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Secession petitions filed

Discussion in 'Politics' started by SirGreenThumb, Nov 12, 2012.


    SirGreenThumb Well-Known Member

    Yes this is a copy and paste.
    This amused me so I figured I would post it.
    From: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ates-petition-obama-administration-to-secede/

    From states across the country, Americans have filed petitions on the White House Web site seeking to secede from the union and form new state governments.

    While most of the petitions come from states that supported Mitt Romney in last week’s election, a few swing states and even the deep blue Northeast are represented.
    Petitions have been filed for Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas.
    “We petition the Obama Administration to peacefully grant the State of Alabama to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own new government,” reads the Alabama petition. The following text is the same in most of the 20 filed so far:
    As the founding fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776:
    “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
    “…Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government…”
    Most of the petitions have a few thousand signatures; many signers appear to be from other states. Under the “We the People” program, launched last year, the White House will respond to any petition that receives 25,000 or more signatures within 30 days. Anyone over the age of 13 can create a petition. Previous popular petitions demanded the White House beer recipe (success) and marijuana legalization (no success).
    The petitions from Louisiana and Texas, however, are approaching the threshold for a response. They were the first two states represented, followed by Alabama. Petitioners only have to put a first name and last initial on the site.
    Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) raised the idea of secession back in 2009, but he has since made clear that he has no interest in it. Tennessee Rep. Zach Wamp (R) suggested in 2010 that some states might have to “consider separation from this government” should the leadership in Washington not change. ”I hope that the American people will go to the ballot box in 2010 and 2012 so that states are not forced to consider separation from this government,” he said.

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    see ya later, texas.

    don't cry to the federal government the next time your god forsaken hell hole of a state is on fire.

    you too, louisiana. i expect you'll do just fine the next time you flood and won't come crying to the federal government for dollars.

    cannabineer Ursus marijanus

    The new Texas-Mexican war should be interesting to watch once Federal military assets have been withdrawn. cn

    SirGreenThumb Well-Known Member

    I'm kinda curious. Anyone think that they would require people to get passports in order to visit their "non"state? That would make for an interesting road trip, since you would probably have to drive completely around one used to be state to get to another state. :lol:

    pen47Tex Active Member

    Many people in Texas still consider themselves "Citizens of the Republic of Texas". There was a slight uproar back in the 1800's when so soon after we won our freedom from Mexico, they turned around and handed us over to the US. Texans have long memories, and many have not forgotten or forgiven. The pride in being a citizen of Texas also runs deep. So, it is understandable that there would be fertile ground for such action. Given the state of the union, one might wonder why there isn't more support for this petition. I'm not saying I personally support it. I am one that likes to view all sides, and every angle before making any decision, especially one of this magnitude.
    I will look into this further. I had heard about it, but have been bombarded in both my professional, and my personal life. Thanks for bringing this back to my attention.

    cannabineer Ursus marijanus

    I'm not sure. My gut response was "yes", as a national border would be involved. but then I considered the European Community, where reciprocity agreements now allow travel as easy as current interstate.
    The reverie moves on to a looser federation more in keeping what our logging hunting whaling ancestors had in mind
    ... and then crashes on the fact that 200+ years of technology have shaped the social contract more profoundly than the intellects of the Enlightenment could anticipate ...

    SirGreenThumb Well-Known Member

    I guess if they did allow motorists to use their current interstates they would probably install quite a few toll booths. At least it would generate quite a bit of income for that state. I would also be curious as to see if or what their currency would look like.

    cannabineer Ursus marijanus

    Currencywise, we'd still have our Euro-equivalent. cn


    SirGreenThumb Well-Known Member

    Interesting. I have one of these:

    pen47Tex Active Member

    I'm guessing something closer to the Gold standard... What paper money would like like there?

    If I had anything to do with it, it would look like this...


    Guns Up!!
    Wreck 'em Tech!!

    deprave New Member

    I wish you would of provided us with some links to sign these petitions.

    Harrekin Well-Known Member

    $10,000 bet says the Feds declare the people who signed as "terrorists" and Predator drone the shit out of them.

    Or they might just NDAA them.

    Red1966 Well-Known Member

    Not going to happen. Nothing to see here folks, move along.

    SirGreenThumb Well-Known Member


    deprave New Member

    Canna Sylvan

    Canna Sylvan Well-Known Member

    Only the coastal states are blue. The rest are red. I can see all you liberals with very little land. Even though I love California, given the choice I'd not live in a blue country. That would be so hilarious.

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    please suggest a few good vacation spots on the nevada, colorado, and iowa coasts, choomboy.

    Saltrock Active Member

    Bye, au revoir, se la ve, adios. Don't forget to write. Don't call me i'll call you. I think that each state should pay $320,000,000,000 before they are allowed to secede. Got to pay your bills before you go bro.

    Canna Sylvan

    Canna Sylvan Well-Known Member

    Bucky,Go fuck your hen.You'll get your dick off,cause we know that chicken has to be better than your skeleton of a wife.Plus there's the added bonus of killing it from the fucking for not doing its keep of laying eggs.Oh yeah,nevermind you got a uterus.
    bud nugbong

    bud nugbong Moderator

    please make a counrty filled with former jerry springer guests...we'll see how it goes. jerry could be the president.

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