Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

headtreep

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KLITE said:
Isnt the point of teas to add beneficial microbes to the medium so that the plant can better uptake the nutrients in medium? I love top dressing too though i doubt id go a whole cycle without at least a couple of teas.
BTW if you guys are interested in witnessing the miracles of foliar feeding pop into my thread KLITE's huerto in gardening every now and then. I foliar my farm once or twice a week and the response is great!
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Klite I run an ACT with a new soil and in start of veg and flower. I have observed after 3 or 4 cycles the teas haven't made a noticeable difference. The only thing that really catches my attention still is SST and Coconut water. Hormones basically for rapid growth and fast finishing. Terps and purps!! Rock hard buds.

I'll check it out Klite. Still sorting through unread threads atm.
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st0wandgrow

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KLITE said:
Isnt the point of teas to add beneficial microbes to the medium so that the plant can better uptake the nutrients in medium? I love top dressing too though i doubt id go a whole cycle without at least a couple of teas.
BTW if you guys are interested in witnessing the miracles of foliar feeding pop into my thread KLITE's huerto in gardening every now and then. I foliar my farm once or twice a week and the response is great!
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I've found that since my worm bins are kicking out enough castings to amend my soil, and top dress when needed the soil is thoroughly inoculated. I think there comes a point of diminishing returns when it comes to microbe population. If you're using a good source of compost the soil should already be loaded with bene's. To me ACT's make the most sense if you're short on castings and want to stretch them out, or if you're using an inferior source of compost and want to jump start it with a tea.

I foliar spray once every couple weeks, but I've just been using silica, aloe, and tea tree oil. The plants seem to dig that. I don't think teas are bad per se. I just don't find them necessary any more. I usually wet my soil down with an ACT prior to letting it sit, and then maybe one more during veg and that's it. No more nutrient teas or SST's for me. The simple approach seems to be working just as well
 
KLITE

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Ive never tried a sprouted seed tea. Do you use rye or? Do you use it towards the end of flower? Do you dilute it or use it straight up?
 
headtreep

headtreep

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st0wandgrow said:
I've found that since my worm bins are kicking out enough castings to amend my soil, and top dress when needed the soil is thoroughly inoculated. I think there comes a point of diminishing returns when it comes to microbe population. If you're using a good source of compost the soil should already be loaded with bene's. To me ACT's make the most sense if you're short on castings and want to stretch them out, or if you're using an inferior source of compost and want to jump start it with a tea.

I foliar spray once every couple weeks, but I've just been using silica, aloe, and tea tree oil. The plants seem to dig that. I don't think teas are bad per se. I just don't find them necessary any more. I usually wet my soil down with an ACT prior to letting it sit, and then maybe one more during veg and that's it. No more nutrient teas or SST's for me. The simple approach seems to be working just as well
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You seem to be advocating the same basic information as myself. Again we are practically the same. I'm sorry your experience at LOS sucked. I'm going to look into this.
 
KLITE

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Really seems that after a few cycles the microbe poluation reaches peak then. Perhaps inculating at start of every grow will be more than enough, it seems?
Also what is LOS? sorry for ignorance
 
st0wandgrow

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I was using alfalfa seeds and un-hulled barley seeds. Grass seeds of any variety are good as well. I think veg and early flower is the recommended approach
 
st0wandgrow

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KLITE said:
Really seems that after a few cycles the microbe poluation reaches peak then. Perhaps inculating at start of every grow will be more than enough, it seems?
Also what is LOS? sorry for ignorance
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LivingOrganicSoil.org. It's a web site started by gascanastan. I got booted from it for daring to disagree with him (and his wife). :-)

Great source of info, but a little pretentious for my taste.
 
headtreep

headtreep

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KLITE said:
Ive never tried a sprouted seed tea. Do you use rye or? Do you use it towards the end of flower? Do you dilute it or use it straight up?
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I got a sproutmo to make SST easy. Real easy and just like st0wandgrow I've busy and recovering still from injury so my time for bubbling is limited. I use a half cup in the device of whatever is cheap and organic which for me is mung beans. Once you get a sprout your ready to blend with a little water. I use that half cup of bean slurry an mix with 5 gal water and FULVIC acid. I don't even strain. Drench the root zones and then water the rest in. I've never had results with heavy enzyme teas.

1x per week either SST or Coconut water. If you don't want to do the SST, try the coconut water every once in awhile especially in flower.
 
KLITE

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LivingOrganicSoil.org. It's a web site started by gascanastan. I got booted from it for daring to disagree with him (and his wife). :-)

Great source of info, but a little pretentious for my taste.
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Shit man getting booted off a forum for disagreeing with the owners? Did they let you take a piece of birthday cake at least? How childish!

SST and kelp are the only things I brew lately.
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Im personally in love with Kelp and have been for a while.
 
KLITE

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I got a sproutmo to make SST easy. Real easy and just like st0wandgrow I've busy and recovering still from injury so my time for bubbling is limited. I use a half cup in the device of whatever is cheap and organic which for me is mung beans. Once you get a sprout your ready to blend with a little water. I use that half cup of bean slurry an mix with 5 gal water and FULVIC acid. I don't even strain. Drench the root zones and then water the rest in. I've never had results with heavy enzyme teas.

1x per week either SST or Coconut water. If you don't want to do the SST, try the coconut water every once in awhile especially in flower.
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Ive used coconut water before but for the size of the grow its just not viable!
I will be giving the seed tea a try, i thought a lot more seed would be needed. I like how youre using moong beans man, i make a good daal with them but how can they be cheaper than a grain? Ive got rye for my fungi, will try that. Can i brew 100 gallons at a time or will i turn out with beer? lol
 
headtreep

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KLITE said:
Ive used coconut water before but for the size of the grow its just not viable!
I will be giving the seed tea a try, i thought a lot more seed would be needed. I like how youre using moong beans man, i make a good daal with them but how can they be cheaper than a grain? Ive got rye for my fungi, will try that. Can i brew 100 gallons at a time or will i turn out with beer? lol
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Even a little goes a long way. I use half gal or so in my 100 gal containers followed with water and it makes a big difference. Grain for me would be going to a brewstore or ordering online atm. I do have some rye in my backyard hehe.. Mung beans are 1.99 lb but your'e right prob could get even cheaper with another sprouting seed source. I haven't went looking again.
 
KLITE

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Even a little goes a long way. I use half gal or so in my 100 gal containers followed with water and it makes a big difference. Grain for me would be going to a brewstore or ordering online atm. I do have some rye in my backyard hehe.. Mung beans are 1.99 lb but your'e right prob could get even cheaper with another sprouting seed source. I haven't went looking again.
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Even a little of what sorry? the tea or the seeds? A quick question how do you remove seed from bottom of res to water so it doesnt go and clog up the pump? Cracking my head around that.
Have you tried sprouting the mung beans and eating them in a salad? Crazy healthy aparently...
 
hyroot

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@headtreep do you still use mung beans for sst? Unhulled barley is impossible to find locally... I've been using mung beans since you posted it a long time ago... they are the easiest to sprout.. Do you think the green shells produce any nitrogen once broken down? I know the nutritional info for the sprouts doesn't show any nitrogen. That probably does't count the shell or what ever you call it.. Its too damn difficult to separate unless I were to strain tea. ... thoughts?
 
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