My first CXB 3590 run...

21 days, 3 weeks in and they are stacking. I have examined all of the other 14 plants without finding anything like what was on the two that wanted to be chic's with dicks. The two that flipped herm had issues from the first day of flower. There was some strange cal deficiency none of the other plants from the same pheno. I hope the rest stay girls and I hope that it was a random adoration rather than a trend...

Looking good bro sorry to hear about the 2 that hermed on ya hopefully the rest stay on track

Humble grower said:

Looking good bro sorry to hear about the 2 that hermed on ya hopefully the rest stay on track

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Thank you @Humble grower for the well wishes.

I'm thinking that the combination of some nute issues with those two and the switching from 12/12 to 13.5/10.5 using the far reds stressed them a bit ant they popped balls. This time of year all the wells are being pumped hard for water, the calcium carbonate in the water destroys RO systems. I have had a hard time finding good RO water before and have just now found a better source. I don't have room for my own at the moment but would love not to heft water... One of the joys of a desert grower...

PerroVerde said:

I'm thinking that the combination of some nute issues with those two and the switching from 12/12 to 13.5/10.5 using the far reds stressed them a bit ant they popped balls. This time of year all the wells are being pumped hard for water, the calcium carbonate in the water destroys RO systems. I have had a hard time finding good RO water before and have just now found a better source. I don't have room for my own at the moment but would love not to heft water... One of the joys of a desert grower...

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I hear you. I live in a very hard water area with tap water reading 2+ EC regularly. I have to buy RO water in 5 gallon bottles and it is a major pita. I was toying with the idea of buying my own RO system... I did not realise calcium carbonate killed them!! That is kinda ironic since that is the whole point of having them lol.

Looking good brother...Glad the rest are girls...Damn Trannys always tryna act like girls lol...
(no offense to Transgenders)
I didn't do the 13.5 lights on schedule like u did this run,but i will next run...so i can compare..And i just ordered another load from Jerry..Gonna put 3000k on the 3500k bars and use the 3500k for veg...but i should have my order from Steves Led so I will have that added to the 3500k side to see what it does even tho it will be halfway thru flower..o well..I will def keep u up to date with how it goes...One thing I love about these forums and all is if it is utilized for its intended purpose,there is so much positive and beneficial gains sharing knowledge and results from real life experimenting...Always funny when i see ur pics,cuz ur girls always look identical to mines...lol..happy growing,and peace an love bro

MrTwist1 said:

I hear you. I live in a very hard water area with tap water reading 2+ EC regularly. I have to buy RO water in 5 gallon bottles and it is a major pita. I was toying with the idea of buying my own RO system... I did not realise calcium carbonate killed them!! That is kinda ironic since that is the whole point of having them lol.

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Well any concentrated salt is rough on RO membranes. Here the "RO" can be as high as .9 EC even with periodic servicing. Cloramine dose a number as well so if you don't run a pre filter and de-ionizer it tears a membrane up also. I love lugging 5-6 5 gallon jugs every couple days...

dro-man80 said:

Looking good brother...Glad the rest are girls...Damn Trannys always tryna act like girls lol...
(no offense to Transgenders)
I didn't do the 13.5 lights on schedule like u did this run,but i will next run...so i can compare..And i just ordered another load from Jerry..Gonna put 3000k on the 3500k bars and use the 3500k for veg...but i should have my order from Steves Led so I will have that added to the 3500k side to see what it does even tho it will be halfway thru flower..o well..I will def keep u up to date with how it goes...One thing I love about these forums and all is if it is utilized for its intended purpose,there is so much positive and beneficial gains sharing knowledge and results from real life experimenting...Always funny when i see ur pics,cuz ur girls always look identical to mines...lol..happy growing,and peace an love bro

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Thank you for stopping in @dro-man80 !
The roots on the two that had the nuts were stellar, thick, white and full. I really feel I pushed them a bit hard and these two didn't respond well. I don't think it's the cultivar or breeders problem. I really look forward to seeing more of your grow and build.

been running r/o for 20 years in hard cali water , just flush the membrane regularly & they should last for a few years
mine are at least 3 years old & still show a low ppm , as meter don't go that low , but place same meter in my tap it's 450ppm

i use all 1/4 pipe fitting & build my own the casing are cheap a great membrane about $50
I use 1 sedimite & 2 carbon block filters
you can gang them , daisy chain style to save waste water
i was just out there fucking with mine , pumped a bunch of waste water on the maple trees

Fastslappy said:

been running r/o for 20 years in hard cali water , just flush the membrane regularly & they should last for a few years
mine are at least 3 years old & still show a low ppm , as meter don't go that low , but place same meter in my tap it's 450ppm

i use all 1/4 pipe fitting & build my own the casing are cheap a great membrane about $50
I use 1 sedimite & 2 carbon block filters
you can gang them , daisy chain style to save waste water
i was just out there fucking with mine , pumped a bunch of waste water on the maple trees

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As the use of cloramine spreads more and organic gardeners are turning to multiple filters and RO to be able to not kill off the benies...

