leaves sticking straight up, W.t.f.??

abrooks2152

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Just an odd thing i had happen today. I oppened my veg cab. In which i have 2 autos. (obviously on 18-6) i couldn't help but notice the leaves were not stretched out soaking up rays. They were perfectly vertical. I've never seen nor read anything of this sort. So I'm asking for your opinions and answers. So...
1st) Auto Blimburn Cream
2nd)Auto Vision Super Skunk
Both in Dr Earth soil under a 400 watt M.H. 18/6 Newts are F.F. Grow Big at 1/2 strength, and CalMag at 1/2 strength. Water p.h. at 6.5 same as with nutrient solution.

Thanx and Namaste
 

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warble

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How far are they from your light? Maybe get them closer to the light or get the light closer to the canopy.
 

Mr. Krambo44

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It's called leaf cupping. They do that in a sort of way when they are too far from light. In a veg situation those plants would be stretchy and lanky. Since they are budding already I'd move them closer to the light lets them use the extra par from the intensity of the light. U should look into some reflective films. That would help get light to the lower areas. They look pretty dark down low.
 

rob333

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Just an odd thing i had happen today. I oppened my veg cab. In which i have 2 autos. (obviously on 18-6) i couldn't help but notice the leaves were not stretched out soaking up rays. They were perfectly vertical. I've never seen nor read anything of this sort. So I'm asking for your opinions and answers. So...
1st) Auto Blimburn Cream
2nd)Auto Vision Super Skunk
Both in Dr Earth soil under a 400 watt M.H. 18/6 Newts are F.F. Grow Big at 1/2 strength, and CalMag at 1/2 strength. Water p.h. at 6.5 same as with nutrient solution.

Thanx and Namaste
did u feed be4 that happened ??? praying means they are happy but going to the point of over load u do not want to push it that hard just drop nutes by half a ml unless they need mag which they dont look like they do they will pray also u get it with to much potash
 

hydroMD

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It's called leaf cupping. They do that in a sort of way when they are too far from light. In a veg situation those plants would be stretchy and lanky. Since they are budding already I'd move them closer to the light lets them use the extra par from the intensity of the light. U should look into some reflective films. That would help get light to the lower areas. They look pretty dark down low.
Im under the impression that a plant does this under optimum conditions. Its metabolism is fast enough to produce enough energy to hold the leaves up towards the light.

Might be wrong, but my growth and nutrient uptake are always maximum when my plants look like this!!
 

rob333

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Im under the impression that a plant does this under optimum conditions. Its metabolism is fast enough to produce enough energy to hold the leaves up towards the light.

Might be wrong, but my growth and nutrient uptake are always maximum when my plants look like this!!
spot on ;)
 

Mr. Krambo44

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Leaves reach out towards light. They are looking for light. Bottom line. I see plants outdoors cup the same way. Even in winter with snow on the ground. My rhododendrons leaves in front of my house were cupping today. Temp was at 31* F.
 

RM3

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It's actually heat/moisture stress, nothing "happy" about it. Seems that a bunch of growers need to Google "paraheliotropism"

I know, I know if it's in an MJ forum it must be right and all those big words in Botany books are for fools
 

genuity

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No one on this forum,knows for sure what it is.....

I for one get good vert leafs,right after a watering....and they stay like that till its time to water again..

Not heat/moisture stress.
 

RM3

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No one on this forum,knows for sure what it is.....

I for one get good vert leafs,right after a watering....and they stay like that till its time to water again..

Not heat/moisture stress.
Told the OP exactly what it is

Definition of: paraheliotropism
(par′ə·hē′lē·otrə·piz′əm) noun Bot.
A manifestation of irritability in motile leaves when exposed to bright sunlight, whereby they assume such a position that their surfaces are parallel to the direction of the incident rays
 

RM3

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Photoinhibition in plants depends on the extent of light energy being absorbed in excess of what can be used in photochemistry and is expected to increase as environmental constraints limit CO2 assimilation. Water stress induces the closure of stomata, limiting carbon availability at the carboxylation sites in the chloroplasts and, therefore, resulting in an excessive excitation of the photosynthetic apparatus, particularly photosystem II (PSII). Mechanisms have evolved in plants in order to protect against photoinhibition, such as non-photochemical energy dissipation, chlorophyll concentration changes, chloroplast movements, increases in the capacity for scavenging the active oxygen species, and leaf movement or paraheliotropism, avoiding direct exposure to sun. In beans (Phaseolus vulgaris L.), paraheliotropism seems to be an important feature of the plant to avoid photoinhibition. The extent of the leaf movement is increased as the water potential drops, reducing light interception and maintaining a high proportion of open PSII reaction centres. Photoinhibition in water-stressed beans, measured as the capacity to recover Fv/Fm, is not higher than in well-watered plants and leaf temperature is maintained below the ambient, despite the closure of stomata. Bean leaves restrained from moving, increase leaf temperature and reduce qP, the content of D1 protein and the capacity to recover Fv/Fm after dark adaptation, the extent of such changes being higher in water-stressed plants. Data are presented suggesting that even though protective under water stress, paraheliotropism, by reducing light interception, affects the capacity to maintain high CO2 assimilation rates throughout the day in well-watered plants.

full text here,
http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/56/411/425.full
 
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