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wyteboi

wyteboi

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malignant said:
im using a growzilla with a vortex 6in on each side. i brew guano tea, and have to feed every other day, a kalichakra and a chocolope in 12 gal pots yeah its a lot of light for 2 plants.. i had 4 chocolopes turn out male.
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you seem to be on your shit , but there is definatly such thing as too much light ! too much light will burn the chlorophyll out of the leaves. i used to be under the impression that as long as you keep it cool then there is no such thing as too much light ......... but i learned the hard way a few years later.






soil
 
malignant

malignant

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so far so good, but i dont have both lights on for 12hrs, its first the mh then the mh&hps then just the hps and switch back to mh for the last 2 hrs the mh is on whenever i have a big co2 dump
 
wyteboi

wyteboi

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malignant said:
so far so good, but i dont have both lights on for 12hrs, its first the mh then the mh&hps then just the hps and switch back to mh for the last 2 hrs the mh is on whenever i have a big co2 dump
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yea your on it !

keep up the good green !






soil
 
AssDan

AssDan

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I had some time last night to finish my light fixture. If you looked at the wiring on my last light post, forget it. I was wrong. I blame it on an unclear wiring diagram and not my ability to interpret it and put it to practical use.

My ballast had 4 wires going to the lights, two red and two blue. The original series wiring had the two blue wires on either side of one socket and two red wires on both sides of the other socket.

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My first iteration rewiring the light had me putting a red and a blue wire on each side of a socket. This did not work. Don't wire your lights like this. After finding a clearer wiring diagram online, I tried again. This time, I put two blue wires on each side of one socket and two red wires on each side of the other socket. This worked. I then put the second ballast in the fixture and the result was this.

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It's a bit messy, but it works. The lights are much brighter. I would expect this because they are being driven from twice the voltage they were before. It doesn't show up in this picture, but the lights are noticeably brighter. It's hard to take a picture of light.

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To summarize, I have taken two ballasts and put them into one light fixture with the result being two brighter bulbs. I have gone from 136 watts of light to 156 watts of light currently. I plan on having 204 watts of light when the HO 2 foot T5 ballast that I ordered comes in. I also ordered aquarium lights so that I can emit the spectrum of light that I want. I am still eagerly awaiting the e-mails that say my products have shipped so I can obsess over how far away they are at least twice a day. I'm hoping that my lights will be here before I burn out the bulbs I currently have. I don't think they were designed for this power consumption and I believe what I'm doing shortens their life. I will update when my products are here.
 
AssDan

AssDan

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I thought I would drop in what seems to be a weekly update on my plant. I rotated the plant so the normally shaded side is exposed to the light. As a result, I am able to see some nice flowers when I open the door. Boy are they nice and fragrant. These are much better looking flowers than I grew on my last plants. They look so nice and frosty. I want to chop them down now and smoke some sweet flowers, but my mind tells me it's too early, that I should let them grow until at least the end of the month. (I haven't smoked anything of quality sine August. I'm getting antsy.) Most of the trichomes are still clear. Last grow, I waited until they were cloudy and liked the results. Does anyone use a different method as to when to harvest?

By the way, I think I'm doing pretty good for a T5 grow.

Thanks.
 

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wyteboi

wyteboi

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AssDan said:
I thought I would drop in what seems to be a weekly update on my plant. I rotated the plant so the normally shaded side is exposed to the light. As a result, I am able to see some nice flowers when I open the door. Boy are they nice and fragrant. These are much better looking flowers than I grew on my last plants. They look so nice and frosty. I want to chop them down now and smoke some sweet flowers, but my mind tells me it's too early, that I should let them grow until at least the end of the month. (I haven't smoked anything of quality sine August. I'm getting antsy.) Most of the trichomes are still clear. Last grow, I waited until they were cloudy and liked the results. Does anyone use a different method as to when to harvest?

By the way, I think I'm doing pretty good for a T5 grow.

