out of control TRAINWRECK! please help! w/pics

dumbthumb

dumbthumb

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Hello all, this is my second grow ever, and at this point I have an eviable problem, my 5 T/W's have gotten too big, as they are in the backyard along the fence w/ my nieghbors. Were cool, she knows it's purely medicinal, and is alroght with it, but out of respect, I'd like to keep it on the q/t a bit for her, just enough to keep it from being visible from the street in front of her house.

I nursed these under cfl lights for about 6 weeks from clones, Trotting them out into natural sunlight whenever possible, just keeping the 18/6 cycle, then transplanting them outside on 5/28. I will attach pictures of their progression...errr...explosion. So far I've topped the main stems and tied them over some, but now I have branches topping the fence, most of which are tied down as well. Five plants must look like 30 from the air, but I have my permit enlarged and angled skywards, for the local fuzz.

What can I do to help, how far can I pull them down? Can I repull one pulled already without snapping them off? Can I top the branches as well? If so, can someone please point me in the right direction as to how it should be done?

Just for reference, I mixed my own soil from compost and additives, all 'organic', or as close as I could come. I do have my recipe, and I think it is working quite well, maybe a little too well. Last year they were not this large, at harvest, and I used FF soil for that run. I feed no nutes, only ph'ed tap water from a 55 gal. drum that I pressurize and run through a drip system, purely for convenience.

I have a bunch of pics of the t/w's, as well as a few of the little 3, from dispensary clones.

Any help will be appreciated, comments are welcome as well. Tell me how I'm doing, please!

Thanx
 

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akgrown

akgrown

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Damn I would start trimming branches, afterall it is a weed it will recover and man of man those things are huge, expect some serious poundage from that harvest. Prune the foilage that gets little sunlight. You can also bring som of the branches down by lst'ing them to those buckets. awesome grow and +rep.
 
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hic

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I have the same problem! I have only one and it is not nearly the size of yours but it is much bigger then I thought it would get! What an awsome strain,branches everywhere.
 
SmokesLikeBob

SmokesLikeBob

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Man, that's the nicest backyard I've ever seen!!! LST would be the only solution, maybe even some cloning to get rid of a little foliage!

SLB
 
dumbthumb

dumbthumb

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Thanks for the words, folks! No way did I expect what's become known as 'the hedge' to get so out of hand. At ground level, these things have almost 2 inch stems.

So I assume it's okay to keep pulling them over. I made some leather straps with holes in the ends to act as cushions around the stalks for the tie downs to attach. I did read about the LST technique, but I thought I was beyond that at this point.

Ahh, a job for in the morning!
 
SmokesLikeBob

SmokesLikeBob

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Gotta be very careful with them, I would imagine that their stems are rather hard at this point, and not as flexible as before, but a small amount of LST could still be done...I can only imagine the yield on something of that magnitude...


SLB
 
Klo$etBreeder

Klo$etBreeder

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the smaller stems up towards the top can still be LST'd and bent downwards or towards you yard and youcan keep them growing horizantal instead of vertical, you can also bend the larger harder branches as well it just must be done at a much slower pace like a few inches a day but as the days go by the bends will create more cellulose and become thicker as the plant is healing itself and thinking it needs to mend a broken branch you'll also notice that when you start bending the main stalks up top that the plant will bush more and more all the little branches will grow faster as they are competing to see who gets to become the "leader"...just remember whateer you do do it slowly and dont do alot in a day, if it feels like your going too far its almost a sure thing that any further and your gonna snap it, oh and watch for branches trying to twist insted of bend they will twist apart and wont bend like theyre broken but they will be opened up letting the chance for infection/mold get in there.

if your all legal id just say fuck it, you didnt know..I understand it's out of respect but theres only so much you can do at this point and you still have a few months of growth coming..plus flowering your looking at an LB per plant if not more
 
dumbthumb

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Thanks again, for the clarification on LST'ing these things at this late stage. I will try to pull them over and be as careful as I ca not to cause damage. Seems like a non-stop task at this point.

My plants are too big.....just a horrible thing to complain about!:eyesmoke:

to answer tarx16's query, my soil mix was as follows:

2/3 native topsoil, which had been previously used, and is a little clay-like
1/3 compost from the local dump.
composted chicken manure(1 bag)
60 pounds worm castings
Bio-flora dry crumbles, 12 pounds( I think this is made from turkey manure)
steamed bone meal
sul-pho-mag powder
ironite
oyster shell calcium
powdered gypsum
hydrated lime(only 2 cups)
vermiculite

For the most part, I used all as directed on the bags, minus about 10% just to be safe. It did take some figuring, as some of the charts were based on cubic yards of soil, so I did some educated guestimating. I split this between the raised bed and the three half-barrels the little guys are in. The barrels have screen on the bottom, then about 3" of small river rock, then filled with the soil blend.

I obtained everthing from the local nursery, they were nice enough to sell me small amounts of those things I didn't need full bags of. My total soil+amendment cost was $135.

