❧❦ Jad3's Haven ❦❧

simisimis

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Happy new year to you too!
Glad your harvest pleased you! But plants looked happy beautiful so there was no reason not to.

Wow, pretty soon you are going to get real busy man with all those strains :) are you planning to keep them all in the same tent? Or like common grower you're expanding your grow room number?

Btw, those plants that were in 10L pots, were they upcanned? If yes, in veg or flower? Did you inspect your rootbals after you harvested? Usually they explain why plant was bigger or smaller, grew faster/slower, etc
 

Jad3

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I can't upscale yet, since I'm still in university and have very little "stealth space" in the house.
But I am eager to see what all these different strains will bring to the table. I'm planting in small pots this time, to keep growth at bay. Hopefully 6 or 7 plants won't over clutter with small pots.
Can't wait to get my own place though... where I'll surely have a whole room devoted to my beauties =P

None of the plants in this last run where transplanted. They germinated in paper, rootbound a rockwool cube, and where put into the final pots.
The 2L pot had a ROCK for a root ball, I mean it was DENSE with roots. I had to trash the perlite from that pot, no way I could get all those fibers clean from it. Should have taken a picture.
The 10L pots where solid in the center and spread out through the whole pot, but where much more loose and "airy" at the edges. I was able to recollect most of the perlite from around the main rootball.

From this I took that the 10L pots either needed more veg time for better root system development (and bigger plants) or gradual transplants (which is not very common in Hempy). And also, because the main root ball was so high above the water resevoir, they didn't drink as much as the NL.

The NL could dry the 2L pot in 1 or 2 days. The others would have water in the reservoir up to 5 or 6 days.

This time around I'm going to try another variation of the Hempy method. I've been thinking about it alot, and I'm sure it can work very well.

I'll post details as soon as I have a few seedlings ready to go. =)
 

MuckyDucky

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Hi Jad. Glad to see you doing another grow. I'll be sure check back.

I am going to start another grow in a few days too using some freebee seeds I've been storing in the fridg. I am going to try to germ 4 seeds and plant either 2 or 3.

I have heard of all of these sativa doms. Anyone have an opinion what would be good or not be too good?

Delicious Seeds
Cotton Candy

Humbolt Seed Organization
Trainwreck
Greencrack
Amherst Sour Diesel
 

Jad3

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Be sure to leave us the link to it here Mucky!
Haven't read or heard much about the others, but Greencrack and Trainwreck are supposed to be awesome.

I'm smoking Purple Trainwreck right now, and I can tell you it's tha bomb!


hey Jade glad to see u r still growing. Happy new year!
Hey zibra! Long time! I'm very glad you're back with us and coming along on this ride! =)
Happy New Year man! :bigjoint:
 

MuckyDucky

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Yesterday I put the seeds in individual paper towels to germ and when I checked them today the Trainwreck seed was GONE! Disintegrated I guess cause I know I put it in there.
:mrgreen:
 

MuckyDucky

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Use coconut oil, much stronger and it will be consistent if you make larger batches. Have a good Chirstmas Jade, can't wait to see final #'s and a smoke report....and maybe a early LED Christmas present for yourself!
I found a slow cook recipe for coconut oil and I have been cooking 2 oz of older C99 bud in one lb of coconut oil all day..... licking the spoon and taking samples and I LIKE THIS STUFF!!!!! I have a big block of it cooling in the fridge right now. Thanks for the tip!!
:eyesmoke:
 

Jad3

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Damn straight buddy!

My butter was made only from the sugar leafs and trim, and it's pretty awesome. Sure feels alot more like being medicated. So far I have only consumed like a tablespoon at once, on toast. And 2 hours in it's this wonderful body dream, and your head feels like it just doesn't exist. xD
My girlfriend also enjoyed it alot.

Did you decarb your weed before cooking? Makes for a stronger high if you activate the THC. Raw cannabis has THCA, by heating it up to a certain temperature (decarboxylate) makes it turn into the THC we so love.

Be sure to tell us how your cooking comes out!
 

Jad3

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So, I'm not a happy boy =(

Went to check, and only 3 seeds have popped leafs. The other 4 in the rockwool are showing a little taproot, but haven't grown in length at all these past 2 days... I'm loosing faith in them, so I decided to setup my space, start with the ones that have sprouted, and hope for the best...

