leaves sticking straight up, W.t.f.??

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jpizzle4shizzle

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I believe that is called an analogy, and im no genius but im almost positive that those green things (leaves) use light to photosynthesize. The flatter the base of the leaves, the more light can be utilized. So as you should be able to imagine with common sense, if leaves are pointing straight up there is very little surface area for light. So in no way am I saying beautiful plants can't be grown praying, but generally it is not because the plant is happy and is thanking god(you). So more yield? Danker plants? Idk what other answer you want

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genuity said:
^^^^^this

Then this^^^^

So I take it,I should not take anything rm3 says as true?
I'm not getting it.
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Well he seems to be focused on the facts and not the conjecture, so I don't see how his being a hippie would be relevant to the discussion one way or the other.
 
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I posted the actual science for you, I doubt it was written by hippies LOL

All growers can grow however they want, but when someone ask a question they should be able to expect a correct answer
 
natro.hydro

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Gen and ak, while I am of the opinion that happy plants have leaves pointing up like you, I stop thinking it is good at this extreme. Anything more than 45 degrees and I believe you are looking at something else from what you 2 are talking about and that in this case rm3 is right.
What you guys are talking about is phototropism where plants adjust their leaves to catch more of the light and it is a good thing.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phototropism
But this guy's leaves are almost straight up so I am of the opinion it is something different amd rm3 is right in this instance. Just thought I would throw in my .02
 
Uncle Ben

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Without day to day personal observation it's hard to pinpoint what the problem is (or isn't), so, I'll just throw this in fer chits and grinns.

2. High Heat - the plant is losing water via leaves faster than what can be replaced by the root system. The leaf responds by leaf margin cupping or rolling (up or down) in order to conserve moisture. A good example is reflected by the appearance of broad-bladed turf grass on a hot summer day, high noon, with low soil moisture levels - the leaf blade will roll in and the grass will take on a dull, greyish-green appearance. Upon sunrise when moisture levels have returned to normal, the leaf blade will be flat.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/plant-moisture-stress-symptoms-and-solutions.150004/
 
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abrooks2152 said:
Just an odd thing i had happen today. I oppened my veg cab. In which i have 2 autos. (obviously on 18-6) i couldn't help but notice the leaves were not stretched out soaking up rays. They were perfectly vertical. I've never seen nor read anything of this sort. So I'm asking for your opinions and answers. So...
1st) Auto Blimburn Cream
2nd)Auto Vision Super Skunk
Both in Dr Earth soil under a 400 watt M.H. 18/6 Newts are F.F. Grow Big at 1/2 strength, and CalMag at 1/2 strength. Water p.h. at 6.5 same as with nutrient solution.

Thanx and Namaste
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After reviewing your photos I think you're worrying over nothing. What I'm seeing is all young, new leaves are pointing up, mature leaves are flat and prostate. Could be genetic, could be moisture stress, could be hormonal, could be the effect Riddle was referring you too. Then again could be nothing as long as those leaves are capable of photosynthesis, which they are.

I had a Thai-tanic with the same profile but if you look to the left at one of its sistas you'll see major leaf margin curl on a leafset with one leaf almost completely rolled up. That is moisture stress caused by high heat. 4 weeks flowering:

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But it had another sista that was "normal".....go figure.

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With some experience and a bit of research you'll get a feel of plant processes. Trust me, there is a time to do the "aw shit" and a time to sit back and "let it go, LET IT GO!"

<earworm earworm>
 
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Mr. Krambo44 said:
It's called leaf cupping. They do that in a sort of way when they are too far from light. In a veg situation those plants would be stretchy and lanky. Since they are budding already I'd move them closer to the light lets them use the extra par from the intensity of the light. U should look into some reflective films. That would help get light to the lower areas. They look pretty dark down low.
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The 2 flowering are autos in my veg cab. So is it still cool to lower the light? Plus I'd like to keep my other 2 regular plants as small and bushy as possible. So would lowering the light keep them from stretching? As they r in veg. Thanks for the heads up. Add me if u like. I wont bumm u out w noob shit all the time . lol I'm not a total noob, but far from a pro. Namaste friend
 
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Uncle Ben said:
After reviewing your photos I think you're worrying over nothing. What I'm seeing is all young, new leaves are pointing up, mature leaves are flat and prostate. Could be genetic, could be moisture stress, could be hormonal, could be the effect Riddle was referring you too. Then again could be nothing as long as those leaves are capable of photosynthesis, which they are.

I had a Thai-tanic with the same profile but if you look to the left at one of its sistas you'll see major leaf margin curl on a leafset with one leaf almost completely rolled up. That is moisture stress caused by high heat. 4 weeks flowering:

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But it had another sista that was "normal".....go figure.

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With some experience and a bit of research you'll get a feel of plant processes. Trust me, there is a time to do the "aw shit" and a time to sit back and "let it go, LET IT GO!"

<earworm earworm>
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Thanks. I wasn't really worried like in the bad sense. Just something that i have never witnessed 1st hand. Also the 2 ladies in question are autos, (free bees fro seed bank) and it is mt first auto grow. I was more curious as to weather it was an auto trait or just some fluke. Thanks to your self and others i learned quite a bit. Good looking out. Namaste! !
 
abrooks2152

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warble said:
How far are they from your light? Maybe get them closer to the light or get the light closer to the canopy.
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About 12 inches a.t.m. They are autos on 18/6. My first auto grow. So i wasn't sure if it was a genetics thing inherent to autos or if i did something wrong. I've learned a lot thanks to yourself as well as a few others. Gratitude and Namaste
 
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Yes i had just given them a first flower feeding. Also they are autos in my veg cab at 18/6 week 3 of flower
Week 7 from seed. I fed at 1/4 strength of F.F Tiger Bloom, Big bloom, CalMag, and Bud Candy. Which is sort of a standard base i use on regular plants. Adjust to plants taste etc... Also its my 1st time growing autos. (Freebees) ive learned an awful lot. Im super grateful to you and all the other people who took the time to help. You all are awesome, Namaste.
 
abrooks2152

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RM3 said:
Told the OP exactly what it is

Definition of: paraheliotropism
(par′ə·hē′lē·ot′rə·piz′əm) noun Bot.
A manifestation of irritability in motile leaves when exposed to bright sunlight, whereby they assume such a position that their surfaces are parallel to the direction of the incident rays
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jpizzle4shizzle said:
Why do ppl think this is good? How much light can the plant utilize while the leaves are straight up in the air? Its basic biology, not rocket science. It doesn't take a grower to understand this

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That is what i thought. I was under the impression that the leaf, when at its peak functionality, and under optimum conditions, would stretch out horizontal or flatly to absorb its maximum amount or light. Just what i had put together by observation. Until these autos pulled this new stunt. Leaving me to question weather it was me doing something wrong or a genetic trait of auto flowers. Thank you again everyone.
 
Cpappa27

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Leaf heliotropism is the solar tracking behavior of plant leaves. Some plant species have leaves that orient themselves perpendicularly to the sun's rays in the morning (diaheliotropism), and others have those that orient themselves parallel to these rays at midday (paraheliotropism).[10] Floral heliotropism is not necessarily exhibited by the same plants that exhibit leaf heliotropism.
 
Mr. Krambo44

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abrooks2152 said:
The 2 flowering are autos in my veg cab. So is it still cool to lower the light? Plus I'd like to keep my other 2 regular plants as small and bushy as possible. So would lowering the light keep them from stretching? As they r in veg. Thanks for the heads up. Add me if u like. I wont bumm u out w noob shit all the time . lol I'm not a total noob, but far from a pro. Namaste friend
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What kind of lighting are u using again?
 
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