I did this mix totally by the seat of my pants, I think I got very lucky. The soil PH is 6.0 on a friend's meter, and I adjust my water ph to 6.5-7. I have checked the run=off ph from the barrels and it it 7 as well.

I plan to apply a top dressing of crumbles, ironite and sul-pho-mag in about a week. So far I have fed no nutes, doesn't look as if I need to. I have FF products on hand for flower season, should I need them.

I am looking forward to a bumper crop this time around, got 3 lbs from last year's 6 plants in the same raised bed, and it is almost all gone now. With these 5 monsters, I should have a bit of a cushion this time around.
 
chronic coinoisseur

chronic coinoisseur

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+Rep. Nice job dude you've done everything right so far. Really good job on the soil I have something similiar(I modified and tweaked Vics super soil). It seems like a lot of work now but come harvest time when you have got pounds of cheeba its nothing but ear to ear grins.
 
doublejj

doublejj

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Great job!

I know one way for you to gain 2ft of height, but it involves a lot of digging. If you put your pots in holes, you can get another 2ft!

Peace
doublejj
P.S. Click on the link below to see pic's of my carport greenhouse, maybe you could put one over your plants. Out of sight, out of mind.
 
tarx16

tarx16

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dumbthumb said:
Thanks again, for the clarification on LST'ing these things at this late stage. I will try to pull them over and be as careful as I ca not to cause damage. Seems like a non-stop task at this point.

My plants are too big.....just a horrible thing to complain about!:eyesmoke:

to answer tarx16's query, my soil mix was as follows:

2/3 native topsoil, which had been previously used, and is a little clay-like
1/3 compost from the local dump.
composted chicken manure(1 bag)
60 pounds worm castings
Bio-flora dry crumbles, 12 pounds( I think this is made from turkey manure)
steamed bone meal
sul-pho-mag powder
ironite
oyster shell calcium
powdered gypsum
hydrated lime(only 2 cups)
vermiculite

For the most part, I used all as directed on the bags, minus about 10% just to be safe. It did take some figuring, as some of the charts were based on cubic yards of soil, so I did some educated guestimating. I split this between the raised bed and the three half-barrels the little guys are in. The barrels have screen on the bottom, then about 3" of small river rock, then filled with the soil blend.

I obtained everthing from the local nursery, they were nice enough to sell me small amounts of those things I didn't need full bags of. My total soil+amendment cost was $135.

I did this mix totally by the seat of my pants, I think I got very lucky. The soil PH is 6.0 on a friend's meter, and I adjust my water ph to 6.5-7. I have checked the run=off ph from the barrels and it it 7 as well.

I plan to apply a top dressing of crumbles, ironite and sul-pho-mag in about a week. So far I have fed no nutes, doesn't look as if I need to. I have FF products on hand for flower season, should I need them.

I am looking forward to a bumper crop this time around, got 3 lbs from last year's 6 plants in the same raised bed, and it is almost all gone now. With these 5 monsters, I should have a bit of a cushion this time around.
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Thank you so very much for taking the time to answer my question. All my best wishes for the best harvest and yield.
 
sodalite

sodalite

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dont know if anyone has said it already didnt read it all if so sorry to repeat. but when tieing your plants down tie them when they are as dry as you let them get they will be much more flexible and less likely to get snapped. once they are bent water and youll have no problem. peace good grow my trainwreck is out of control also ive only one but she is over 8' probly 9' and branching like crazy. thats why they named it that cause it looks like a big mess. its true.
 
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tuxedotoker

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sodalite said:
dont know if anyone has said it already didnt read it all if so sorry to repeat. but when tieing your plants down tie them when they are as dry as you let them get they will be much more flexible and less likely to get snapped. once they are bent water and youll have no problem. peace good grow my trainwreck is out of control also ive only one but she is over 8' probly 9' and branching like crazy. thats why they named it that cause it looks like a big mess. its true.
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If the plant/ stem is dry it will break more easily Vs a plant with plenty of water will have bendy stems.

To the OP: fantastic trees you have there!
 
sodalite

sodalite

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tuxedotoker i disagree if it needs watering it bends more easily your wrong. when well watered they will be stiff and more prone to breakage. sorry. ive done this for years and learned the hard way many times before it clicked in my head.
 
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tuxedotoker

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sodalite said:
tuxedotoker i disagree if it needs watering it bends more easily your wrong. when well watered they will be stiff and more prone to breakage. sorry. ive done this for years and learned the hard way many times before it clicked in my head.
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Not enough clicking apparently.

Anyways, continue.
 
sodalite

sodalite

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a yea whatever. grow youll find out. sorry buddy but your an ass. show us your grow and how you tie.
 
sodalite

sodalite

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never seen a plant that needs watering before weeping? enough said. i try not to argue with people who have no clue but sometimes its hard ive been growing for more than 18 years tuxedoman maybe when you get some expierience youll find out.
 
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