How to delineate growing experience from the typicall 2 yr "master"

Lucius Vorenus

Well-Known Member
I have family in the industry in CO, that is where i started when I was young, it's been tough there recently... What CO scene do you hail from?

Importing is a stupid way to F your business. Those fools will have larger attorney bills than any profit they garner, Federal Case... They can go right ahead and sink themselves...
Why would I import something like that outdoor, when I could legally obtain a LB of dank from my legit growers for not much more than your stated price. Yes, if its your facility and you are paying your growers by harvested weight, the costs should be extremely lucrative. In other states, unlike AZ, Caregivers can sell to dispensaries, those are the people getting paid 3500 a lb. If you are an employee of a dispensary and have not invested any of your own money, I do not imagine you getting paid at that rate. ESP. If all the equipment and electricity are provided...You cannot compare compassion clubs to dispensaries because there is absolutely no oversight from the state.

Not to mention there is probably a dossier on all of the exisitng CC and associated bank accounts. Cases don't get built overnight.
Lets hear it for the guy who can acquire Pounds of Indoor in AZ for $1000! Seriously man we need to hang out.
 

Chronicseeker

New Member
I'm not stoned.
I have an insurance guy that does grow coverage.
They will insure the facility but your plants cannot be insured... NO WAY.
Insurance companies are federally regulated. Same reason most banks won't touch a dispensaries money.
So if my grower disappears, technically I can call insurance and say, "I have all this product that is going to die, what's it worth."
Then the insurance company pays out your claim.....

That would be a fool proof scheme to cover inexperienced growers mishaps but I do believe it to be the case.
i will call my insurance rep and see what they say...

FYI most homeowners policies do not want to cover homes if they know growing is going on....
 

missnu

Well-Known Member
All I know is that sometimes I will see posts where someone is like I am growing for a dispensary, but what is wrong with these plants, and they are all terrible newb grown monstrosities...If I went to a place with a store front and paid a lot of money for "top-shelf" pot and got some horribly grown grossness by someone who had no idea what they were doing I would be pissed!
 

personified

Active Member
Sorry! Maybe it was your accent. You all look alike on line! :) I may be stone also if I believed in that sort of thing!
 

Chronicseeker

New Member
Lets hear it for the guy who can acquire Pounds of Indoor in AZ for $1000! Seriously man we need to hang out.
Once again LV pulling numbers and info out of thin air... Nobody said $1000 a P, but I have been sitting at the table when $1500/lb has been proposed for a fully outfitted AZ facility.

So that is less than a half of your outdoor, from legit growers with samples.....
Oh yeah and legally obtained...

900 clones, no I'm not Bill Hayes
He must have called you on your bs too I guess..
I do not interpret things into my own laws and then try to justify them to the state...
Thats what a legal team is for.
Facts can be offensive.
Sorry to burst your connection bubble..
 

KAL EL

Well-Known Member
They will insure the facility but your plants cannot be insured... NO WAY.
Insurance companies are federally regulated. Same reason most banks won't touch a dispensaries money.
So if my grower disappears, technically I can call insurance and say, "I have all this product that is going to die, what's it worth."
Then the insurance company pays out your claim.....

That would be a fool proof scheme to cover inexperienced growers mishaps but I do believe it to be the case.
i will call my insurance rep and see what they say...

FYI most homeowners policies do not want to cover homes if they know growing is going on....
He covers grows. He has asked me the values of plants in various stages, cuz he insures them.
You don't need feds to underwrite insurance coverage.
 

BeaverHuntr

Well-Known Member
They will insure the facility but your plants cannot be insured... NO WAY.
Insurance companies are federally regulated. Same reason most banks won't touch a dispensaries money.
So if my grower disappears, technically I can call insurance and say, "I have all this product that is going to die, what's it worth."
Then the insurance company pays out your claim.....

That would be a fool proof scheme to cover inexperienced growers mishaps but I do believe it to be the case.
i will call my insurance rep and see what they say...

FYI most homeowners policies do not want to cover homes if they know growing is going on....
Like any smart business owner hopefully you have a apprentice, you're the guy who made the thread of "Dispensary Agents Positions" you listed a bunch of positions for " growers" hopefully one of those positions has someone learning from the head grower.
 

personified

Active Member
All I know is that sometimes I will see posts where someone is like I am growing for a dispensary, but what is wrong with these plants, and they are all terrible newb grown monstrosities...If I went to a place with a store front and paid a lot of money for "top-shelf" pot and got some horribly grown grossness by someone who had no idea what they were doing I would be pissed!

Shit I am all ready seeing it at the clubs. Crap put out to fast especially the hydro. I ask about trichs they look at you like your crazy they are getting it from some other grow so they can not even tell you how it was harvested let alone how it was grown.

Harsh weed from not flushing correctly as well as quick curing just to name two.

Sure it is the name of the strain but not always the quality. So this is my point with pics you can show me anything but until you prove it. Your on Double Secret Probation until I smoke it!!
 

BeaverHuntr

Well-Known Member
Shit I am all ready seeing it at the clubs. Crap put out to fast especially the hydro. I ask about trichs they look at you like your crazy they are getting it from some other grow so they can not even tell you how it was harvested let alone how it was grown.