Thanks.
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frosty is the way to go , an the only true way to know when the pot is done.

i too believe the light bulbs you turbo'd will go out very fast , but who knows ............. let us know , an thanks for the proper wiring for this shit.



your baby is very nice with t5's. my favorite part is the health of your girl. nice an green !





soil
 
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watchhowIdoit

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AssDan said:
I had some time last night to finish my light fixture. If you looked at the wiring on my last light post, forget it. I was wrong. I blame it on an unclear wiring diagram and not my ability to interpret it and put it to practical use.

My ballast had 4 wires going to the lights, two red and two blue. The original series wiring had the two blue wires on either side of one socket and two red wires on both sides of the other socket.

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My first iteration rewiring the light had me putting a red and a blue wire on each side of a socket. This did not work. Don't wire your lights like this. After finding a clearer wiring diagram online, I tried again. This time, I put two blue wires on each side of one socket and two red wires on each side of the other socket. This worked. I then put the second ballast in the fixture and the result was this.

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It's a bit messy, but it works. The lights are much brighter. I would expect this because they are being driven from twice the voltage they were before. It doesn't show up in this picture, but the lights are noticeably brighter. It's hard to take a picture of light.

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To summarize, I have taken two ballasts and put them into one light fixture with the result being two brighter bulbs. I have gone from 136 watts of light to 156 watts of light currently. I plan on having 204 watts of light when the HO 2 foot T5 ballast that I ordered comes in. I also ordered aquarium lights so that I can emit the spectrum of light that I want. I am still eagerly awaiting the e-mails that say my products have shipped so I can obsess over how far away they are at least twice a day. I'm hoping that my lights will be here before I burn out the bulbs I currently have. I don't think they were designed for this power consumption and I believe what I'm doing shortens their life. I will update when my products are here.
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Nice job, glad it worked for you. And sorry I didnt post any clearer directions. Its been a few years since I come across this method and I just coud not find the original info I went by. Again well done and thanks for the follow through....
Oh ya, you are correct, it does shorten bulb life. I usually run bulbs for about a year before replacing. Just watch the ends as you normally would. Once the black area is about 1 1/2 long at each end its time to replace(just a general guideline).
 
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watchhowIdoit

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AssDan said:
I thought I would drop in what seems to be a weekly update on my plant. I rotated the plant so the normally shaded side is exposed to the light. As a result, I am able to see some nice flowers when I open the door. Boy are they nice and fragrant. These are much better looking flowers than I grew on my last plants. They look so nice and frosty. I want to chop them down now and smoke some sweet flowers, but my mind tells me it's too early, that I should let them grow until at least the end of the month. (I haven't smoked anything of quality sine August. I'm getting antsy.) Most of the trichomes are still clear. Last grow, I waited until they were cloudy and liked the results. Does anyone use a different method as to when to harvest?

By the way, I think I'm doing pretty good for a T5 grow.

Thanks.
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Those look great!!!!!!
 
AssDan

AssDan

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Thanks guys. Appreciate the input. I'm eagerly awaiting this plant to finish.

watchhowIdoit - I was going by the diagram on the ballast. The info you linked to is good for theory and principal. I didn't mean to imply that what you gave was bad.
 
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watchhowIdoit

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AssDan said:
Thanks guys. Appreciate the input. I'm eagerly awaiting this plant to finish.

watchhowIdoit - I was going by the diagram on the ballast. The info you linked to is good for theory and principal. I didn't mean to imply that what you gave was bad.
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No worries, I took nothing negative from you post. Again, a boss job there buster!!!!!
 
matthebrute

matthebrute

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PeyoteReligion said:
Some people foliar feed with nutes in the water but only before lights go off. If lights are on when you spray it can burn the leaves. Each drop is a little microscope.
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i think this theory has been proven to be incorect, the water will evap faster than it will heat up to the point of burning his leaves, but if you have proof im all ears :)

to the OP if someone hasnt suggested it yet, be ready to tie up your girl when the buds start getting bigger to avoid the weight breaking limbs as yours are a bit skinny.

as far as misting goes ONLY MIST LEAVES!! do not mist your buds this will set you up for bud rot if they do not get enough time to completly dry out. as far as misting them every day with regular water that is fine as long as you dont keep the plant saturated all day and give it enough time to dry out. although i dont see the benifits of misting with plain water but to his thier own.
 
