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coopdevillan said:

I concur on the I had my homie hook up my 1000s less amps less wear more light on each breaker. Originally I was poping stuff and this route is more efficient so I said that's kosher

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There is no less "wear" from using 240v vs 120v. Its identical except half the amps twice the voltage. Its a glass half full or half empty, either way its at 50%. If you had things popping before, it was faulty equipment or faulty wiring, it had nothing to do with being 240v or 120v.

All my ballast are digital and at 120 v they run half the amps than when they are ran on 240. So I can run twice the amount of lighting, etc. from a said number of amps breaker mine being 2 20s. My ballast run 120 or 240 and switches auto. But at 120 its say 6 amps and at 240 its say 3.

coopdevillan said:

All my ballast are digital and at 120 v they run half the amps than when they are ran on 240. So I can run twice the amount of lighting, etc. from a said number of amps breaker mine being 2 20s. My ballast run 120 or 240 and switches auto. But at 120 its say 6 amps and at 240 its say 3.

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Right. Which is the same exact thing.

How ? A breaker box is built of breakers each containing a certain number of amps right ? So if I use 240 at half the amps I can fit more lights on one breaker. If my breakers 20 amps and I have 120v running I can only run 3 light off that 20 amp breaker. If I run 240v I can fit 6 lights on that 20 amp breaker. This my amps were more than the breaker would hold. Its much more in depth than this I'm yet to become a electrician. This is my learnings though

well as an electronics tech I can tell you that you are both right but for different reasons

on the grid 220/240 is cheaper to run because of how they charge us, by kilowatt hours

using a generator cost is the same cause the motor is running no matter what you are using

coopdevillan said:

How ? A breaker box is built of breakers each containing a certain number of amps right ? So if I use 240 at half the amps I can fit more lights on one breaker. If my breakers 20 amps and I have 120v running I can only run 3 light off that 20 amp breaker. If I run 240v I can fit 6 lights on that 20 amp breaker. This my amps were more than the breaker would hold. Its much more in depth than this I'm yet to become a electrician. This is my learnings though

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Its because you have an artificial savings in your mind. Using a 20 amp breaker isnt better than using a 40 amp breaker or a 200 amp breaker. As long as the circuit is rated to pop if it goes over the amount you wish to use on it.

Using less amps of a circuit breaker is the same thing as using more amps of a circuit breaker. Its rated at your PREFERENCE, a lower amp usage on a lower amp breaker for the same amount of watts is the same thing.

But, since you DO NOT use your houses circuit breakers with a generator, you'd build a panel for it, which would cost the same per circuit regardless of how many amps its switch is set to pop at. Make sense now?

riddleme said:

well as an electronics tech I can tell you that you are both right but for different reasons

on the grid 220/240 is cheaper to run because of how they charge us, by kilowatt hours

using a generator cost is the same cause the motor is running no matter what you are using

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Uhhhhhh, no. Your way wrong.

On the grid you grab power from the same power lines as ANYONE on your street. Same wires, same pole. Whether its 240v or 120v when you get to the house makes ZERO cost difference whether you use a generator, electric company, mice in a wheel or your own nuclear reactor.

The same wattage is used, same amount of electricity used, so whether you use a generator or plug into an a/c outlet, you are still using the same amount of power and the electricity company doesnt charge you more or less.

If it costs less to use 120v or 240v, with the same benefits, then 99% of us would run electric THAT SPECIFIC way because IT IS the best. But it isnt, its identical, which is why we all have our *preference* of to use 120v or 240v. The electric company does not know what voltage appliances in your home are run at, thats up to you to split inside the home.

