My first CXB 3590 run...

PerroVerde said:

The light is 8 CXB 3590 3500k cobs at 50 watts each with 2 hlg 185 1400ma drivers.

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that's exactly what I'm building that basic unit of ; 3590's as 4 cob per / pushed by a single 185-1400 meanwell
Where's the Popcorn ?

Fastslappy said:

I use pumice & crushed hardwood charcoal added to my coco both give the beni germs somewhere to live

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Fastslappy where do you source the pumice and hardwood charcoal you use with your coco and how dose it affect the coco's PH? I found this spot a little while back has some well priced hard to find addictives for the more open minded gardner...

http://buildasoil.com/collections/supplements

http://www.bestchitosan.com/e_productshow/?22-Chitosan-Oligosaccharide-Powder-22.html

Fastslappy said:

that's exactly what I'm building that basic unit of ; 3590's as 4 cob per / pushed by a single 185-1400 meanwell
Where's the Popcorn ?

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NO! Haha jk. Same build here. But might I suggest the 240-1750? More lumens! !

Airwalker16 said:

NO! Haha jk. Same build here. But might I suggest the 240-1750? More lumens! !

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Make sure you have dimming... I think I might have light shocked this set of clones a bit even at half power. I raised the light more and took off the reflectors. We will see what comes. I will get pics of the wiring for you with lights on Airwalker...

This looks good, I'll follow along I'm hoping to do something similar - I've ordered some parts for my DIY build, so now I have to sit and wait...

MrTwist1 said:

This looks good, I'll follow along I'm hoping to do something similar - I've ordered some parts for my DIY build, so now I have to sit and wait...

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I completely understand, I ordered and waited for parts and the killer was around Christmas waiting for just a couple small things from Amazon and not being able to do anything till they arrived. At least there was Fallout 4 and Rollitup...

PerroVerde said:

Fastslappy where do you source the pumice and hardwood charcoal you use with your coco and how dose it affect the coco's PH? I found this spot a little while back has some well priced hard to find addictives for the more open minded gardner...

http://buildasoil.com/collections/supplements

http://www.bestchitosan.com/e_productshow/?22-Chitosan-Oligosaccharide-Powder-22.html

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the pumice I get from a feed store (horses) it comes under the name of DryStall fine grade pumice it's used across the USA most all feed stores carry the stuff
40 lb bag for 12-15$
used in horse stalls to keep the horse from slipping & the floor dry
100% pumice
as for hardwood charcoal , I get that @ Whole Foods
I throw a old rug over the bag & wack the fuck outta it with a mall to break up
I tried buying small fine gardening charcoal but it is Really Expensive
both act as PH buffers & if ya run beni germs PH is not a issue
+ i use diaomatios earth & rock flour for trace mineral

Airwalker16 said:

NO! Haha jk. Same build here. But might I suggest the 240-1750? More lumens! !

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nope burns too Much power 4 me I'd rather add COBs to the room than burn that high

I'll have to look into the pumice for sure. I watch PH even with running benis, hard to break hydro habits. I do like to run my PH a bit higher in coco then hydro, my plants have always liked 6.0 to 6.2 over the recommended 5.8... it's all strain/pheno dependent anyway...

Fastslappy said:

nope burns too Much power 4 me I'd rather add COBs to the room than burn that high

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That's like from 53 up to 62 man. Very very minimal increase in wattage. I just feel you could get a little more out of your light.

http://buildasoil.com/collections/supplements/products/bio-char but this cedar mostly IIRC
but actually not as good as hardwood but not bad thou
this would do the same as Whole foods but no crushing involved

I found coco very forgiving A Quick flush with R/O water solves most issues in hours most times
pumice is open cell where perlite is closed cell perlite just takes up room & gives drainage
pumice act as home for beni's that don't live well in the coco
holds water & releases slower than coco

Fastslappy said:

I found coco very forgiving A Quick flush with R/O water solves most issues in hours most times
pumice is open cell where perlite is closed cell perlite just takes up room & gives drainage
pumice act as home for beni's that don't live well in the coco
holds water & releases slower than coco

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Coco is an amazing medium to grow in, even cloned in. I've used growstones and perilite in coco and I'll definitely be checking into the pumice...

that charged biochar is a waste any beni's are dead by the time u get the charcoal imo
I got a source for biochar that actually is stone flour charged
but I buy my stone flour & crush my own (saves a wad W/F is $5 a bag)
I'll be back with some links on the stone flour
do not use Azomite ! as stone flour it's main ingredient is AL compounds

http://store.rockdustlocal.com/

the biochar & the Brix Balsalt I use right now
I'm ordering that Georges black right now
a sack of either will last years
bang 4 buck these are the best out there
always look at the make up of any rock powder
some are high in heavy metals,salts Al ect

@Fastslappy, so with everything you mix with the coco what do you feed and what is your schedule? I enjoy seeing how others run their gardens...

that's all mixed before plantin
i run G/H Nova atm migt change but I'm happy but it's expensive + i use humic/fluvic , calmag , seaweed extrac , fish hydrilize , molassis , banana peel tea
1200 - 1500ppm is what I shoot for on watering
I use terpinator & as a shooting powder I use the "Rock" resinator
& i use a daily running germ soup that i recharge with molassis & coconut/palm sugar to keep them growing

Thank you for the details Fastslapy, appreciated greatly...

Right now I'm feeding .8 to 1 EC potassium silica, Veg + Bloom RO and Life + ... I like to have the plants ask for more be for I bump up their feed. When Cal - mag is needed I add a gallon of tap water (high cal) and some Epson salt to the mix. I have a Phosphorus booster if needed or wanted in Size +, alternate fulvic/humatic acids every other watering and floralisouse plus...

with coco it's not wise to alternate anything coco is just like hydro & that coco is yer rez
you want a 5-10% waste on each watering , that keeps the salts from building
it's better to feed lightly constantly than have fluctuations imo

PerroVerde said:

floralisouse plus...

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i use this as well But it really expensive
but really all it is protein hydolorilize (fish) & humic/fulic acid + seaweed IIRC
made a reasonable copy of it by using 'Dark Energy' a hydrilize & a seaweed extract i made by soaking some kelp & enzimes & some humic/fulvic powder that I got @ Kelp4less.com
cost way less than a gallon of tha Floirlios plus last time it was $135 a gal

PerroVerde said:

Here is the video clip that made me feel compitent enough to build my own IR pontoons...

Yes this run is all coco no perilite or growstones. I try not to get caught up in adding to much cause is just more to go wrong...

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I too saw that video and thought I could do likewise! Mine is 10 stars across a 40" square tube of aluminum. Can't wait to see if the buds start earlier next time. Growmau5's videos have helped A LOT of us DIYers get started. After seeing his videos, I jumped into the DIY COB pool! I will be waiting to see if you think the 730s have speeded things up a bit.

So from your pics, are you going to run your power supplies separate from your light bar? Mine are currently separate, and I have not decided yet. Mine is a TNT build (that is tape-n-tyraps). I am still gathering experience and information before I tie it all together with some aluminum angle like yours. Thanks.