Man-made global warming is a lie and not backed up by science, claims leading meteorologist.

UncleBuck

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the "theory of gravity" is not a nebulous series of claims based on secret data, arcane mathematical assumptions, flawed computer models and assholes who jink with the numbers and alter data to make their claims seem plausible, while backpedaling furiously.

you are now engaging in reductio ad retardum.
the computer model predictions have been shown to be spot on and your allegations of impropriety are not only baseless, but disproved by the exoneration of nearly a dozen independent committees.

if you actually had a case, you wouldn't need to lie so blatantly.

termite farts and exponents.
 

UncleBuck

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the models are 100% non-predictive, dont account for dozens of major weather/climate factors, and have consistently failed to produce useful results.










WOOOOOOOPS!

kkkynes is lying relentlessly again. must mean he has a strong case.
 

Canna Sylvan

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Weather and climate are chaotic systems with no way to accurately predict that we know of yet. You can go back and analyze data all you want. It's like analyzing the lotto and figuring out the pattern. But once you play the lotto, the results were far from you hitting the jackpot.
 

Dr Kynes

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and a wall of mindless shitposts by bucklefuckle repeating his same bullshit stories over and over (independent commissions!! ohh thats hilarious!), and we are still right back where we started, the hucksters cant stop lying long enough to explain why their claims make sense.

their defenders cant seem to explain why the same assholes who "exonerated" joe paterno shortly before his arrest and conviction have the power to "exonerate" a fraudster who brought MILLIONS to their university in govt grants...

and all the pretty graphs, carefully crafted to create the illusion they desire.

on a longer timeline their "shocking" figures become ordinary, and their "correlations" vanish like a fart in the wind.
 

sheskunk

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Ocean current changes responsible for some ice ages and climate effects

In their study, the researchers say the major cooling of Earth and continental ice build-up in the Northern Hemisphere 2.7 million years ago coincided with a shift in the circulation of the ocean – which pulls in heat and carbon dioxide in the Atlantic and moves them through the deep ocean from north to south until it’s released in the Pacific.

The ocean conveyor system, Rutgers scientists believe, changed at the same time as a major expansion in the volume of the glaciers in the northern hemisphere as well as a substantial fall in sea levels. It was the Antarctic ice, they argue, that cut off heat exchange at the ocean's surface and forced it into deep water. They believe this caused global climate change at that time, not carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

Scientists believe that the different pattern of deep ocean circulation was responsible for the elevated temperatures 3 million years ago when the carbon dioxide level in the atmosphere was arguably what it is now and the temperature was 4 degree Fahrenheit higher. They say the formation of the ocean conveyor cooled the earth and created the climate we live in now.

“Our study suggests that changes in the storage of heat in the deep ocean could be as important to climate change as other hypotheses – tectonic activity or a drop in the carbon dioxide level – and likely led to one of the major climate transitions of the past 30 million years," says Yair Rosenthal, co-author and professor of marine and coastal sciences at Rutgers.

Abstract

Earth’s climate underwent a major transition from the warmth of the late Pliocene, when global surface temperatures were ~2-3°C higher than today, to extensive Northern Hemisphere glaciation (NHG) at ~2.73 Ma. We show that North Pacific deep waters were significantly colder (4°C) and likely fresher than North Atlantic deep water prior to the intensification of NHG. At ~2.73 Ma, the Atlantic-Pacific temperature gradient was reduced to less 1°C suggesting the initiation of stronger heat transfer from the North Atlantic to the deep Pacific. We posit that increased glaciation of Antarctica, deduced from the 21 ± 10 m sea-level fall from 3.15-2.75 Ma, and the development of a strong polar halocline, fundamentally altered deep ocean circulation, which enhanced inter-hemispheric heat and salt transport thereby contributing to the NHG.


http://nextbigfuture.com/2014/10/ocean-current-changes-responsible-for.html
 

Choo

Well-Known Member
"we disagree"

- 34 national academies of science
Here's the letter from 49 NASA scientists and employees asking NASA to not get involved in the man made global warming issue because it is unsubstantiated.

March 28, 2012





The Honorable Charles Bolden, Jr.
NASA Administrator
NASA Headquarters
Washington, D.C. 20546-0001

Dear Charlie,

We, the undersigned, respectfully request that NASA and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) refrain from including unproven remarks in public releases and websites. We believe the claims by NASA and GISS, that man-made carbon dioxide is having a catastrophic impact on global climate change are not substantiated, especially when considering thousands of years of empirical data. With hundreds of well-known climate scientists and tens of thousands of other scientists publicly declaring their disbelief in the catastrophic forecasts, coming particularly from the GISS leadership, it is clear that the science is NOT settled.