The survivors are the Amnesia Lemon, and 2 Sleestack x Devil's Weed that I created. And I'm terrified they will hermie on me...

Anyway, fingers crossed.

My setup this time around has 3 main differences.
First, It's going to be a vertical grow. The light is the center pilar and the plants grow around it, rotating and getting much better side penetration.
Second, I'm making a slight variation on the hempy bucket. This time I'm planting in 1L Air Pots, that rest in a shallow water basin. The water level is more easily checked and maintained this way. Also this way I control which plants go into a dry phase and which ones don't. I'm also considering adding air stones to it, but I'm still not too sure about that.
Third, and final, it's going to be a 12/12 from seed perpetual grow. This makes for single cola plants with no need for changing bulbs or light cycles, nor having 2 tents.

I know most of you wouldn't like these decisions too much, but I decided I wanted a challenge, and also an opportunity to learn new techniques and methods of doing stuff, so here goes nothing.

I'm not expecting much yield from this grow, but I'd be ecstatic if I could match my last one. (Which for now seems terribly difficult =P)

Being in a constant 12/12 makes me be able to germinate a few more seeds as things move along, making for more diversity, lower electrical bills, and multiple harvests.

Let's see if I'm able to produce some bud until summer comes around!

I hope you're rooting for me xD I bet I'll need all the luck I can get =P

allthebest :leaf:

Jad3

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MuckyDucky

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Damn straight buddy!

My butter was made only from the sugar leafs and trim, and it's pretty awesome. Sure feels alot more like being medicated. So far I have only consumed like a tablespoon at once, on toast. And 2 hours in it's this wonderful body dream, and your head feels like it just doesn't exist. xD
My girlfriend also enjoyed it alot.

Did you decarb your weed before cooking? Makes for a stronger high if you activate the THC. Raw cannabis has THCA, by heating it up to a certain temperature (decarboxylate) makes it turn into the THC we so love.

Be sure to tell us how your cooking comes out!
No, I didn't decarb first. I made a mistake I think and used a 12 hr slow cook recipe that didn't mention decarbing. I can still decarb some it in the oven later to see if there is a difference.

This stuff is nice though.. great body medication and nice head medication too. The Coconut oil seems to enhance it too with a warm body feeling when I take it. My only problem is that I licked the spoon too much when I was making it yesterday and today I'm not sure if I am still medicated or if I'm suppose to feel like this.:mrgreen:

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The bit of discoloration n this 1 lb block is just on very the bottom.
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simisimis

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Wow, that is some nice butter!
I think you need to decarb only if you want a quick result.
i.e. I drop1.8g of my C99 bud into 130g of butter and heat for 7-8 minutes until butter goes into dark amber/brown color, then cool it for an hour two, then melt it, strain it and then make 16 choco cookies.
With a slow cooking you are converting thca anyway so no pre decarbing is needed from what I've read.

Sorry for your not sprouted seeds Jad3.
What is the temp in that electricity box you were planning to keep them warm?
In the past I decided that I want to keep them warm so they would sprout easier and placed in the boiler room. Temps around 28-30. Man oh man, so many beans failed to sprout. In the end I just soak them for 24hours and drop in peat pellets. and cover with a party cup to keep soil surface moist. They know the drill.
 

Jad3

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Great looking block right there!
And yes, I also felt that on the next day. I thought it might be a lingering of the medication because I went to sleep when I was tripping quite hard. I usually wake up semi-naked in a sort of limbo state =P
Can you relate? =P

The thing is they did sprout a little tap root... but then in the rockwool they haven't developed... they are still in there, but by now I'm not believing they'll come around...

Also the tv signal box is only a few degrees above room temperature. And it's been pretty cold over here. like 6 to 12ºC. The box might get to 18ºC if so much.

I'm quite sad that I haven't been able to launch any of my big NYPD seeds. Tough husks for the tap to come through...
 

yktind

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No, I didn't decarb first. I made a mistake I think and used a 12 hr slow cook recipe that didn't mention decarbing. I can still decarb some it in the oven later to see if there is a difference.