Please, research stuff before you post and confuse the masses. This is why some people still think trimming fan leaves is a good thing.

won't argue the point, no need to research, as I said I taught it, I have a degree in it it is why all major appliances like water heaters, stoves and air conditioners are 220 so they use less electricity to perform their job

riddleme said:

won't argue the point, no need to research, as I said I taught it, I have a degree in it it is why all major appliances like water heaters, stoves and air conditioners are 220 so they use less electricity to perform their job

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That would explain your terribly poor explanation and quick bailout once suggested you are wrong, then. ={ Not trying to start a fight, but the only high road I let anyone take is when they can PROVE they are right. Until then your either wrong, or its an untested theory of yours.

a chick in rubber boots = huge turn on........chick in rubber boots who also grows pot = my dream girl!

LAYMAN lol


There is essentially no functional differences between using 240/120 aside from the fact that you can save a buck on wiring and save a little bit of room in your breaker panel.

A 240v circuit has two hot wires, a neutral and a ground. Thats 4 wires. A 120 v circuit has one hot wire, a neutral and a ground. Both hot wires in a 240v circuit run at 120 volts, you just have two of them instead of one - adding up to 240 volts. Remember amps x volts = watts. Therefore 240 volts allows you to run twice the wattage on the same guage of wire (but you have an extra hot wire).

240v is simply easier, and cheaper to run high amperage equipment because you can run more with less wire. The breakers are also bigger, saving you room in your box.

get rid of the glass maker pretty little human.

researchkitty said:

My boyfriend (the one who does the glass) and I went to a kickass night club the other night. Mushroooooooooooooooms. Excellent time. I love the wider music you hear on shrooms and the lights are always forever trippy.

My harvest-watcher friend who stayed the two days there managed to pluck 3 ounces of dry shrooms himself, and then I plucked another 4-6 ounces (estimated) and tossed them in the dehydrator just now too.

Also harvested about 6 Lbs of trees, which is why pictures took a little longer this time. 36 plants chopped in one day!

Here's some pics:

This picture is of a plant named White Widow. Dont mind the pretty little human behind it............. (me!) The t-shirt is a Jack with Pot leafs smoking, it came from Attitude with seeds.


In my signature is a link to a Mushroom grow of a massive size. Why not come by and take a peek? That's where most of the updates are these days............

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shotfun said:

get rid of the glass maker pretty little human.

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Cause that's not creepy...

BiteSizeFreak said:

Cause that's not creepy...

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Its creepier getting a PM every other day (still) with "oh ur so hot". Kinda funny......

wow nice grow kitty +rep

Damn kitty you dont fuck around when it comes to your hobbies lol couldnt belive the set up you started with shrooms not to mention all that fucking dank oh and can i get a date LOL the internet seems to make some people even weirder/creepier

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researchkitty said:

120v ballasts. Honda makes a panel that has 20amp 120v fuses right on it that plugs into the parallel connector box. Any honda salesman can walk you through it or just look at the generator accessories online it makes much sense. Good luck!

btw -- I did 120v since 240v shocks can kill me. 120v just stings a while. There's zero difference.

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Actually you've got that all wrong. 120v is actually much more dangerous than 240v, ask any electrician. 120v will hold you to panel/wire and stop your heart. 240 will likely knock you backwards and away from it. Just my 2 cents.

Arsehole said:

Actually you've got that all wrong. 120v is actually much more dangerous than 240v, ask any electrician. 120v will hold you to panel/wire and stop your heart. 240 will likely knock you backwards and away from it. Just my 2 cents.

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WTF is with all this electricity bullshit in my 6 month old grow thread? It seems all these one and two post assholes are coming in here just posting bullshit.

The higher the voltage the more dangerous. Higher voltage passes higher current that causes the trouble (Ohms law). On the other hand, the higher the voltage the more economy in distribution. So, the voltage choice is a compromise between two conflicting requirements : Safety - Economy.

The question implies distribution systems, where there is no question of the abundance of current (in a home or office not at power pole).

Next time anyone here posts, please, please, for the good of all and google, make it a useful one or where you just praise me and tell me how cool I am instead. No more bullshit spam =P

coopdevillan said:

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LOL I had to zoom in to see it from the thumbnail, why did they blame the video game Doom on the kids actions rather than lack of a good wet snatch? Hmmmmmmmm. +rep for laughing ability.