Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

foreverflyhi

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YO check out this promo from seedsman.I found two different strains for 114$ plus with freebies and this promotion, seriously cant beat it!

"Now, when you Spend £85 or more on any regular seeds, you will receive 4 packs of regular seeds absolutely free! That is 17 seeds added to your order!
In this amazing offer, your free seeds will be: 5 Goji OG by Bodhi Seeds, 5 Space Candy by TGA Subcool, 5 Old Time Moonshine by Mosca Seeds and 2 Loud Sour by Loud Seeds.
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st0wandgrow

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I have ordered from seedsman with zero problems. They do not guarantee their order from what I hear. A friend ordered their stealth book opinion, and let's say it's pretty damn good. ;)

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Seedsman does offer guarantee. I had an ordered from them intercepted by customs recently, and they honored the guarantee with no hassle. In fact they even threw in a few extra freebies for the trouble.
 

SpaaaceCowboy

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Seedsman does offer guarantee. I had an ordered from them intercepted by customs recently, and they honored the guarantee with no hassle. In fact they even threw in a few extra freebies for the trouble.
Thanks for posting...I was thinking of ordering from them but then I didnt want to after I heard there was no guarantee.
 

Pattahabi

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Seedsman does offer guarantee. I had an ordered from them intercepted by customs recently, and they honored the guarantee with no hassle. In fact they even threw in a few extra freebies for the trouble.
You are correct, found this:

Purchase one of our Guaranteed Delivery products with your seeds order and we'll resend your order free of charge if it goes missing, until you receive it. To maximise the chance of your order getting through to you successfully, we also recommend adding the option of removing the seeds from Original Breeder packaging.

Guaranteed Delivery products and taking seeds out of original packets is strongly recommended when ordering from the Southern Hemisphere or Americas and other rest of the world destinations.
I was totally thinking of Cannazon who I have also had zero problems with in spite of this:

ALL ORDERS ARE SENT OUT UNDER THE FOLLOWING UNDERSTANDING:Once we have packed your items, handed your package over to the postal service and passed you your tracking number that is our part done. The final stage of delivery is totally out of our control, should your TRACKED package not arrive unfortunately we can not offer you a replacement but we will send you a good will gesture by regular mail. Unfortunately we can not offer this same guarentee to any items sent by regular mail.

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DonTesla

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Looking good. Grown in recycled soil that I amended and cooked nothing added but water to achieve this at 37 days into flower. Yes I used a PH meter to make sure the cooking of this soil was complete before using. Unfortunately I am not in a space where I can fully implement ROLS, so I am mix, cook, use, recycle, amend, cook, use etc... for me ROLS is for larger containers, I use 2 gallon cloth containers. I would have to build a custom square pot using all the space and line with cloth to attempt a ROLS grow in such a confined space. It would be hard to move around established plants to reach in the back with such a set up. Having smaller containers I can pull them out of the space and attend to their care easier when pruning harvesting and such. Therefore I can't say I really comment on utilizing ROLS over traditional mix and cook for next cycle. I believe ROLS really needs larger containers 25 gallons or so to provide that buffering (microlife population) by the soil to keep the PH balanced when organic nutrients are added. Whereas you may get away with putting hot compost material into it and it won't throw of the PH significantly and if it does it is such a short duration that no real effect noticed. But try something like that in a 2 to 10 Gallon container, your gonna have to flush you soil as I once had to do with MY SHARONA when her soil PH went down. Anywise I am all on board with being frugal and hope someday I will have space to implement ROLS in a larger container where the biosphere can be viable on such a scale to absorb input readily.
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37 Days in, thats gnarly.. is that a 40"x40" tent? what kind of lighting are you rocking, dude??
 

DonTesla

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What?! No update on the Dons' garden?
.. this is the Dons 2.0 super (natural) soil in 5 gallon pails.. amended to be a little less hot, but no less nutritional, with 400w led lighting, and without leaf mould, bio char, gypsum, and a couple other things that may be added next time around. All i gotta say is BIG UP YA'SELF, bro. organics is bad ass. Mother nature, a boss. The sheen, just beautiful.. we getting dialled in, more and more, no doubt. especially happy is the chernobyl bubba kush (pic next_from other device)


**note: these plants survived a ten day vacation and some hot temps in the heart of summer, and also received no alfalfa while i was away, which would have reduced the nodal spacing a bit, plus i would have kept them out of the 27*C range which they were hitting almost daily for a good few hours. looking forward to round 3, especially, which will feature 7 gallon pails, and a 30 gallon tub with the third batch of soil, cooking now
 
