is it too early to start growing right now

If a clone is used to geting say 18 hours of light and you plant it outside where it is only getting 13 then it will likely start to bloom, from sensing that they day is getting shorter. Thats what i understand.....

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Mr. Doja said:

some guy at the dispensary was telling me its too early to grow outdoor because the plants will start flowering. i didnt really understand. can someone elaborate? they told me may 15 is the right time to start growing outdoor.

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I'm in grass valley and we always plant on June first. We clip and clone tomorrow actually. But some people say may 15th. If you do it now I'd put some extra light on them. But I'm hella ocd and if I didn't plant on June 1st I'd be a wreck all season. Well, Good luck, hope you grow some monsters this season

Yeah I've always heard June 1 myself. Allows the plant to veg for close to four weeks and then the days start getting shorter and it'll start a flower without stressing it. That being said I've got 20 in the ground right now. But only because I had to go gorilla. And didn't want to lose what I had started. But it's barely over 12 hours of daylight right now so it's definitely not optimal lighting for vegging a cannabis plant.

I did run some commercial brick seeds that was started around this time of the year. They turned out all right. They were super dank bud but were airy. It was my first grow so they didn't get the proper nutrition did they should have just used regular 10-10 -10 slow release fertilizer, looking back on it now they were screaming for Cal mag supplement. I don't think it'll stress them out that bad imo.

trippnface said:

the clones will flower; then go into reveg; decreasing potency;weight; vigor; etc.

seeds will probably never have an issue.

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Seeds can have an issue if you are too early. About half of the 30 odd plants from seed that I have in the ground are showing early flower. I topped them and I'm just going to wait for the days to get longer. Next year I might start a few in January and see if they would finish before the days got too long.

A lot of ppl say June 1st but unless you got one hell of a green thumb ur not gonna get much of a yield....as long as your days aren't getting shorter and u have13 or 14 hrs of daylight ...you can start them and they would t try to flower ..I meen they never do for me on the upper east coast ...I did just have a male throw sacks inside under 14 hrs of light but i haven't been adding time to my timer like outdoors would be doing with the sunlight...I went ahead and add some length to my lights on just to be careful. ..my plants were only a month old and started throwing sacks so I got worried

I just had a severe hail storm here a few hours ago. I think its probably too early for most places

Larry {the} Gardener said:

Seeds can have an issue if you are too early. About half of the 30 odd plants from seed that I have in the ground are showing early flower. I topped them and I'm just going to wait for the days to get longer. Next year I might start a few in January and see if they would finish before the days got too long.

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dang; when did you pop?

nothing in march should ever be an issue; i did some in feb with no prob; but i am closer to socal.

genetics play a big role as well i would assume

j johnson said:

I just had a severe hail storm here a few hours ago. I think its probably too early for most places

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crazy! hail in april?

Larry {the} Gardener said:

Seeds can have an issue if you are too early. About half of the 30 odd plants from seed that I have in the ground are showing early flower. I topped them and I'm just going to wait for the days to get longer. Next year I might start a few in January and see if they would finish before the days got too long.

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and do you mean they are flowering from the tops already; or are just showing sex?

trippnface said:

dang; when did you pop?

nothing in march should ever be an issue; i did some in feb with no prob; but i am closer to socal.

genetics play a big role as well i would assume

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I looked back through my pictures, just to be sure of the date. I put 6 CP1 seeds in soil 2-18-16.



I figure that was about a month too soon. When I popped them, I was kind of planning on using lights for three weeks or so, but that didn't pan out, so they were outside from the start. They were showing pre-flower more than actually trying to twist up. I topped all the older ones. We will see how they grow out of it.

Larry {the} Gardener said:

I looked back through my pictures, just to be sure of the date. I put 6 CP1 seeds in soil 2-18-16.

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I figure that was about a month too soon. When I popped them, I was kind of planning on using lights for three weeks or so, but that didn't pan out, so they were outside from the start. They were showing pre-flower more than actually trying to twist up. I topped all the older ones. We will see how they grow out of it.

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for sure. last year i did some feb starts as well ; and they were ok. i think march mid march starts are what i am going to continue doing now. i have even seen 1 guy up north say he can net 4-5 pounds planting first week of april; genetics and soil willing!

i put out early march and my ladies are flowering pretty hard from the top, they were reveg'd already, what exactly should i expect? i imagine i may have a short window to harvest a small crop before the day increases. will this harvest be at all decent?

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for sure. last year i did some feb starts as well ; and they were ok. i think march mid march starts are what i am going to continue doing now. i have even seen 1 guy up north say he can net 4-5 pounds planting first week of april; genetics and soil willing!

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How big did the ones you started in February get in comparison to the ones in mid March ?

The biggest plants I see are usually started in Feb or right at the beginning of march...buuut I have seen ppl who know what they r doing and have good living soil with plenty of direct light pull lbs from a single plant when they start in may

CA MTN MAN said:

How big did the ones you started in February get in comparison to the ones in mid March ?

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i don't think yield was greater at all; and if anything the march starts are healthier and finish earlier; older plants tend to take longer and are more susceptible to issues later on . if you were to have a clone copy and put one out in feb and one in march ( assuming they would not flower ) the march clone would always do better. younger plants are more vigorous and healthy.

CA MTN MAN said:

How big did the ones you started in February get in comparison to the ones in mid March ?

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got some info from these dudes
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=299683

I started a crop one year in 1981 march 3 and all the seeds I think came up and in augest the feds cut that crop.Man it sure as hell was doing good it even snowed on it and covered it up when it was 2 inches high and when the snow went off it had growed to 4 inches tall.the snow just inslated it where it was not that cold that year.It was a fulck and that was the onley year I ever planted that earley. that was one acer they got that year that we did not but they never got the other 10 that was in the good old days the crop was rated out it was not found by air.ky

Starting from seed, the plant itself will need 3-4 weeks before it's even sexually mature enough to flower. 3-4 weeks out from now, your gonna be well on your way to 13 hrs and 30 mins. I usually start my seeds outdoors first few weeks of march, high desert, no supplemental lighting.

The weather is kinda sketchy though still, so without a greenhouse I doubt I'd be able to start as soon as I do with all the rain and then the strong winds.

well; some of my march 10th seed starts are attempting to flower regardless of there being enough light lol. so honestly with these untested poly hybrids; god knows what will happen and you really just have to wing it. i moved them to an area that gets a bit more light; hopefully they veg through...but honestly they should not of started flowering regardless. certainly not keepers. i had one flower early that kept going last year though.. was ok for early smoke; but shit genetics for breeding or cloning for full season! killed 3 males as well; leaves my with 3 viable full season plants out of my 12 pack. ( about 3 never germed )

and that is why we buy multiple packs lol.

Gquebed said:

If a clone is used to geting say 18 hours of light and you plant it outside where it is only getting 13 then it will likely start to bloom, from sensing that they day is getting shorter. Thats what i understand.....

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You can get round light issues by doing a few runs of autos then put your photo period plants out mid June when the light times are more favourable...I'm doing the lots of autos staggered over three months then the photoperiod go out mid June...hope this helps and yes if the light cycle is too short the plants will auto flower and you will get my h reduced yeald...I've run photoperiod plants on a 12/12 from seed and the auto with reduced yeald...