LED Comparisons?

stardustsailor said:

Oh ,No..
You probably thought that that " DiscoLover" was for you ?
Nahhhh ...
No!

It 's a whole "movement" ...

...
Contribute to what ?
(I do not see the need of any contribution ,really ..
I'm already seeing .....amazing ...things going on here ...!!!..)

DankSwag,there are plenty of led combos out there ....
I got to know couple of things ,though ....

And really ,trust me on those ,if you want /can ...

-Led lights do not grow plants ,just by themselves ....

-If you really wanted the best value for your money..
Well ...Then you certainly would have not started the thread like :

" Is there any guide for the consumer on how to compare LED panels to the next one.
Things to look for and to watch out for? Is there anyone that has compared a high end model such as Apache AT600 with a Dorm Grow 900 Full Spectrum at half the cost or anything like that.

I am a frugal bastard and won't spend a dime more then I need too if one LED light produces equivalent results for less money then a more expensive make and model."




Why ?

Think it over a bit .


You 're a "consumer " .....
Thus 'restricted' to a range of pre-selected (not by you ,of course ) designs,
starting from crap to what you are referring as high end devices ...

If you still think that I'm an instigator.,you're wrong ..
You haven't seen me -yet- "in mood " ...

BTW ,nice grow ....
If it's real ...
Cause most growers I'm aware of ,they' would need a K of HID ,
to have those juicy wonderful buds of yours ....

But then...
As I've already stated to you ...
-Led lights do not grow plants ,just by themselves ....

It might be the fact that you're an awesome grower ,too...
Or something else ...
Still ....
I've tried many different leds myself ....

And I got to know -be aware of -certain things ,by experience and only ...
Do not forget that ,please .

Welcome and take good care ..

Cheers.

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stardustsailor said:

So DS ..
What you're saying is that this :
http://www.dormgrow.com/240-watt-led-grow-light.html

along with " a 90W LED UFO (draw 82watt cost $150)
and two tertiary 12W Red (Bloom) (draw 12w cost $45 each) LED bulbs."

...Have supported the growth and flowering of such plants as the ones at the pics ?

..........
Well ...

What's left is that we all should buy that combo ....

246 Watts ....

You and Mr.X ,for crying out loud ...

The only jedi- growers,I'm aware of !

Share some of the Force,bro !

Cheers .

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DANKSWAG said:

Here is a picture of the lights, and yes if they are actually just drawing what the specs say, that is a total of 246watts in a 2x2.

So weight numbers will come soon, like I said I mix my own soil nothing but water and TLC was provided with these lights. It is what it is bro, the only thing I can not confirm about the lights is if they are pulling only 246 for I don't have the gear to get that measurement I am only going on product specs.

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Mechmike said:

Been at the LED game since 2009. Lots of Chinese made lights and DIY lights with Chinese emitters. I had some decent grows but I always felt I could kick it up to a higher level. Like SDS and GG I came to the conclusion that high quality components like Cree, Bridgelux, Luxeon, Nichia, Osram etc. are the best bang for the buck. And to get that high quality DIY is most often the least expensive. I build my own simply because very few retail lights clear that bar for me. Apachetech and Area51 are the only ones I would even consider as a retail solution.

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stardustsailor said:

Ok ...
Then ,it's YOU the one that should contribute to the rest of us,really ....
Better start telling some of your secret methods there ....

I want to learn how to grow with leds ,like you do !
Yes.

I also want to get (it seems that is the yield you'll be gettin' ) a pound or so,from 240 Watts of 'cheap' BridgeLux, Epistar, Optotech led lights ...

Please ,teach me ,Master !

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Mechmike said:

Been at the LED game since 2009. Lots of Chinese made lights and DIY lights with Chinese emitters. I had some decent grows but I always felt I could kick it up to a higher level. Like SDS and GG I came to the conclusion that high quality components like Cree, Bridgelux, Luxeon, Nichia, Osram etc. are the best bang for the buck. And to get that high quality DIY is most often the least expensive. I build my own simply because very few retail lights clear that bar for me. Apachetech and Area51 are the only ones I would even consider as a retail solution.

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DANKSWAG said:

SDS,

Something makes me wonder that perhaps you feel you paid too much for your LEDs for what they produce.

DankSwag

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DANKSWAG said:

Thanks MechMike, appreciate your input.

By the way DormGrow claims to use 3w BridgeLux, Epistar, Optotech light emitting diodes.

DankSwag

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DANKSWAG said:

My question was where can I use in my current grow space as in the pics I showed a 2x2 area using Dorm Grow at 246watts for under $550 that can produce flowers like I shown in those pics.

I've looked at some of your threads showing the Hans verses different lights and from what I can tell (and I realize strains make the difference) Hans doesn't seem to produce what I am producing with my Dorm Grow lights. But to be fair I'd like to do a side by side using same strain and environment with only difference being lights to quantify my statement that my Dorm Grow lights seem to produce better than what I have seen from your Hans grows. I could be wrong but only one way to find out is a side by side.

So pray tell where do I get a Hans panel like your using? I've check the internet seems like lot of imitator web sites selling Hans Led lighting. I want to be fair and do this with genuine Hans panel.

DankSwag

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DANKSWAG said:

I started my thread sincerely, I am sincere in that I will not pay 2K for an LED light if there is an equivalently less expensive LED panel out. Equivalent in the context which I used it, means equal in every way but cost. So the text you quoted is out of context and is pretext on which you have expounded your assertion about my goal here. Couldn't be further from the truth. I've come asking questions and noting what I have experience. Thanks again for the fodder.

DankSwag

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DANKSWAG said:

SDS,

Something makes me wonder that perhaps you feel you paid too much for your LEDs for what they produce.

DankSwag

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DANKSWAG said:

I started my thread sincerely, I am sincere in that I will not pay 2K for an LED light if there is an equivalently less expensive LED panel out. Equivalent in the context which I used it, means equal in every way but cost. So the text you quoted is out of context and is pretext on which you have expounded your assertion about my goal here. Couldn't be further from the truth. I've come asking questions and noting what I have experience. Thanks again for the fodder.

DankSwag

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Abiqua said:

Dank, SDS is putting on the Hellas swag, because he ABSOLUTELY knows what he is talking about, although he gets to the point in a round about way.

I would check out his threads to understand how to quantify what makes good LED's.

I read all his shit, because the man knows the #'s inside and out.

SupraSPL, MrFLux, guod, bad k, Positivity, Fran J, hyroot, Mohican, Capt Morgan, GreenGenes, on and on all will lead you down a correct path......... if you want the knowledge you have to read this forum top and bottom.


Get into what makes an LED light source tick, PPFD, ppf and umole/sec........that is my advice. The dorm grow doesn't even offer those, and that should be your 1st Red Flag.....

Check out the Cree CXA 3070 DIY grows, probably the best bang for your buck at the top intensities and efficiency. Bar none. I calculated a 500w version [Real 500w's of output] at around $700 or so....that would start to put your near a 1000w hps....

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stardustsailor said:

Don't spoil the fun ,please !
It's Monday night and I've nothing better to do !



"SDS is putting on the Hellas swag"
" although he gets to the point in a round about way."

No,not really ....
Others've done this, before me ,actually...



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates

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SupraSPL said:

DS, I think Walmart has a power meter for $15. It probably depends on the Walmart but I saw one there a few months back in the light bulb isle.

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