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greasemonkeymann

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All seeds work. I'm not sure there is any research on exact enzyme levels for this application. I have soaked the seeds, rinse, put them in a 5 gallon bucket with airstones and let them srpout. Then you can use that water for your tea. Not as potent imo, but it doesn't destroy the sprouts and you would be free to plant them if you like. Really though, you only need to plant a cover crop once, and you can apply SST's weekly. Personally I buy things like sunflower seeds for like $1 a pound, puree them, and throw the leftovers in the worm bin.

Edit: and you always soak first and discard the initial soak water. This has root inhibiting hormones from the outer shell. After the initial rinse it's fine.

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Damn pattahabi, you have some good knowledge, I didn't know that about the initial soak for the seeds... How long should I soak them to begin with?
 

DonTesla

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^^^That first pic...damn.
What a difference hey bro!? compared to the fading girl in the corner in the barely amended mix (fresh castings and a 2.0 top dress holding her together..what kind of feeding are you thinking would be okay.. I've read the organic feeding forum im just skeptical of feeding in the last month, lol).. I want the cleanest herb possible, but I know she's not as well fed as her sister with sheen.. they are slated for 23 more days before their 9 weeks is up, as of today
 

DonPetro

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What a difference hey bro!? compared to the fading girl in the corner in the barely amended mix (fresh castings and a 2.0 top dress holding her together..what kind of feeding are you thinking would be okay.. I've read the organic feeding forum im just skeptical of feeding in the last month, lol).. I want the cleanest herb possible, but I know she's not as well fed as her sister with sheen.. they are slated for 23 more days before their 9 weeks is up, as of today
I would just do a mellow EWC/molasses brew. That will give her a quick boost and won't affect the final product.
 

Pattahabi

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Damn pattahabi, you have some good knowledge, I didn't know that about the initial soak for the seeds... How long should I soak them to begin with?
Thanks Grease! I usually soak for a couple of hours, drain the soak water, rinse the seeds, refill with clean water. I soak a total of 12-24 hours. after which, previously I put them in a damp organic cotton tee shirt, but it got to be a pain, so now I'm using a seed sprouting cup. Let the tap root get about as long as the seed, blend strain, and water!

This also has a great effect on trich production the last couple of weeks of flower imo. ;)

Peace!
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Relative247

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Thanks everyone for their participation in this thread! Finally made my way through it.

Here's what I came up with, does this seem okay?

1/3 Peat
1/3 Lava Rock (crushed)
1/3 Earthworm Castings and Malibu's Compost

Per Cubic Foot:

3 Cups Activated BioChar
(50 cups aerated in a 5 gallon bucket with a cup of Alfalfa, a cup of Fish Meal, a handful of peat and handful of EWC)

4 Cups Basalt
1 Cup Bentonite
1 Cup oystershell
1/2 cup neem meal
1/2 cup crab shell
1/2 cup kelp
1/2 cup Alfalfa meal
1/2 cup Gypsum
1 cup fish meal

making 18 cubic feet of soil

Does this seem like a good ratio?
 

Pattahabi

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Thanks everyone for their participation in this thread! Finally made my way through it.

Here's what I came up with, does this seem okay?

1/3 Peat
1/3 Lava Rock (crushed)
1/3 Earthworm Castings and Malibu's Compost

Per Cubic Foot:

3 Cups Activated BioChar
(50 cups aerated in a 5 gallon bucket with a cup of Alfalfa, a cup of Fish Meal, a handful of peat and handful of EWC)

4 Cups Basalt
1 Cup Bentonite
1 Cup oystershell
1/2 cup neem meal
1/2 cup crab shell
1/2 cup kelp
1/2 cup Alfalfa meal
1/2 cup Gypsum
1 cup fish meal

making 18 cubic feet of soil

Does this seem like a good ratio?
Looks awesome to me! You might cut the basalt by a cup, but I think you'll be fine either way.

Great job!
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joespit

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This is my first attempt at a Los. following a recipe from the beginning of this thread. I only gave her coconut water and molasses. This was the easiest grow I've ever done and I'm pretty happy with the results! Ill be chopping within the next week and can't wait to see how she smokes!

Thanks for the help everyone!

Happy growing.
How is growing EWC indoors?
 
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