Looking for Fellow Thinkers

euthanatos93420

Well-Known Member
Ok, I'm not sure this guy was serious to begin with. He doesn't seem to be responding to the positive replies and only to the haters. Bad sign right off the bat. I think about this shit a lot myself and I think I can throw out a few ideas here.

1. Medical state -> every has/gets a card. Gotta keep the operation legal.
2. No cult status. No one should be required to sign over/give up all their worldly possesions.
3. Do need a community area though. Maybe we could steal a church or some shit.
4. What veggiegardener said
Sounds like you wanna play Dungeons and Dragons. I'll be the bearded female dwarf berserker with Tourettes. And we're gonna be playing nothing newer than second edition. Roll a D20!
White Wolf>TSR M:tA (oWoD) ftw
 

veggiegardener

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I don't have a lot to add.

I stopped considering a serious group effort after learning a lot more about human nature.

My friend's situation benefits from the fact that one person owns the property and doesn't live on it. It is his personal playground, and he's chosen his playmates, carefully.

A benevolent dictatorship might be the only viable framework for such an effort. Because no one pays "dues" but merely finances the pursuit of their own interests, If someone is unhappy, he just wouldn't come back. From what I've heard, such things haven't occurred, yet.

Sooooo....

Buy a piece of property, and start picking playmates?
 

euthanatos93420

Well-Known Member
Well Religion used to be an effective binding tool. Now productive hobbies are but the profitability of growing can threaten to destabalize any group. You gotta be able to read people. If you're confidant in your 'psychic' abilities and by that I do not mean some new age hippie witch bullshit, but real human electromagnetic fields and sensitivities for detecting people outofsync with themselves.
 

LordWinter

New Member
Well Religion used to be an effective binding tool. Now productive hobbies are but the profitability of growing can threaten to destabalize any group. You gotta be able to read people. If you're confidant in your 'psychic' abilities and by that I do not mean some new age hippie witch bullshit, but real human electromagnetic fields and sensitivities for detecting people outofsync with themselves.
Reading people doesn't have to imply psychic talent. Body language and choice of words give away just as much of a person's intentions, and thoughts, as their energies.
 

Sciεncε

Active Member
I think it depends on the way you perceive it consciously. A lot of what goes on when making prejudices (prejudgement, not some racist bullshit) happens behind the scenes in your subconscious. So there's no doubt some unexplainable factors when you let yourself read someone. But it's not magic. Shit, chemistry was considered "magic" when it was less understood.

So regardless of whether or not you think it's a psychic "power", or keen observation, it's the same thing.

IMHO
 

euthanatos93420

Well-Known Member
and? several people have cast itnerest and you're leaving us hanging for talk radio show speech. Most of us here are already familiar with that shit.
 

Michael Sparks

Active Member
Dude, what are you talking about "leaving you hanging" i was simply looking for like minded people, how we go from here is a mutual decision, i have started what i wanted, you cannot think that i am only doing this online.. I go out to the streets and meet random people everyday and share a message, if they are receptive an interest is present which is the support, what they are doing to spread the message is the same that i have done, by just talking to someone they wouldn't have otherwise. If you want to join up do so, everyone is capable of doing something, i do not just sit on the computer but when i do i am learning and expressing, a small portion of what makes up who i am, that is something we all have lost touch with, what it means to be ourselves and not be scared, to be social and share experiences with others.
With regards to the comment about the talk radio speech show, i am glad it exists because there are those that have never heard such a point of view expressed by someone which is ultimately how we learn from one another. if you are frustrated by the lack of forward momentum and would like to be moving with haste then participate in the ways you are able, but subside your doubt and worries and stay confident and focused.
 

Carne Seca

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I guess when he said he was looking for fellow thinkers he meant people that think exactly like him. Other thinkers need not apply. David Koresh had a similar mind-set.
 

euthanatos93420

Well-Known Member
One of my ex's said I looked like Koresh every time I buy one of those cheap not-quite-aviators from the dollar tree. Saves me a bundle because I keep getting punched in the face by the clintons for some reason.
 

veggiegardener

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Until today, I hadn't seen the documentary, "Blind Spot". It covers most of the issues that I've become concerned(scared to death) over. I hop that those of you with access to Netflix take the time to watch it.

I have pretty much decided to discuss the purchase of some acreage with my family, such as my friend is using. Together, we should be able to cover costs. My experience includes many of the skills required to maintain a subsistence living on 10-20 acres for my family. I'll tack on the rest, as needed. Books are my friend. If the poop hits the air mover, the Internet will be the first thing to go.

I've always tried to be pessimistic about the future, but over the years, have found my disastrous expectations optimistic. Things ALWAYS turn out worse than expected.(When Dick Cheney was telling the American public that the invasion of Iraq would cost less than $50 billion, I predicted a $1 trillion.(Early 2003, before "Shock and Awe") It is approaching $2 Trillion.

I'm continuously surprised by how few people take the coming problems seriously. Particularly young adults. Granted, they haven't the span of years to see how far our quality of life has deteriorated.

The Chinese have an old curse. "May you live in interesting times."

What parts of history are interesting? Wars, Plagues, Revolutions, Holocaust, Natural Disasters and bad Accidents come to mind.

I think mankind has thoroughly cursed itself.

If you think I'm overly pessimistic, remember, over the last 40 years of trying to foresee the future, I've never once been proven to be Pessimistic. I doubt the trend will reverse itself, any time soon.
 

Michael Sparks

Active Member
Really ? that is not what i implied what so ever, @Carne what is your basis to associate me with those 'types' of people? we are all the same in so many respects but to direct this in relation to what some have done in the past, your ignorance is not surprising, to have never met me but gauge who i am in your mind from a few paragraphs. I am motivated for the better, a difference that will benefit everyone involved, a change you do not have to be a part thought you are still welcomed.

Skepticism is a thing of distrust, something ingrained in oneself over time. Grow up, live the life you have always wanted, not the one you were told to want.
 

Michael Sparks

Active Member
what make me full of shit exactly ? those of you, that are like minded, conceive this as a way to gain support, those that are opposed to being social this is a focus for me, as they are stubborn, deep inside they want the same thing (as we all want) but are caught in fear, stricken with doubt.. I understand your frustration, but take that energy and guide it toward a passion of your own, don't let it be wasted.
 

euthanatos93420

Well-Known Member
I think I speak for every participant in this thread when I say we were expecting you to start some shit about a hippie style commune grow op. I even threw out a few good suggesting for getting a theoretical foundation for a model of making it happen. You're full of shit because you post this thread while lacking any apparent interest in making it happen. Seriously man, fuckin lame. And I was even gonna work with you on it. But no, you gotta go play with the haters like a noob. LOL
 

Mort Fink

New Member
Nothing makes you full of shit. You say your trying to find like minded people in that case you must narrow it down, have a clear plan with set goals and a working force. The exact plan is what will attract the people and let people know your looking for the same thing and goals.
 

veggiegardener

Well-Known Member
I think I speak for every participant in this thread when I say we were expecting you to start some shit about a hippie style commune grow op. I even threw out a few good suggesting for getting a theoretical foundation for a model of making it happen. You're full of shit because you post this thread while lacking any apparent interest in making it happen. Seriously man, fuckin lame. And I was even gonna work with you on it. But no, you gotta go play with the haters like a noob. LOL
Having been involved in many such discussions, I had no huge expectations.

The difficulty with the topic is that it involves people.

This is a learning experience for the OP and hopefully those who choose to participate in the discussion.

Flaming is just childish and counterproductive.

Instead, why not brainstorm the idea, and see if serious interest can be inspired?

It is a fascinating subject.
 
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