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Afka

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matthebrute said:
i think this theory has been proven to be incorect, the water will evap faster than it will heat up to the point of burning his leaves, but if you have proof im all ears :)
It's not the water heating up, it's the spheres acting as lenses focusing light and BURNING the plant.



as far as misting goes ONLY MIST LEAVES!! do not mist your buds this will set you up for bud rot if they do not get enough time to completly dry out. as far as misting them every day with regular water that is fine as long as you dont keep the plant saturated all day and give it enough time to dry out. although i dont see the benifits of misting with plain water but to his thier own.
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^Why is it fine, but then you don't see the benefits?

I wouldn't listen to any of his advice, other than not misting buds. Obviously you can foliar feed them until a certain density, then he's right.
 
matthebrute

matthebrute

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Afka said:
^Why is it fine, but then you don't see the benefits?

I wouldn't listen to any of his advice, other than not misting buds. Obviously you can foliar feed them until a certain density, then he's right.
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whats wrong with my advice? its not going to hurt them......its not going to benifit them much either but it still isnt going to hurt them. my advice is fine if your smart enough to interpert it the correct way (wich is not hard by any means)
 
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Afka

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matthebrute said:
whats wrong with my advice? its not going to hurt them......its not going to benifit them much either but it still isnt going to hurt them. my advice is fine if your smart enough to interpert it the correct way (wich is not hard by any means)
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Why force the plant to go through endless adaptations to an ever varying environment?
100% RH, water physically on the plant limits transpiration, then the water dries up and probably goes back to 20% RH, stressing the plant to once attempt to transpire more now that there is no water cooling the leaves/impeding transpiration.

All in all, you'd be forcing adaptation to new environmental conditions repeatedly for no reason, which induce stress.
 
AssDan

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Advice taken. I stopped misting when mold was mentioned. Here's the thing I have a question about since we are talking about misting; marijuana is an outdoor plant that was around for probably millions of years before humans cultivated it for their purposes, why can't it be wet for a little bit? I mean, it rains outside a lot on my patch of the globe and the sun comes out when leaves of plants have water on them. My vegetable garden grew great last year in these conditions. Maybe I sound a little ignorant or insensitive when I type about this, but this plant, like many others, can overcome less than ideal circumstances. It can withstand high winds, hard rain, small animal encounters (probably), pests (I always assumed THC was their defense mechanism) etc. Hell, if you cut a branch off and put it in dirt, you have a new plant.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm weary of advice of that would have you be too careful about things that would happen to it if it were outside and free. Like a daughter though, it will not be having sex in my house.

Thanks for the advice guys. I really appreciate your input even if you can't agree amongst yourselves.
 
wyteboi

wyteboi

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matthebrute said:
i think this theory has been proven to be incorect, the water will evap faster than it will heat up to the point of burning his leaves, but if you have proof im all ears :)
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100% correct ..... in all my years i have never ever seen "water burn" ..... i guess its possible if there is no circulation at all.


Afka said:
Why force the plant to go through endless adaptations to an ever varying environment?
100% RH, water physically on the plant limits transpiration, then the water dries up and probably goes back to 20% RH, stressing the plant to once attempt to transpire more now that there is no water cooling the leaves/impeding transpiration.
All in all, you'd be forcing adaptation to new environmental conditions repeatedly for no reason, which induce stress.
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here is a decent reason......... i agree about stress , but that is very very lil stress an nothin to worry about.
AssDan said:
why can't it be wet for a little bit? I mean, it rains outside a lot on my patch of the globe and the sun comes out when leaves of plants have water on them. My vegetable garden grew great last year in these conditions. Maybe I sound a little ignorant or insensitive when I type about this, but this plant, like many others, can overcome less than ideal circumstances. It can withstand high winds, hard rain, small animal encounters (probably), pests (I always assumed THC was their defense mechanism) etc. Hell, if you cut a branch off and put it in dirt, you have a new plant.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm weary of advice of that would have you be too careful about things that would happen to it if it were outside and free. Like a daughter though, it will not be having sex in my house.
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