Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread
- Thread starter headtreep
- Start date
headtreep
Well-Known Member
Try it without. Clean water no issues. Hell don't take my word for it just look at the other people that use the LOS method. Dank all the time.
DANKSWAG
Well-Known Member
Looking good. Grown in recycled soil that I amended and cooked nothing added but water to achieve this at 37 days into flower. Yes I used a PH meter to make sure the cooking of this soil was complete before using. Unfortunately I am not in a space where I can fully implement ROLS, so I am mix, cook, use, recycle, amend, cook, use etc... for me ROLS is for larger containers, I use 2 gallon cloth containers. I would have to build a custom square pot using all the space and line with cloth to attempt a ROLS grow in such a confined space. It would be hard to move around established plants to reach in the back with such a set up. Having smaller containers I can pull them out of the space and attend to their care easier when pruning harvesting and such. Therefore I can't say I really comment on utilizing ROLS over traditional mix and cook for next cycle. I believe ROLS really needs larger containers 25 gallons or so to provide that buffering (microlife population) by the soil to keep the PH balanced when organic nutrients are added. Whereas you may get away with putting hot compost material into it and it won't throw of the PH significantly and if it does it is such a short duration that no real effect noticed. But try something like that in a 2 to 10 Gallon container, your gonna have to flush you soil as I once had to do with MY SHARONA when her soil PH went down. Anywise I am all on board with being frugal and hope someday I will have space to implement ROLS in a larger container where the biosphere can be viable on such a scale to absorb input readily.
DankSwag
DankSwag
KLITE
Well-Known Member
Should i not worry even if its at 8 or 5? I have read a wee bit about why ph isnt significant but it didnt sink in as well as id hoped. Thats why i just make sure my res water isnt at anything outrageous and end up with a lock out, or that just happens when dealing with the darned bottled nutes?
headtreep
Well-Known Member
Neem
1) Antiviral
Water extracted from the leaves has shown antiviral properties. The Neem Foundation implies that the neem leave’s extracts absorb viruses and prevent them from distributing to other regions of the body.
2) Antibacterial
Extracts from the neem oil along with the leaves reveal antibacterial and antiseptic benefits. The leaves may be used in paste form to treat many different skin conditions for example acne, rashes, psoriasis and eczema. The Neem Foundation reports early Indian practice was to bath in warm water with submerged neem leaves to heal skin conditions. Small scrapes and cuts can be treated with neem leaf extract to prevent bacterial disease and redness.
3) Antifungal
According to The Neem Foundation, compounds in the neem leaf are hazardous to fungus. The leaves contain two compounds, nimbidol and edunin, which have antifungal properties.
4) Oral Health
Both oils and aqueous extracts of neem comprise strong antiseptic compounds; these may destroy the bacteria that cause cavities, halitosis, and gum disease. Neem’s powerful antibacterial activity makes it a well-known ingredient in toothpaste, mouthwash, and oral health tonics.
5) Reproductive Health
Based on the Neem Foundation, neem is a fairly powerful birth control agent; it reduces fertility in both women and men without affecting sexual performance or libido. Neem also functions as a spermicide and could prevent sexually trasmitted infections when used as a vaginal suppository. Neem can treat excessive vaginal discharge, as well.
6) Arthritis
The Neem Foundation notes that neem is a well known, powerful botanical treatment for osteo-arthritis and rheumatoid arthritis. It might help provide long term treatment for individuals with chronic debilitating conditions like fibromyalgia.
7) Skin Health
In both pets and individuals, neem removes the little parasites that cause scabies. In Ayurveda practice, neem oil is used topically as a therapy for psoriasis and eczema.
Insect Repellent
Neem provides a nontoxic, environmentally friendly option to chemical insect repellents and flea treatments. It efficiently repels lice, fleas, ticks, mites, ants, and mosquitoes. It is recommended by the Neem Foundation for livestock, pets and people.
Malaria
Clinical tests haven’t yet established neem’s effectiveness as a therapy for malaria, but even so there is hope for it to be a future malaria treatment option.
9) Cancer and Diabetes
Because there is proof that its use may reduce the demand for insulin, neem has healing implications for diabetes. Reportedly, neem reduced the demand for insulin dosage by 30 to 50 percent in a single team of individuals. A recent research study, performed with rats and mice, demonstrated that the inclusion of a preparation from neem leaf added to an antigen helped create higher quantities of an immune antibody helpful for shielding against breast cancer.
The list goes on. Do some research it's out they. That's why I eat it in capsules like a vitamin.
1) Antiviral
Water extracted from the leaves has shown antiviral properties. The Neem Foundation implies that the neem leave’s extracts absorb viruses and prevent them from distributing to other regions of the body.
2) Antibacterial
Extracts from the neem oil along with the leaves reveal antibacterial and antiseptic benefits. The leaves may be used in paste form to treat many different skin conditions for example acne, rashes, psoriasis and eczema. The Neem Foundation reports early Indian practice was to bath in warm water with submerged neem leaves to heal skin conditions. Small scrapes and cuts can be treated with neem leaf extract to prevent bacterial disease and redness.
3) Antifungal
According to The Neem Foundation, compounds in the neem leaf are hazardous to fungus. The leaves contain two compounds, nimbidol and edunin, which have antifungal properties.
4) Oral Health
Both oils and aqueous extracts of neem comprise strong antiseptic compounds; these may destroy the bacteria that cause cavities, halitosis, and gum disease. Neem’s powerful antibacterial activity makes it a well-known ingredient in toothpaste, mouthwash, and oral health tonics.
