I grow Shrooms :)

hemlockstones

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Do you think i can get the tip of the needle red hot with a candle, or would i just be wasting my time? Also how do you know when you have 100% colonization? Also how many pf cakes can I do with 1 syringe?I'm Looking into starting a pf grow, once my weed grows up a little bit:mrgreen:.
i flame sterilize the tip of my needle inbetween jars usually, and then wipe any soot off with a gauze pad soaked in alcohol...

once done.. i give them another week to make sure, they might even start pinning in the jars... good sign. then i take em out... wash any piss off (yellow stuff that might show up in the jars during colonization) and put em in a pot with spring water for 24 hours... then pull em out.. roll em in new verm and place in a tub that will hold humidity.. few inches of wet perlite in the bottom to maintain high humidity and then mist the cakes 3-4 times a day till you see pins.. then stop misting the cakes.. just mist the walls.
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hemlockstones

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so pretty much you make a colony of mycelium in the liquid culture, and you can preserve that culture for further extraction and inoculation?:-|

if im right it sounds like a fucking deal.
you're right! put em in a frig to slow growth (so they dont get TOO colonized) not only can one syringe make many LC's but LC's can easily make more LC's... so you dont have to run out of solution. not to mention it speeds up growth.
 

hemlockstones

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THe main problem im having is choosing a species to grow. :blsmoke:

I just took shrooms yesterday for my first time. some golden teachers.


wut should i try out?
i have had fun with cambodian, alacabenzi, and south american most recently, all showed very aggresive growth... cant really compare trips... sorry to say but most mushrooms give me the same kind of trip but i will say they all pack a punch
 

Tokesalot

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you're right! put em in a frig to slow growth (so they dont get TOO colonized) not only can one syringe make many LC's but LC's can easily make more LC's... so you dont have to run out of solution. not to mention it speeds up growth.
awesome:mrgreen:

Gonna make a trip to Wal Mart now. Just watched tons of vids on DIY Terrariums and BRF cakes. so fucking easy:blsmoke:
 

hemlockstones

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glad to see your enthusiasm! good luck! post any questions

this might help people who are thinking of growing bulk

Amazon.com: Misco Home and Garden 3&#45;Shelf Greenhouse: Kitchen & Dining

has 3 shelves, dont need all that head room (17"/shelf) could probly modify it to 5 shelves for cakes... for 4 for casings.... fit about 24 cakes on each shelf (each cake taking up a 4.5"x4.5" square) soo about 120 cakes fruiting in this bad boy.

you could maintain with a cool mist or ultrasonic humidifier on a timer, or use a tray on each shelf with a layer of perlite, or mist the walls a lot.. or all.. whatever.
normally people i have seen use a cat litter pan in the bottom or some equivilant to catch water that runs down the jacket... or put it in a shallow rubbermade

$35 on devilcorp (not sure if that is a real place, dont click on it, probly porn.... ok ... go ahead and click on it)

120 cakes x 4g = 480g dry = 17ounces = 1lb + dry every flush
(if you just use the 3 shelves its still 10oz)

thats assuming u use the cake method... wouldnt hurt to learn how to do casings :-) or harness some straw logs on each shelf
this is what i plan to do once i pick it back up... tubs take up too much toom, pain in the ass to stack and unstack for misting/checkups

so assuming you only let the jars go one flush and always have jars in incubation you could get 1-2 flushes a month with the same cakes or new cakes so thats 34 ounces a month?

its not really hard to mix and pack all those jars... just get high and you and a lab partner can really get these things done... its work but get the fuck over it, nothing's easy
same goes for inoculation... the only thing that will take some significant patience... again.. grab a lab partner to hand you what you might need (so your hands arent grabbing all over the place, you will touch shit and not even realize it)
probly take an hour or so to do all those jars but you will only need to do this 1-2 a month or of course you could do them in smaller batches every weekend and have a REAL continual harvest... but thats only if you want to be picking mushrooms every day

the other thing that will take time... harvesting :-) of course you could go the lazy way and do them all at once but its best to really keep and eye on it and pick in singles or groups as they reach the right time (right before the veil breaks)

so there you go .. how to grow POUNDS of dry mushrooms a month
(i know.. sounds IMPOSSIBLE!!!)
all in a space of about 1.5ft x 2.25ft x 4ft tall
(not including incubators)

Jr.
 

