick pint with my girlfriend. So, here are a couple things:

1) As I did say before, the one that is receiving molasses is a little bit smaller. To be specific, it is two days older, and really not that noticible anymore (or after 2 weeks veg). However, this is worth noting. As I said before, this is not a perfect experiment.

II) They did not come from clone. Even though the more I look into Greenhouse Seed Co's operation, the more I think they are doing shit flawlessly; there is a possibility that my plants are quite different.

c) Both plants are receiving a healthy dose of Tiger Bloom every other watering (with molasses for one on the off-times). They both also have a healthy mix of guano in their soil. The one that isn't getting molasses is definitely not starving.

So, this is not a perfect experiment. I did it to see if under a normal feeding program, molasses will blow me away. I see so many people who add this and that because they think it will make their plants better, but haven't any proof. It's like a guy using all 163 Advanced Nutrients products, and then adding one by General Hydroponics because someone else told him it was good. Sure it is a good nutrient, but did he need it? Did it do anything for him? That's what I would like to ascertain. People talk about molasses like it will triple your yield, walk your dog, and do your taxes. I see grow journals where a guy is talking about how molasses made his plants what they are when he has a $300 receipt from the hydro store in his pocket.

So, here.

No lab coat.

No Beakers

No Bunsen burners.

Just good old American pseudo-science and a dash of real scientific method.

S-Town

And come on guys. Let's settle our differences. The only carb argument I want to hear is the old "carb vs. slide bong" one. If the plant is digging it, it will give me the thumbs-up. Any real science should go on another thread. I want this experiment to be idiot-proof.
 

Lord Dangly Bits

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To get true test result you would need to have more like 10-20 plants,of the same mother. With only two plants, from different mothers, you could give them both the same exact everything, and have two totally different yeilds.

Maybe if I ever set up my other hydro system (DWC) with seperate buckets for 10 plants. I will give it a try. But even then, it would not be accurate data, because I have never used the DWC system yet. It has been sitting in storage for about 8 months.

My last grow I decided not to use Carboload. Then on this grow, I also was not going to use carbo again, but I had two long time growers tell me it is like feeding Carbohydrates to a marathon runner, it gives them energy.. Then some Bio Nut with 30 days of grow time tells me I am silly. Well I hope I am silly, and you guys can prove this crap does not help at all, because I hate the slimey mess it makes.
 

MagusALL

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are those carb nutrients any different from the homemade black strap molasses blends? ive heard that they are pretty much the same exact thing. and dude, get over yourself, i was just trying to clear up a statement that wasnt accurate. and yeah i am a bio nut, and it adds to my knowledge so i dont see how thats a bad thing. i didnt call you silly, i said that was a silly statement. i dont know you so i cant tell if your silly or not. were all online talking about the illegal shit were doing so i guess were all equally silly. no hard feelings my man.
 

mvg26

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yea i really want to seee the outcome of this cuz i didnt add molasses to mine so i want to see if i missed out or luckily didnt waste my time yea for scinence now if i could only spellefk
 

Humboldt

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Molasses does not necessarily make your plant or buds bigger but increases crystals, so you may not notice much difference in the plant itself, the real test is after harvest .. which plant has more crystals and is more potent, molasses also has something to do with helping with nutrients/ferts to the plant, they say it's best used toward end of flowering, I'm using grandmas molasses, since the buds have gotten twice as sugary and sticky, so I'm thinking it helps..

The following link will explain better,
BCSeeds.com - How to induce marijuana to flower.


Peace!
 
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