how much longer till my girls finish the seedlings stage?

they are about 1 week from germ now, they have their cotyledons and first set of leaves, heres a pic. now the second pic us them also just a diff angle

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about 6 months

i consider the end of seedling stage and beginning of veg stage at about 3 nodes. it's a debatable subject but i use the following factor; when the plant no longer uses cotyledons for energy and begins using soil for food it is in the veg stage.

I see, and based on mine being done with its first node, starting its second what do you think? maybe a week left till it begins veg ? and these are healthy seedlings even though they are getting their lean on ?

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im curious because ive never had seedlings grow like that in all my grows

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at this rate i wanna guess around days 28-35, maybe a little longer. i consider start of veg when the stem starts peeling, usually after 5 sets. i use an actual beginning sign of the veg growth, cause time is worthless, as environmental factors can really slow growth. i only worry about timetable during flower when it actually matters. growing takes patience.

when they start to grow considerably faster in a few days than they grew in previous weeks
they will grow more from day 14 to day 21 than they grew in the first 14 days
from day 21 to day 28 they will grow more than they did in the first 21 days
more than double in size in a week

so i would say veg is around 21 days onward for me

this I know, my main concern is why, with an HID light straight above them, are they growing crooked like that?

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skunkd0c said:

so i would say veg is around 21 days onward for me

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same for me day 21-23

desolation88 said:

this I know, my main concern is why, with an HID light straight above them, are they growing crooked like that?

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humidity? how far is the light, what wattage, and do you have a small fan making them sway lightly(you should)

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this I know, my main concern is why, with an HID light straight above them, are they growing crooked like that?

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some will be more spindly than others, it helps to get them under the light as soon as the tap root is about 1cm
they will straighten up when the stem develops, you can help support them with matchsticks or cocktail sticks etc

yes I have a small fan, RH is running 30-40% room temp during lights on is 81, lights off is around 66-69

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yes I have a small fan, RH is running 30-40% room temp during lights on is 81, lights off is around 66-69

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In my limited experience that RH is too low for a plant at that stage of life. I ran around %60 during the seedling phase. Got a humidifier you can bust out?

all ive got is a vicks steam vaporizer, will that work? heres a link to it http://m.target.com/p/vicks-vaporizer-with-night-light-white-and-blue/-/A-10403767?ref=tgt_adv_XSG10001&AFID=google_pla_df&LNM=10403767&CPNG=Appliances&kpid=10403767&LID=3pgs&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=10403767&kpid=10403767&gclid=Cj0KEQiA_ZOlBRD64c7-gOzvrP0BEiQAAYBnd68MvqToJnVNU9s9vysGO9tWVhk_nsBosotM4CBadGIaAiaM8P8HAQ

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I've had seedlings do fine in super low humidity but just had to make sure there wasn't much airflow to desiccate them.

You can certainly adapt to different circumstances, I'm really just talking about optimal conditions. I wouldn't run seedlings under %50 RH unless I had no way to fix it. A simple humidifier will solve it. Preferable an ultrasonic one as it won't raise the temps in your space.

That humidifier should at least help, give it time to work and don't put it spitting out on electronics like lights and stuff.

how long should I run one ? I found one at the local walmart for 26.99

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ill just wait till tomorrow, and bring one home from walmart and use it. cuz the vics one puts out a lot of steam and I dont want ro blow my 400w ballast

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Do you plant on topping it? A bunch of people say that you shouldn't but in my experience, it works really well.