HoLE

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Fed Ex me some nowstop,,,I'm havin spaghetti tonight,,prolly go realllllll good in the sauce:hump::mrgreen:

Keep on Growin

HoLE
 

themoose

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thanks alot so its about 1cc per jar? And the mycellium will be hard not to notice(unless i get a contamination)?
you can do about 10-12 jars with one syringe.

you will know you have 100% colonization when white mycellium is covering the substrate 100% inside the jar.
 

vertise

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honestly depends on how fast you want them to colonize your jars. More spores quicker it will colonize. tech you could do 1 cc but it all varies on your desired speed. Also how your syringe looks. if you have a wimpy syringe 1cc will take a while to spread. Go to Shroomery.org its the rollitup of shrooms
 

hemlockstones

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when you mix the jars they will be a darker shade of brown, a week after inoculation you should have some cotton like "whisps" near each injection point the little white spots will get bigger, thicker, and start spreading twards the other white spots... while it grows it should either reassemble pure wite cotton fluff with some "veins" of white noticable. this growth is called "rizomorphic" and is the most rizomorphic jars will usually colonize faster and end up being healthier

any black, brown, green, dark yellow is more than likely contam. some yellow spotting is normal on the outside of the cake against the jar wall... this is whats refered to as mycelium piss.. whats left over as your mycelium metabolises the brown rice and water.
and can be more evident in the later stages of colonization... no worries though.. it isnt contam! if left in the jars too long then the stale air can cause cobweb mold...

good luck!
Jr.


EDIT-
If you have a jar you think is contam'd pull it from the incubartor or batch as soon as you notice... isolate for a few days and draw a circle on the jar with a sharpie on the spots u are concerned about... watch the spot(s) for a day or so and it will be pretty obvious if that spot is hurting or helping the cake... also u can shake lightly to circulate air and sniff... anything but a fresh mushroom smell is bad. if you DO have a contam... dont open it in your house! mold spores will go everywhere... open em outside and rinse with a hose if you can or just run through the dishwasher as soon as possible. peace
 

hemlockstones

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honestly depends on how fast you want them to colonize your jars. More spores quicker it will colonize. tech you could do 1 cc but it all varies on your desired speed. Also how your syringe looks. if you have a wimpy syringe 1cc will take a while to spread. Go to Shroomery.org its the rollitup of shrooms
if you use too much spore solution you will over saturate the cake with water... you do not need the extra water ... the extra spores are ok but in the end only the genetics from ONE spore will win out accross the cake (why its impossible to grow 2 diff strains on one cake)

if the moisture content of the jar is too high you will be more likely to get contams. you want the verm inside the jar at feild capacity, not over.

i have always used 1-2 cc per jar and done fine.. dont waste your spores thinking you will speed it up, the spores will not race each other for your benefit... each jar should have 4 holes in the top.. put .25cc in each one
the more HOLES the faster if will colonize... but i have found 4 to be fine, too many and you increase the risk of contam

EDIT
ALSO, the excess water will be obsorbed into the DRY vermiculite filter on top of the cake layer... you need this layer on top to stay dry... it is your filter for gas exchange and if it gets wet....welll it wont be a filter anymore!?
 

nowstopwhining

Too many brownies
if you use too much spore solution you will over saturate the cake with water... you do not need the extra water ... the extra spores are ok but in the end only the genetics from ONE spore will win out accross the cake (why its impossible to grow 2 diff strains on one cake)

if the moisture content of the jar is too high you will be more likely to get contams. you want the verm inside the jar at feild capacity, not over.

i have always used 1-2 cc per jar and done fine.. dont waste your spores thinking you will speed it up, the spores will not race each other for your benefit... each jar should have 4 holes in the top.. put .25cc in each one
the more HOLES the faster if will colonize... but i have found 4 to be fine, too many and you increase the risk of contam
perfectly said! That is why I have 4 holes in every jar and use .25cc's per jar.

I was going to write most of that myself but I hurt my back really badly yesterday and ive been taking oxy's since it happened.

I can barely fucking walk my back hurts so bad...even with the damn pain killers.
 

hemlockstones

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perfectly said! That is why I have 4 holes in every jar and use .25cc's per jar.

I was going to write most of that myself but I hurt my back really badly yesterday and ive been taking oxy's since it happened.

I can barely fucking walk my back hurts so bad...even with the damn pain killers.
chirst man... hope you get to feelin better!

p.s. didnt mean to jack your thread or anything :-\!
 

nowstopwhining

Too many brownies
chirst man... hope you get to feelin better!

p.s. didnt mean to jack your thread or anything :-\!
thanks man...it feels fucking terrible. I couldnt even sleep last night...even after taking an oxy and drinking a couple beers.

Dont worry you didnt jack my thread. as long as we are still on the topic of shrooms! :mrgreen::blsmoke:
 

Tokesalot

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thanks man...it feels fucking terrible. I couldnt even sleep last night...even after taking an oxy and drinking a couple beers.

Dont worry you didnt jack my thread. as long as we are still on the topic of shrooms! :mrgreen::blsmoke:
'word up to that, i just had fucking oblation on 6 nerves. OUCH MAN:cry:


Smoke reef. and grill with me.
 
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