The unbridled advocacy of CO2 being the major cause of climate change is unbecoming of NASA’s history of making an objective assessment of all available scientific data prior to making decisions or public statements.

As former NASA employees, we feel that NASA’s advocacy of an extreme position, prior to a thorough study of the possible overwhelming impact of natural climate drivers is inappropriate. We request that NASA refrain from including unproven and unsupported remarks in its future releases and websites on this subject. At risk is damage to the exemplary reputation of NASA, NASA’s current or former scientists and employees, and even the reputation of science itself.

For additional information regarding the science behind our concern, we recommend that you contact Harrison Schmitt or Walter Cunningham, or others they can recommend to you.

Thank you for considering this request.

Sincerely,

(Attached signatures)

CC: Mr. John Grunsfeld, Associate Administrator for Science

CC: Ass Mr. Chris Scolese, Director, Goddard Space Flight Center

Ref: Letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, dated 3-26-12, regarding a request for NASA to refrain from making unsubstantiated claims that human produced CO2 is having a catastrophic impact on climate change.

/s/ Jack Barneburg, Jack – JSC, Space Shuttle Structures, Engineering Directorate, 34 years

/s/ Larry Bell – JSC, Mgr. Crew Systems Div., Engineering Directorate, 32 years

/s/ Dr. Donald Bogard – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 41 years

/s/ Jerry C. Bostick – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 23 years

/s/ Dr. Phillip K. Chapman – JSC, Scientist – astronaut, 5 years

/s/ Michael F. Collins, JSC, Chief, Flight Design and Dynamics Division, MOD, 41 years

/s/ Dr. Kenneth Cox – JSC, Chief Flight Dynamics Div., Engr. Directorate, 40 years

/s/ Walter Cunningham – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 7, 8 years

/s/ Dr. Donald M. Curry – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Leading Edge, Thermal Protection Sys., Engr. Dir., 44 years

/s/ Leroy Day – Hdq. Deputy Director, Space Shuttle Program, 19 years

/s/ Dr. Henry P. Decell, Jr. – JSC, Chief, Theory & Analysis Office, 5 years

/s/Charles F. Deiterich – JSC, Mgr., Flight Operations Integration, MOD, 30 years

/s/ Dr. Harold Doiron – JSC, Chairman, Shuttle Pogo Prevention Panel, 16 years

/s/ Charles Duke – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 16, 10 years

/s/ Anita Gale

/s/ Grace Germany – JSC, Program Analyst, 35 years

/s/ Ed Gibson – JSC, Astronaut Skylab 4, 14 years

/s/ Richard Gordon – JSC, Astronaut, Gemini Xi, Apollo 12, 9 years

/s/ Gerald C. Griffin – JSC, Apollo Flight Director, and Director of Johnson Space Center, 22 years

/s/ Thomas M. Grubbs – JSC, Chief, Aircraft Maintenance and Engineering Branch, 31 years

/s/ Thomas J. Harmon

/s/ David W. Heath – JSC, Reentry Specialist, MOD, 30 years

/s/ Miguel A. Hernandez, Jr. – JSC, Flight crew training and operations, 3 years

/s/ James R. Roundtree – JSC Branch Chief, 26 years

/s/ Enoch Jones – JSC, Mgr. SE&I, Shuttle Program Office, 26 years

/s/ Dr. Joseph Kerwin – JSC, Astronaut, Skylab 2, Director of Space and Life Sciences, 22 years

/s/ Jack Knight – JSC, Chief, Advanced Operations and Development Division, MOD, 40 years

/s/ Dr. Christopher C. Kraft – JSC, Apollo Flight Director and Director of Johnson Space Center, 24 years

/s/ Paul C. Kramer – JSC, Ass.t for Planning Aeroscience and Flight Mechanics Div., Egr. Dir., 34 years

/s/ Alex (Skip) Larsen

/s/ Dr. Lubert Leger – JSC, Ass’t. Chief Materials Division, Engr. Directorate, 30 years

/s/ Dr. Humbolt C. Mandell – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Program Control and Advance Programs, 40 years

/s/ Donald K. McCutchen – JSC, Project Engineer – Space Shuttle and ISS Program Offices, 33 years

/s/ Thomas L. (Tom) Moser – Hdq. Dep. Assoc. Admin. & Director, Space Station Program, 28 years

/s/ Dr. George Mueller – Hdq., Assoc. Adm., Office of Space Flight, 6 years

/s/ Tom Ohesorge

/s/ James Peacock – JSC, Apollo and Shuttle Program Office, 21 years

/s/ Richard McFarland – JSC, Mgr. Motion Simulators, 28 years

/s/ Joseph E. Rogers – JSC, Chief, Structures and Dynamics Branch, Engr. Directorate,40 years