I do know in the L A basin they have to use pressure pumps on their r/o systems to limit the waste water
the idea to force more h20 thru the membrane & have it self flush itself with high velocity flow across the membrane
this saves the waste as it's recycled back thru a loop system
those are not cheap but actually it's only a $100 pump & know how to pipe it
I use my waste in my garden

added up what me & the wife spent on bottled water a month , I now lug 5 gal bottles into the house
& have a office watercooler

Fastslappy said:

I do know in the L A basin they have to use pressure pumps on their r/o systems to limit the waste water
the idea to force more h20 thru the membrane & have it self flush itself with high velocity flow across the membrane
this saves the waste as it's recycled back thru a loop system
those are not cheap but actually it's only a $100 pump & know how to pipe it
I use my waste in my garden

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The hard water here can be as high as 1.8 EC mostly calcium carbonate which can lock out a grow big time.... if I get the space set up I will have a nice RO system and a couple 50 gallon barrels with shutoff floats...

twin 55 bbls & a pressure pump to recycle the waste (one 55 would be the recycle waste bbl )
I know guys would hook up their bathrooms / toilets to use the waste water
the bbl can be had salvage or new 65$
PVC is cheap

28 days, 4 weeks in, 5 weeks to go and these girls are doing their thing. One pheno is dense and covered in trics the other has more bud sites and looser so far. They smell like evil berries is the best way to describe these girls at this point...

Well this has not been the stellar show case run, not in the least. I cut down five of the #2 pheno tonight do to some shit bud formation and very little tric coverage. The buds were almost all brands and leaf with little to no colax. It's just a pheno thing....

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Well this has not been the stellar show case run, not in the least. I cut down five of the #2 pheno tonight do to some shit bud formation and very little tric coverage. The buds were almost all brands and leaf with little to no colax. It's just a pheno thing....
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Damn my man tht sucks brother...I have never seen tht type of bud growth as of yet specifically..I think i would of did the same thing...so ur just gonna finish out the other few girl right?
Thoe are looking really frosty so i hope they rock it for u...good thing is ,the runs almost over for the new batch to go in...Im assuming these were seed runs correct brother?
u have my best wishes and luck my friend..hopefully "Deformed Darcy" is the only time the girls do this to ya..I had a freebie Autoflower from SingleSeedCenter tht kinda did the same thing but was like an all foxtail bud from the onset of flowering..Weird...Much love an peace my friend,,and my condolences on the death of the few girls...I know how i feel when something goes left in my grows too,,
Are u gonna run the WhiteBerry again in the future,,,how did u like tht smoke from those girls..I still wanna try those cuz of ur pics from previous run with her..anyhow much love and peace...

Thanks for stopping in @dro-man80! I popped 8 seeds I believe and got the two female pheno's. One is growing some crystal covered rocks and the other had the tumble weed style growth and you would have to sell it by gun point. Once I have confirmed females I will clone them and run the clones or mom the clones out depending on what's going on. I have nine of the same pheno now and I have picked a couple manners of them but nothing to crazy. I'm only going to give them three more week unless the really show me they want or need more. These did throw some nanners but I did keep a clone and if they are a yielder and super nice smoke I can run them with some reversal or something.

The smoke I had from my keeper pheno a few years back growing out the white berry kush before was a great smoke. Super frosty and tasty with a heavy, happy hit you in the head with an axe handle type high. Perfect for when your thinking to much or just needed to have your dinner switch hit.

I have Gorilla Bubble and Solo's Stash in veg and will be taking clones as soon as they show me dots and girls. Growing is a learning process, we do the best we can, take notes and regroup...

Great reply brother lol..had me laughing and nodding my head like ,"yes aint tht the truth" all in the same breath haha..
I guess once u become pretty cool with someone on the forums u actually treat them like homies lol,so i felt extra bad and even got a lil upset about the deformed girl lol,like its my damn grow haha..
ya one of my favorite phenos in my grow threw some nanners and its a keeper from what im seing so i cloned her and hopefully the clones dont nanner but "optic foliar" sells a product called switch for hermies tht a few of my buddies swear by if u wanna keep ya hermed girls...im going to pick up a bottle just in case she goes a lil crazy again...
is there any seed company u know of tht sells the WhiteBerrykush?? I would love to give her a run one day,but no biggie if its not available anymore..more then enough killer gentics in the arsenal lol..have a blessed day my friend..peace an love

dro-man80 said:

Great reply brother lol..had me laughing and nodding my head like ,"yes aint tht the truth" all in the same breath haha..
I guess once u become pretty cool with someone on the forums u actually treat them like homies lol,so i felt extra bad and even got a lil upset about the deformed girl lol,like its my damn grow haha..
ya one of my favorite phenos in my grow threw some nanners and its a keeper from what im seing so i cloned her and hopefully the clones dont nanner but "optic foliar" sells a product called switch for hermies tht a few of my buddies swear by if u wanna keep ya hermed girls...im going to pick up a bottle just in case she goes a lil crazy again...
is there any seed company u know of tht sells the WhiteBerrykush?? I would love to give her a run one day,but no biggie if its not available anymore..more then enough killer gentics in the arsenal lol..have a blessed day my friend..peace an love

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The WBK was a small run of seeds by a private breeder from a few years back. I have more seeds to go through but like you said there are so many options in the market now.

The wife told me it made her sick to her stomach to see me cut those girls down but she hates harvest time too and calls all of the plants "the children".

I saw the optic foliar spray but I was to far along to try it. I believe you use it at 7 and 17 days in and it either keeps nanners from forming or reduces and makes the pollen sterile.

@dro-man80 , what breeders or who's genetics are your favorite?