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Hesi Nutrient review/grow advice (soil not hydro)

Discussion in 'Nutrients' started by bigbud89, Nov 17, 2011.

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    Heavybloomer

    Heavybloomer New Member

    Doc who, I'm just starting this hesi treatment. Should I grossly drop the dosage amount from what they suggesting in the schedule? Because after one feeding of the recommended dose all of my little ladies are curling up an scaring me a bit
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    Whats the media?
    How old are the plants?
    What are your concentrations?

    How long sense the feeding?
    what size pots if soil?
    What is the soil?
    How long have they been in this soil?

    I figured out that you can drop the roots and super vit for Kelp extract....most likely not your problem though.

    I always used their feed chart and had no real problems..I did use less roots as you read above....This was some time ago when I was still using some synthetics in runs...I've gone back to all organic and dropped all synthetic and all hydro too....BUT.....

    If you answer my questions, I can get you through it no problem!
    I've used Hesi for a while and many others I tested too.....
    The 2 best out there are Hesi and Canna....as far as liquid synthetic nutes go.

    I'll be around

    Doc
     
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    Heavybloomer

    Heavybloomer New Member

    I'm kinda jumpin in on a buddy's current grow and everyone was kinda mag deprived when I got there, so for the past week I've been nursing them back to health and changing his water supply to an ro supply. As far as media the soil they're hanging out in rite now is God knows what..... I'm getting ready to transplant everyone into a perlite, spahnam moss, worm casting, bat guano, Epsom salt, blood meal and lime mixture tomorrow. My reasoning for this is just so I know where everyone stands with the soil. And also because some of the little guys are still in 6in pots an I feel they may be getting a little root bound. I'm kinda leaning towards nut burn from what the leaves on the little guys (6-8 in tall) are telling me. They are curling and turning upwards a little. The other plants are about 18 in in height and aren't showing as much as the same symptoms. Now they have only had one feeding thus far which was yesterday. I've decided to go back to my regular feeding schedule of the basic feed water feed water plan at 200ml per. Anything that you could suggest would be appreciated
     
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    gbghaze

    gbghaze Member

    I decided to try hesi bloom this grow but they look pretty hungry,i feed them every other watering becuse thats what i did with previus nutes.
    Is the feeding chart on the bottle meant to be used every watering or every other like ive done before?
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    Every watering. Hesi has a video out and shows how they water/feed every day.

    I have been doing the metered amount of water/feed everyday for many, many years.....One big reason I went Hesi.....They do it my way.
    Be sure to use the P/K booster as directed too....
     
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    gbghaze

    gbghaze Member

    Thanks for conforming it,they realy look underfed,glad im doing a perpetual right now so its not the hole growroom.
    The buds looks pretty good,way better than i deserve....amazing how much you can fuck up and still get a decent harvest :-)
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    I'll give you some advise and save you some money on the line too.

    Drop the "ROOTS" and the "Super Vit".

    Simply use Kelp extract at 5ml per gallon instead. Delivers the same shit - better. For far less then they charge for the other two!
     
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    AlexHarryy

    AlexHarryy Member

    There is no Botanicare Sweet on our market :(, what do you suggest to replace it from Canna, R.A.N. , RasTea, GHE, Plagron, GrowTechnology, Biobizz, Bio Nova?
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member


    Take 8 TBL of Epsom Salts.
    1.5 tsp of Dark Brown sugar
    Mix to dissolve in 1 gallon of RO water. (you might boil it in 4 cups of water and add 12 more to cool it and pour into an Opaque jug).

    That is home made Sweet Raw and it'll cost you less then a US dollar to make a gallon.
     
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    AlexHarryy

    AlexHarryy Member

    NICE tnx a lot! Is it ok to use with topfed DWC hydro?
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    Sure!
     
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    AlexHarryy

    AlexHarryy Member

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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

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    AlexHarryy

    AlexHarryy Member

    You are the best! Thanks a lot!!!
     
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    AlexHarryy

    AlexHarryy Member

    BTW do you use something like ANs Sensizym or Canna's Rhizotonic in your feeding or does it even needed?
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    Nope. In any run with synthetic's. I don't use anything but The KIND base and bloom and my 2 homemade supplements. They do get a shot of basic bio tea (not a nute tea) at one month into bloom.
    There are enough carbs in my feed to keep the bio's alive enough...
     
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    Baiyun7

    Baiyun7 Member

    Doc, First time join in the forum and ur every single detail explanation will help my next grow. Veg/Flower tea and the hesi nutes. Cause I spent way too much on the flora 3 color series, Big Bud, Bud candy those AN nutes. right now i running Botanicare line nutes and Flower stackers on my Diamond OG strain and they look way better the folra series. I have just purchased some of the Hesi nutes.If i ran into problem.I will ask u for help. BTW, I plant on soil.
     
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    Baiyun7

    Baiyun7 Member

    Hi Doc,
    should u have time to review the listing ingr. below.

    Veg Brew

    1 cup Earth Worm Castings (1-0-0)

    1/3 cup Mexican Bat Guano (Nitrogen rich guano) (8-1-1)

    1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (all around rich guano **BE CAREFUL**) (12-11-2)

    1/2 cup Alfalfa meal (2.5-0.5-2.5)

    5 TBS Black Strap Molasses

    5 TBS Liquid Kelp Extract (0-0-1)


    Is it too much Nitrogen on this veg brew for 5 gallons soil pot? And the girls are 2 feet tall.




    Bloom Brew

    1 cup Earth Worm Castings (1-0-0)

    1/3 cup Jamaican or Indonesian Bat Guano (Phosphorus rich guano) (0-10-0)

    1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (all around rich guano **BE CAREFUL**) (12-11-2)

    1/2 cup Alfalfa meal (2.5-0.5-2.5)

    5 TBS Black Strap Molasses

    5 TBS Liquid Kelp Extract (0-0-1)


    I think going into flower this Flower brew should ok for 4 foot tall girls, right?
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    If your following the charting, you should be golden..
    How big are the plants?
    Age?

    Media is?

    Generally I use a 30 day soil....In solo's it last a few weeks and you start to feed then, and as you up pot it may take a cpl weeks before you need to feed....
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member


    If I have the HESI.....I wouldn't run any of that tea! Period!

    Those teas will give the plant a serious case of P tox - FAST! Skip them and follow the Hesi Charting...
     

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