/s/ Bernard J. Rosenbaum – JSC, Chief Engineer, Propulsion and Power Division, Engr. Dir., 48 years

/s/ Dr. Harrison (Jack) Schmitt – JSC, Astronaut Apollo 17, 10 years

/s/ Gerard C. Shows – JSC, Asst. Manager, Quality Assurance, 30 years

/s/ Kenneth Suit – JSC, Ass’t Mgr., Systems Integration, Space Shuttle, 37 years

/s/ Robert F. Thompson – JSC, Program Manager, Space Shuttle, 44 years/s/ Frank Van Renesselaer – Hdq., Mgr. Shuttle Solid Rocket Boosters, 15 years

/s/ Dr. James Visentine – JSC Materials Branch, Engineering Directorate, 30 years

/s/ Manfred (Dutch) von Ehrenfried – JSC, Flight Controller; Mercury, Gemini & Apollo, MOD, 10 years
 

Padawanbater2

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For additional information regarding the science behind our concern, we recommend that you contact Harrison Schmitt or Walter Cunningham, or others they can recommend to you.
Schmitt-

"He spoke at the March 2009 International Conference on Climate Change sponsored by the Heartland Institute."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Schmitt#Global_warming

Cunningham-

"Cunningham has been an advocate against the theory of anthropogenic global warming (AGW). In 2010, he published a pamphlet titled "Global Warming: Facts versus Faith" in which he states: "The current debate is not unlike Galileo's historic disagreement with the Catholic Church, or the battle over evolution versus creationism. In all three cases, facts are pitted against faith and science against religion. The conflict over global warming has deteriorated into a religious war between true believers in AGW and non-believers, the so-called "skeptics"." This report was published by the Heartland Institute, a conservative think tank engaged in "dispelling myths about global warming". The Heartland Institute has, in its publications, made four points:

"Most scientists do not believe human activities threaten to disrupt the Earth's climate." "The most reliable temperature data show no global warming trend." "A modest amount of global warming, should it occur, would be beneficial to the natural world and to human civilization." "The best strategy to pursue is one of 'no regrets'.""

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Cunningham#Global_warming_views


Two ancient fucks connected to the Heartland Institute... Surprise surprise..
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
and a wall of mindless shitposts by bucklefuckle repeating his same bullshit stories over and over (independent commissions!! ohh thats hilarious!), and we are still right back where we started, the hucksters cant stop lying long enough to explain why their claims make sense.

their defenders cant seem to explain why the same assholes who "exonerated" joe paterno shortly before his arrest and conviction have the power to "exonerate" a fraudster who brought MILLIONS to their university in govt grants...

and all the pretty graphs, carefully crafted to create the illusion they desire.

on a longer timeline their "shocking" figures become ordinary, and their "correlations" vanish like a fart in the wind.
so the 8 separate commissions that exonerated the scientists were not independent of each other?

speaking of hucksters that can't stop lying long enough to explain why their claims make sense, did termites suddenly start fucking like crazy at the start of the industrial age, kkkynes?
 

jahbrudda

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If the information isn't from some left loon website promoting climate alarmism, padaraper refuses to accept it.
 

Canna Sylvan

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Is someone going to start linking peer reviewed research that disputes the claims of climate science?
It takes lots of money to fund such an endevor. The world government position is to endorse the lie. Those who feel otherwise lose their jobs.

There are also atheist pastors and ministers who have a private online support group.
 

Padawanbater2

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Deciphering...

"No, there is no peer reviewed scientific research which I would like to cite to back my arguments."
Their complete lack of reasoning is simply astonishing..

The dude sandbagged himself into believing in a global conspiracy comprised of hundreds of thousands of people and decades of research. Proof positive some people can't comprehend the simples bits of information..
 

Padawanbater2

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I can list plenty of people who lost their jobs at the university professor level for saying ACC is utter bullshit.
They lost their job because they're clearly incompetent

Just like a history teacher would lose his job if the administration discovered he denied the holocaust

Then you'd come in and yell "Conspiracy!"
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
They lost their job because they're clearly incompetent

Just like a history teacher would lose his job if the administration discovered he denied the holocaust

Then you'd come in and yell "Conspiracy!"
Denying ACC is on the same level as a holocaust denier? You liberals are wacko.
 

Padawanbater2

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Denying ACC is on the same level as a holocaust denier? You liberals are wacko.
The overwhelming majority of historians agree the holocaust happened

The overwhelming majority of scientists agree with the IPCC that the human factor is the leading cause of the changing climate

You do the math..
 
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