This stuff is nice though.. great body medication and nice head medication too. The Coconut oil seems to enhance it too with a warm body feeling when I take it. My only problem is that I licked the spoon too much when I was making it yesterday and today I'm not sure if I am still medicated or if I'm suppose to feel like this.:mrgreen:

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The bit of discoloration n this 1 lb block is just on very the bottom.
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I'ver always been confused when using a crock pot. If you look at a decarb chart it should do the job just in the crock pot, right? I don't think there is any need to "predecarb" your trim or buds in the oven. I just throw everything into my slow cooker and leave it on for a few hours. My edibles always come out stony. I wonder if it would be more potent with a predecarb. I still dont thinkj it would make a difference, especially sitting in the slow cooker for 12 hours.

THen again I am pretty baked and just drank a cup of coffee with Green Crack Hash mixed in.

Every time I make cookies I have to wait til the next day to try them because I eat the batter the whole time and couldn't tell you how potent 1 cookie is when I've been smoking and eating the batter the whole time, lol.
 

yktind

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Great looking block right there!
And yes, I also felt that on the next day. I thought it might be a lingering of the medication because I went to sleep when I was tripping quite hard. I usually wake up semi-naked in a sort of limbo state =P
Can you relate? =P

The thing is they did sprout a little tap root... but then in the rockwool they haven't developed... they are still in there, but by now I'm not believing they'll come around...

Also the tv signal box is only a few degrees above room temperature. And it's been pretty cold over here. like 6 to 12ºC. The box might get to 18ºC if so much.

I'm quite sad that I haven't been able to launch any of my big NYPD seeds. Tough husks for the tap to come through...
I hope everything comes together, man. I am real interested to see what going straight to 12/12. I have a couple of seeds that I want to run but I don't want to dedicate a full grow to them when I already have a couple of winners that I am alternating i.e. Skywalker and Jolumbo.
 

vitamin_green_inc

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You should decarb before hand. Even if you do the crockpot method. Just get a cheesecloth and wrap the decarbed ganja in it and place it in the crockpot, then no real straining is neccesary as well!
Jad3 I have had that happen before, with Barneys Violator Kush seeds, they would all pop but only one got above ground and it was weak from the start
 

MuckyDucky

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I'ver always been confused when using a crock pot. If you look at a decarb chart it should do the job just in the crock pot, right? I don't think there is any need to "predecarb" your trim or buds in the oven. I just throw everything into my slow cooker and leave it on for a few hours. My edibles always come out stony. I wonder if it would be more potent with a predecarb. I still dont thinkj it would make a difference, especially sitting in the slow cooker for 12 hours.

THen again I am pretty baked and just drank a cup of coffee with Green Crack Hash mixed in.

Every time I make cookies I have to wait til the next day to try them because I eat the batter the whole time and couldn't tell you how potent 1 cookie is when I've been smoking and eating the batter the whole time, lol.
lol... yea, the crock recipe I tried to follow told me to turn the crock pop on high and use a thermometer, then when the temp got up to 280 deg turn it on low.... well mine never would get above 212 deg so I Googled crock pot temp and found that crock pots are all designed to simmer at 212 deg or so!!! IT was really a friggin messed up recipe!:hump: I did read somewhere else that temps of 180 deg and up will decarb so maybe it's done it's thing...
 

Jad3

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Quick baby update.

I love babies. Look at them, so full of promise. haha Can't wait to see them as stinky flowers!

Take a peak at my new watering system. It's the union of Hempy Bucket style with Shallow Water Culture extended reservoir using the air-pruning qualities of the airpots to create a massive dense root ball. At least that's my ideal theory, let's hope it works out. xD haha

I think it looks kinda neat.

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simisimis

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It does look very neat man, I love the effort you spend on a research before doing stuff and making it real afterwards ;)

One thing to note though. I was doing tests with upcanning. When flipping mature plant and upcanning, on the harvest day I noticed that rootball did not grew much bigger since the flip, that's cause plant goes into flowering phase. Now if you are doing 12/12 from seed, plant still needs to get to mature lvl before it will start flowering so the roots will be growing out, I just wonder when the plant will stop growing them and start concentrating on stretch and flowers, and I'm really interested to see what rootball you will at the harvest day.
so ueah, pulling up the chair :)
 
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