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Bugeye

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got it.

i finished up installing them, went just fine. then i started chucking lumber and PVC into the structure to clean up the job site and a piece of PVC bounced right into the damn thing and cracked it.

i am a fucking idiot.

$25 dollars and 1 hour worth of setback.
Ah, so it goes...you gonna post some pics of this build someplace? I'm a little jealous of anyone with a fun build project these days.
 

UncleBuck

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Ah, so it goes...you gonna post some pics of this build someplace? I'm a little jealous of anyone with a fun build project these days.
yeah, i'll post some pics today after i get done fixing my fuck ups from yesterday.

never took into account that i would need to put a roof on this thing, and so i need to respace the fittings on the other window now so that they support the weight of the rafters exactly so as to avoid eventual sag.

so basically i have ruined both pieces now. one because i am an idiot, one because i thought the aesthetics looked better.

oh well. it's $15 more worth of setback that i can fix anytime. and now i know exactly how to work with the material because i learned in a way that i won't forget.

this is not the 3 seasons greenhouse by the way, this is just a shed/greenhouse that i plan on using to start veggie seeds, store yard tools, store lumber, store soil and containers, do transplants, and the like. i might throw some cannabis plants in there but that is not its main purpose.
 

UncleBuck

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so we just moved into our first house that we own, and it has a huge yard that needs a lot of attention. i decided to start close to the house over winter and move to the back of the yard come spring.

the biggest eyesore was the area just off our deck and behind our garage. it was just a mess of 1.5'' mountain granite, hardpan dirt, deteriorating apron, and not much else. it hurt my feet to walk on, i cant imagine how the dogs felt.

so i painstakingly raked all those rocks into the 10'x16' grid that would be my future greenhouse shed.

the area is pretty well sloped, so i had to level it out with a foundation of some sort. i chose cinderblocks and 3/4'' mountain granite.



i had to pickaxe through a lot of hardpan by hand to dig the trench. then i lined it to a depth of about 4'', sunk in the cinderblocks, leveled them all out by hand, and set them into place with more granite. granite really is the way to go.



not perfect by any means, but plenty stable. about 40 cinderblocks total, and 2.5 tons of 3/4'' mountain granite did it. hauled it all home in my car load by load.



now my dogs have a 5' wide pathway to go down that is just hardpan, no rocks to hurt their little paws. i am eventually going to pave that pathway with top caps set into place with (possibly) sand or some other material.

to be continued...
 

UncleBuck

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this was my progress by my first break after fixing the window.



and here we are a little later on after adding the header to the door finishing the last bits of plywood to get it ready for the trim i will eventually put on there.



you can see the slope of the land by the foundation and the new non-painful pathway out to the rest of the yard.

the astute observer might also notice the $25 corrugated PVC plastic window now in the shit heap. note to self: don't throw shit around like that in the future. take the extra 4 seconds and walk your lumber and scraps to the shit pile.

to be continued...
 

UncleBuck

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and here is how i fucked up the other window.



the window closest to us originally only had two supports running vertically. i wanted to off-center them like the far window. but there are going to be rafters every 24'' there, so i had to rework it. now i have 6 little holes in that near window. i probably won't bother to replace it, they are barely noticeable.

the far window works best off-center because it needs some support at dead center to hold up the ridge beam.

the astute observer will notice the garden tools and lawnmowers in the background which will eventually find a place in this shed.



the white chicken might be a rooster, but if it is, he doesn't crow. so he gets to stay.

he beats up all the black hens. fucking misogynist racist. what a fowl creature.
 

schuylaar

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and here is how i fucked up the other window.



the window closest to us originally only had two supports running vertically. i wanted to off-center them like the far window. but there are going to be rafters every 24'' there, so i had to rework it. now i have 6 little holes in that near window. i probably won't bother to replace it, they are barely noticeable.

the far window works best off-center because it needs some support at dead center to hold up the ridge beam.

the astute observer will notice the garden tools and lawnmowers in the background which will eventually find a place in this shed.



the white chicken might be a rooster, but if it is, he doesn't crow. so he gets to stay.

he beats up all the black hens. fucking misogynist racist. what a fowl creature.

n'awwwwwwwwwwwwww it's soooo cute:hug:
 

Bugeye

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i had to pickaxe through a lot of hardpan by hand to dig the trench. then i lined it to a depth of about 4'', sunk in the cinderblocks, leveled them all out by hand, and set them into place with more granite. granite really is the way to go.
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It all looks like fun and games after getting that foundation in!
 

UncleBuck

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It all looks like fun and games after getting that foundation in!
i have lots of fun with it all. never laid a foundation before but i just went by my dad's motto: square, level, and plumb.

i'm nowhere near the level of skill or workmanship that you are, but it should be a secure place to grow out a few plants come spring.
 

ChesusRice

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i have lots of fun with it all. never laid a foundation before but i just went by my dad's motto: square, level, and plumb.

i'm nowhere near the level of skill or workmanship that you are, but it should be a secure place to grow out a few plants come spring.
How deep is the foundation?
Does it extend below the frost line?
 

Bugeye

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How deep is the foundation?
Does it extend below the frost line?
Do you think getting a foundation down below the frost line matters on a small detached shed? I'm guessing it won't matter. I've seen a lot of decks built in Denver that did not go down below the frost line and they are still looking okay. I guess it depends on what the ground is like under them. I know you can't do that up in the higher mountains because the deck will probably get pulled off the house!
 

ChesusRice

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Do you think getting a foundation down below the frost line matters on a small detached shed? I'm guessing it won't matter. I've seen a lot of decks built in Denver that did not go down below the frost line and they are still looking okay. I guess it depends on what the ground is like under them. I know you can't do that up in the higher mountains because the deck will probably get pulled off the house!
if the ground is hard water wont permeate, Meaning it will pool and when it freezes it will heave the foundation

I would of forgone the foundation and let it float sitting on some piers
 
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