Harsh weed from not flushing correctly as well as quick curing just to name two.

Sure it is the name of the strain but not always the quality. So this is my point with pics you can show me anything but until you prove it. Your on Double Secret Probation until I smoke it!!
This is pretty much true the clubs put out some wack shit and the one club that has solid genetics properly grown and cured charges 70 bucks a 1/8.. What do you guys expect though AZ is new to this game give it some time and some solid growers will be putting out good shit I know a few growers who post in this thread who can do that just takes time. Like any one who has ever started a or ran a real legitimate business knows that the first year is always slow and you take a loss but after that things pick up and the fun starts.
 

Chronicseeker

New Member
He covers grows. He has asked me the values of plants in various stages, cuz he insures them.
You don't need feds to underwrite insurance coverage.
Well look at it this way. The strains you bring to a dispensary can not be protected in anyway under a legal contract, sadly... Same would most likely go for grow. Where do you think insurance gets the money to pay out on a claim, federally insured bank accounts. They have to record everything. Maybe this guy has his own insurance company backed by some private funds because that is the only conceivable way to cover plants... Would you list The White and place a value on it, I don't understand. How can you determine fair value for an illegal object?
 

Lucius Vorenus

Well-Known Member
Once again LV pulling numbers and info out of thin air... Nobody said $1000 a P, but I have been sitting at the table when $1500/lb has been proposed for a fully outfitted AZ facility.

So that is less than a half of your outdoor, from legit growers with samples.....
Oh yeah and legally obtained...

900 clones, no I'm not Bill Hayes
He must have called you on your bs too I guess..
I do not interpret things into my own laws and then try to justify them to the state...
Facts can be offensive.
Sorry to burst your connection bubble..
LOL....ok man. Thanks for clarifying that. $1500lb sounds very reasonable.

:fire:
 

YThor

Well-Known Member
Many of the current breeders in the US are creating new strains with specific ailments in mind. In Israel a new strain just came out, Avidekel, almost no THC content and 15% CBD. In laymen terms that means more medicinal qualities and less of a euphoric high..
This is surprisingly easy to do, provided one can produce enough plants in large numbers to make selective breeding an effective proposition. With the federal limits being what they are, this makes it much tougher in America. If one could produce (say) 10,000 plants and select the plants with the correct phenotypes (good disease resistance, good productivity, high CBD:THC ratio, etc.), it would only take a few generations to produce some excellent plants. With only 100 plants, it takes considerably longer.

Anyway- towards these ends, I offer free CBD quantification by GC.
 

personified

Active Member
High CDB and Low THC is called Hemp!! Some of the best medicine around I am sure is on the side of the roads at Ft Riley Ks were we used to grow hemp for rope. Having been there and smoked it....it taste like swag weed and does not get you high.
 

fatboyOGOF

Well-Known Member
Lmao well looks like I got you both beat! Ha ha I hope my samples will be appreciated ;)
i'm looking forward to the dispensaries opening just to see how my stuff compares.

for a long time, i've only smoked my reefer. i have nothing to compare it to. i think i've got some pretty good genetics and i'd be bummed if it turns out mine medicine is just so so.

then again, my stuff gets me right where i like to be, so i guess it can't be too bad.

most of my genetics are sativa dominant and should go to 70 plus days but i usually cut them around 60 - 65 days.

i have the patience of a 12 year old. :)
 

Chronicseeker

New Member
High CDB and Low THC is called Hemp!! Some of the best medicine around I am sure is on the side of the roads at Ft Riley Ks were we used to grow hemp for rope. Having been there and smoked it....it taste like swag weed and does not get you high.
The Avidekel strain is something new, developed over multiple years by Israeli researchers. The point of this strain is to remove the euphoric sensation and focus purely on medicinal value. Google it and translate the website, it is actually supposed to by a quality herb not garbage/swag. I'm not sure but I think the program that helped formulate this strain in Gov operated. USA has Federal grow facilities too, just apply for a permit, lol.
 

greywind

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No I am not rasta. What posts did you read? I am a five two 260 white chubby guy with messy red hair. Greenhouse seeds only has weak strains. Their stuff is not very good. Except the slh but I have never grown that out but I heard from others whom have that it is alright. Funny how we all know their shit is crap but they cleared something like 20 mil on seeds alone last year.
Are you sure you're not a Rasta? You looked more Rastafarian than ginger to me... lol!
 

KAL EL

Well-Known Member
OK, I called and asked him about insurance.
He covers grows from acts of god and raids.
He doesn't cover shitty growers.

If you have questions, call him.
Doug Banfelder
Commercial Insurance Specialist
Premier Southwest Insurance Group
14500 N Northsight Blvd Ste 101
Scottsdale AZ 85260
PH 480-315-9051
 

Lucius Vorenus

Well-Known Member
OK, I called and asked him about insurance.
He covers grows from acts of god and raids.
He doesn't cover shitty growers.

If you have questions, call him.
Doug Banfelder
Commercial Insurance Specialist
Premier Southwest Insurance Group
14500 N Northsight Blvd Ste 101
Scottsdale AZ 85260
PH 480-315-9051
Do NOT let that guy know where your grows are located. Be safe guys. Try getting that guy to even smoke a joint with you.
 
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