5) Reproductive Health
Based on the Neem Foundation, neem is a fairly powerful birth control agent; it reduces fertility in both women and men without affecting sexual performance or libido. Neem also functions as a spermicide and could prevent sexually trasmitted infections when used as a vaginal suppository. Neem can treat excessive vaginal discharge, as well.
6) Arthritis
The Neem Foundation notes that neem is a well known, powerful botanical treatment for osteo-arthritis and rheumatoid arthritis. It might help provide long term treatment for individuals with chronic debilitating conditions like fibromyalgia.
7) Skin Health
In both pets and individuals, neem removes the little parasites that cause scabies. In Ayurveda practice, neem oil is used topically as a therapy for psoriasis and eczema.
Insect RepellentNeem provides a nontoxic, environmentally friendly option to chemical insect repellents and flea treatments. It efficiently repels lice, fleas, ticks, mites, ants, and mosquitoes. It is recommended by the Neem Foundation for livestock, pets and people.
MalariaClinical tests haven’t yet established neem’s effectiveness as a therapy for malaria, but even so there is hope for it to be a future malaria treatment option.
9) Cancer and Diabetes
Because there is proof that its use may reduce the demand for insulin, neem has healing implications for diabetes. Reportedly, neem reduced the demand for insulin dosage by 30 to 50 percent in a single team of individuals. A recent research study, performed with rats and mice, demonstrated that the inclusion of a preparation from neem leaf added to an antigen helped create higher quantities of an immune antibody helpful for shielding against breast cancer.
The list goes on. Do some research it's out they. That's why I eat it in capsules like a vitamin.
headtreep
Well-Known Member
If you don't deal with bottles you should have no issues. Bottled nutes are something we do not promote with ROL or LOS. Who know what your'e really getting.
Think of it as process food when using nute bottles.
DANKSWAG
Well-Known Member
KLITE,
That would be BC, not sure what you mean what do I base myself on. I am all natural as can be and if I can get mother nature to do the work for me and I all have to do is ensure she is unimpeded and keep myself out of the way that is good. And if I can give her a natural boost I am all for that too. I make my own LAB and EWC. I am on board with ROLS I just think logically volume dictates that more soil is more life, more life is able to handle breaking down of matter introduced that could negatively impact life in that soil. If a dog pees in your yard your grass will turn yellow in that spot but not the entire yard the life around it will benefit the life in it will die. Unless it is distributed well. Thus when using human urine to feed plants you dilute it. In ROLS there is such much life going on in the soil by volume organic matter can be introduced not yet composted and be buffered by the soil life.
So maybe there should be a URINE test for you all's ROLS pots, depending on how many CCs of urine you can pour into your soil at one time without burning your plants can provide a scale of 1-5 on how FREAKY your ROLS container is!
Another Shot of BC 37 days into flowering
DankSwag
That would be BC, not sure what you mean what do I base myself on. I am all natural as can be and if I can get mother nature to do the work for me and I all have to do is ensure she is unimpeded and keep myself out of the way that is good. And if I can give her a natural boost I am all for that too. I make my own LAB and EWC. I am on board with ROLS I just think logically volume dictates that more soil is more life, more life is able to handle breaking down of matter introduced that could negatively impact life in that soil. If a dog pees in your yard your grass will turn yellow in that spot but not the entire yard the life around it will benefit the life in it will die. Unless it is distributed well. Thus when using human urine to feed plants you dilute it. In ROLS there is such much life going on in the soil by volume organic matter can be introduced not yet composted and be buffered by the soil life.
So maybe there should be a URINE test for you all's ROLS pots, depending on how many CCs of urine you can pour into your soil at one time without burning your plants can provide a scale of 1-5 on how FREAKY your ROLS container is!
Another Shot of BC 37 days into flowering
DankSwag
headtreep
Well-Known Member
Seriously man it's that simple. Soil gets better with time and even more effective when you no till and start a permaculture type setup in your pots which is what we basically do.
KLITE
Well-Known Member
Shit well put! Permaculture type set up!
Also do you find you have less work, guesswork and stress growing like this? Also the amount of money saved on bags of soil is outrageous. Almost like quitting tobacco and making a kitty with the money spent on it type of thing. Well mixing soil is work, but if you have a cement mixer it becomes fun lol
Also do you find you have less work, guesswork and stress growing like this? Also the amount of money saved on bags of soil is outrageous. Almost like quitting tobacco and making a kitty with the money spent on it type of thing. Well mixing soil is work, but if you have a cement mixer it becomes fun lol
headtreep
Well-Known Member
I have more free time than I know what to do with and this style of cultivation really suits someone with disabilities. I couldn't go back to all those transplants.
No stress no guess it just flows.
DANKSWAG
Well-Known Member
HeadTreep,
I've read Teaming with Microbes, Building Soils Naturally. Have not read One Straw Revolution, but will look it up, any other suggestions. I've been so busying mixing and blending soils for a grower $$! Busy getting my own organic farm business of the ground as well
Got a question do you know what this is?
DankSwag
Attachments
headtreep
Well-Known Member
One plant looks like comfrey man but pics blurred on my end.
st0wandgrow
Well-Known Member
One of the first batches of soil I made following fun times 3 category soil recipe went wrong. Not sure why, but it had me scratching my head not knowing what was up and how to fix it. Turns out I had lockout from my ph being at around 4.5. I bought a soil test probe, identified the problem, and moved on. I haven't had to use it since, but I don't understand why it's so frowned upon?
RedCarpetMatches
Well-Known Member
You've grown in high PH/ppm water with no issues? I had early fade issues with 8.5 4-500 ppm water. Switched to RO water and haven't had any issues yet.